You don't want anyone talking politics on YOUR thread, but then you shit all over this one.
Great example of the mods on this board.
A less moderated Russia take
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Great example of the mods on this board.
He has to make the final call but the generals really are who come up with the information and strategy. Isn't that the way a CEO should act? Not just do it based upon a hunch or because he personally likes someone.
So blaming BIden is bad, but claiming Trump was a Russian agent for 4 years is OK?Some points on Putin's prep since Crimea:
Since 2015, Russia, by diverting oil and gas revenue, has expanded its currency reserves to a staggering $631 billion, equivalent to a third of Russia’s entire economy. It is the fourth-largest such reserve in the world, among the largest of any petrostate’s.And Mr. Putin, by paring down expenses, has kept overall debts to under two-thirds of his currency reserves.Crucially, the once-dominant dollar now accounts for only 16 percent of Russia’s currency reserves, which Moscow has replaced with euros, China’s renminbi, and gold.Russia has also restructured corporate debts in the country to be in rubles rather than dollars, for example.At the same time, Russia has shifted some trade to Asia. And, after 2014, when Russia imposed trade restrictions on European cheese as a retaliation for sanctions, Moscow replaced lost imports with homegrown alternatives.
Putin, Facing Sanction Threats, Has Been Saving for This Day (Published 2022)
Since paying the price for annexing Crimea in 2014, Russia has tried to make its economy sanctions-proof, hoarding currency to insulate the country.www.nytimes.com
So he was working hard at preparing all through Trump's term. Would he have done this under Trump? I do not know and I am absolutely sure no one else here knows. Some reasons he may have include:
Again, only Putin knows if he would have done anything. But some people exhibit BDS in suggesting it is ONLY because of Biden. For example, they blame Biden for Iranian drones. The Iranian drone program has been in existence for a very long time, they employed unmanned aerial vehicles in the Iraq War. Why didn't any other administration stop Iran from having a drone program?
- He is old, may not have time to outwait
- He invested heavily in nationalism for this reason and may have hoped Trump would act like India and Brazil
- He couldn't hoard cash forever
- Western nations are trying to use LESS oil and gas, not more. A tech breakthrough in batteries, for example, and he loses a key weapon.
A fair-minded person says that there is virtually nothing ANY president could do to stop Iranian drones. If we had Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln, Iran would have drones and Iran would use them to help virtually their only ally. But the crazies will crazy on the subject.
Pretty ironic you want to talk about being "fair-minded" now.
Yes, if you could not infer that from what I was saying that's what makes it such a tough job because whatever the outcome it's on you.
Well, you said he did whatever his generals told him, so I don't think it was clear at all.
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Quoting Marvin
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I agree that Russia needs to understand this mistake 1) better be a mistake and 2) this is their one and only mulligan. Personally, I would have Wagner Group command and control as the top retaliation location.
But at the same point, we are not yet positive this was a Russian missile. It can be a defensive weapon astray. My guess is that will lead to some serious talks with Ukraine."
I am reminded of Monty Python... OH You've Pissed me off now (swoosh an arm gone).. OH now I'm really mad (swoosh) second arm gone... OH BOY I'm really mad (swoosh there went a leg)..
Err'body knows the rules and have for decades. Even if an accident, you hit a NATO country. You die. Rain hell fire down on Russia. Stop this crap before its too late.
With all due intended respect to the moderators. (I sent you all those Omaha steaks. Were they good? )
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I agree that Russia needs to understand this mistake 1) better be a mistake and 2) this is their one and only mulligan. Personally, I would have Wagner Group command and control as the top retaliation location.
But at the same point, we are not yet positive this was a Russian missile. It can be a defensive weapon astray. My guess is that will lead to some serious talks with Ukraine."
I am reminded of Monty Python... OH You've Pissed me off now (swoosh an arm gone).. OH now I'm really mad (swoosh) second arm gone... OH BOY I'm really mad (swoosh there went a leg)..
Err'body knows the rules and have for decades. Even if an accident, you hit a NATO country. You die. Rain hell fire down on Russia. Stop this crap before its too late.
With all due intended respect to the moderators. (I sent you all those Omaha steaks. Were they good? )
Risk? That is already there. It's been there for decades. Putin doesn't seem to worry about risking it, he's using it as a tool (that he will never use). BUT, as KGB he gets his rocks off knowing that he can, and is, holding the rest of the world hostage.
Being held hostage only enriches politicians and creates fear of us minions. I won't live in fear. I won't be a KGB minion. I will say what I will do, and I will do what I say with 1 seconds notice of the rules being broken. .... The rules have been broken. Every Putin loves a pussy. I'll not live in fear.
This gabble didn't age well.
You are now endorsing 'hell-fire raining down' on the UKEs now?
WELL, in all good fashion, I did have the caveat in there that we didn't know if it could have been an accident. In a way, I ended up being kind of a fortune teller.
And If I recall, That was a Smirnoff night. So it's not like I'm totally anti Russia!
OK, so I am Pro/neutral interstellar immigration?
What is it that I said isn't still true? I'm not understanding what I did wrong.
Actually, it disproves your theory that Putin was waiting while Trump was in power.
The absurdity of CoH‘s argument lies in the simple truth that Ukraine has kicked Putin‘s ass from the beginning until now.
COH is likely to argue that Biden lost us World War II also.
Three Quarters of Ukraine west of the Dneiper blue line have no electricity, fuels or water...estimated 100,000 killed and 3-400,000 wounded. Estimated 2 million refugees...
Germany has no gas to drive the industrial engine of Europe after the sabotage of Nordstream..
Poland is suffering significant loss of men and material as the 'International' troops are engaged in much of the fighting and dying..one video shows a Canadian AFV, very new , remains of six Polish, all wearing complete NATO equipment, with the blue/gold cloth swatches on their legs; another, a ten minute video of American operators doing an attempted recon of a town, all wearing UKR patches..
Rangers would be my guess.
This is propaganda, and a lie!
There are multiple videos readily available showing American recon teams conducting ops in Ukr..
Dressed in Uke uniforms, wearing the blue/gold colors carrying AK variants and American man-portable a-a tubes..
American losses are not publicized.
So they're dressed like Ukranians, fighting in Ukraine, but you know they're Americans... how? Do you have their names?
American losses are not publicized because there are none. You are deep in conspiracy territory.
Not saying that you are wrong, but how do you honestly know they are American? Is it video of Bravo team from the show Seal Team?
They're wearing a ****ing GoPro, which records their voices...I'm not interested in your opinion.
If you're too lazy or inept or totally lacking in any interest at all....that's on you.
This is ALL VERY EASY TO FIND!
We need to stop and appreciate these special moments on the Cooler. Cheers everyone!
Whoa brother. We are on the same side.
What's the proof, and american sounding voices isnt' it.
FTR, I have zero doubt that we don't have a presence in theater, but "american voices on go pro" isn't good evidence for public consumption. We just need a little more. .. Saaay, maybe one of them had a "MOM" tattoo? That'd at least help. a little.
Ukraine is considered 'their own soil' by millions of Russian ethnic Slavs inside and outside of Ukraine.
No Russian nukes in Ukraine.
Why in God's name would Americans go undercover in extremely covert operations in Ukraine and wear GoPro's and post to YouTube?
