Yea sure whatever fantasy you live in. Coach Geez is pretty knowledgeable but you are just flapping your gums.
Anybody believe that they can still salvage something here…
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We have had maybe three seasons that were decent from a historical perspective. The two that I am good with was 2002 and 2012. I still believe we would have beat Kentucky in Atlanta in the sweet sixteen in 2012 if Zeller and Oladipo could have stayed out of foul trouble. From my biased seat there were definitely a couple questionable fouls called on but that is part of the game.
Injuries are also part of the game and May's in 1975 and Henderson in 1993 were the worst.
The net has only been used a few years and our season has been bad on all accounts. This team is not going anywhere and as I have said before I am biased towards Woodson because of what he laid on the line physically to lead the 1979-80 to a Big Ten Championship on March 2, 1980,
over Ohio State.
I will listen to concerns raised by a few analysts and former IU players but not the majority of fans on this page. I will always support IU in all sports that is just part of my DNA but can also like you recognize serious flaws. The two programs that are currently nationally consistent at IU are men's soccer and both swimming programs.
Yea, ‘02 was obviously great, and agree on ‘12. Cody outplayed Anthony Davis and a few less fouls and UK not being lights out shooting and who knows. Frankly the committee putting us in the game was BS — they couldn’t help but setup the drama of the rematch. That IU team was forged in rough seasons and really outperformed.
I would love for IU to be very good. We have it all — big NIL, big budget from AD, amazing home court, amazing fans that travel (NYC and ATL this year were great), good facilities, and not that anyone cares, history. Few schools offer all these advantages.
We’ve struggled with coaches, probably because our athletic dept is bad and it’s a political process that might involve the President or former players.
The in season analysis is entertainment, all that matters is wins/losses. Not sure Dolson does this, but any competent leader should sit down and agree to goals with the coach (and key people like the President). I’m sure Dolson and Woody would have expected to be improving in Yr 3 with a path to be “elite” given all our resources. That would be top-25 at least and threatening top-10. We have top-5 NIL and budget, we can be good.
Instead it’s the opposite. Year 3 Net around 90, KenPom around 90, not close to field of 68. The goals from the start are completely missed. Therefore, give someone else a chance. We pay the big $4M+ salary for results.
Turnarounds don’t have to take long. Thad inherited a terrible Butler team with 10% the resources of IU, year 2 he’s got road wins at #11 Marquette and #13 Creighton and a chance to make the tourney. That’s coaching.
Maybe I’m wrong. It doesn’t matter. You like IU, and I somehow still like IU, we have different views on what’s best and that’s fine. It’s fun to talk about.
Please forgive me for being grossly naive.
But a first year coach with at least 10 new players just beat our Phi Beta Kappa coach by 14.
Apparently some learn quicker than others.
You’re a dumbass. Every coach, no matter how successful, is learning about their team every day, win or lose.
Now carry on with your tantrum.
"But a first year coach with at least 10 new players just beat our Phi Beta Kappa coach by 14."
And teams with good coaches improve as the season progresses.
Just too bad our coach has a severe learning disability.
Keep defending this shit show and the ringmaster and I'll continue with my tantrum.
PENN STATE. F@cking Penn state.
I’m not defending shit. I’m not even talking about Indiana specifically. Change your diaper and get a clean pacifier. Jesus.
You'll have to ask mac & cheese about that, he's the expert on learning curves.
Ha, yea.
In year 2, Thad took a terrible Butler team with 10% of the resources of IU and he has them with four Quad 1 wins (including #11 and #13 on the road) and they have a shot at the tourney.
Turnarounds happen quickly, especially with the portal.
After a good night's sleep he'll wake up tomorrow morning and have a eureka moment.But CMW will get it figured out!
The thing is: we are just 1 maybe 2 capable player away from being a decent team. This was doomed to fail this summer.
What a waste of a frontcourt.
At this point I am not so sure.
This team does NOTHING well, nothing to hang their hat on, no team identity.
Offense is offensive.
Defense is almost non-existent most of the time.
Rebounding is spotty at best.
Shooting has been talked ad nauseam.
FT shooting - forget about it.
With all that being said, it is hard to imagine that one or two players would have moved the needle much.
Updated Prediction after loss at home to Penn State: 2 - 8 Final 10 games
Penn State - L
@OSU - L
@ Purdue - L by 35 pts
NW - L
Nebraska - W
@PSU - L
Wiscy - L
@Maryland - L
@ Minny - L
MSU - W
Yeah. That’s probably a loss too, but thought we could at least pull out three wins over the final 10. It’s possible we win zero.
MSU will at least be playing for a tourney birth. They’re going to kick out asses.
Yep but we didn't want him cause he failed a physical. Lol sure he did. I think that's a made up story.
“Knowledgeable and talented at basketball” Wtf does that have to do with anything? We just got clowned by a crappy B1G bottom feeder in Assembly Hall w/o their 18+ point ppg scorer. Pay attention man.
I love IU. I expect better.
I have explained my reasons for admiring Woodson and wanting him to be successful, but I am sorry to admit this is not working and changes unfortunately need to be made. I enjoyed some of the best at IU and was definitely spoiled but 2 or 3 good seasons since 1993 is not what I want or expect from our program.
I will always be all in on 24/7 sports at IU and cheer them all, but men's basketball has been a struggle for a lot of years. I don't know how I would have stayed engaged if all I cheered for was men's basketball.
