All of them got caught, right?So you’re saying they got caught?
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All of them got caught, right?So you’re saying they got caught?
I think we’re in agreement here.So, Biden’s administration stopped a potential terrorist attack. Would you rather they weren’t caught?
Probably more accurate to say Biden’s administration opened the doors to allow criminals in and caught some of them.I think we’re in agreement here.
Probably more accurate to say Biden’s administration opened the doors to allow criminals in and caught some of them.
Ten million people got through. 8 are bad guys?
Your last sentence is certainly true but it’s hard to call the threat exaggerated when the FBI is issuing warnings about it.Given the number of immigrants wanting to live and work in our country there are bound to be those who sooner lot later commit a crime.
In discussing how to screen potential citizens and analyze the threat shouldn't we have rational discourse based upon facts with far less poltical posturing ?
Some pols underestimate the potential threats while others completely exaggerate the problem.
Human nature IMO tends to take potential fears as more motivating so promoting the potential fears has its political advantages.
Wouldn’t make sense for a terrorist to enter the country undocumented & with much less chance of being captured, especially if they may be on a watch list? If it doesn’t make any sense, why are middle easterners choosing this route?
Makes No Sense
You forgot that Dems pack extra spending in the bill that has nothing to do with the bill. Then claim Repubs blocked bill.Didn’t have an emergency when Trump was in office, have an emergency when Biden is. Trump kept things under control & didn’t need a new bill.
So I’ll summarize:
Dems: Create a need for a bill by creating a crisis that wasn’t there before & then blame R’s for not passing the bill for the crisis that Dems created. Got it.
Your last sentence is certainly true but it’s hard to call the threat exaggerated when the FBI is issuing warnings about it.
FBI director warns of 'dangerous individuals' coming across southern border
The six intelligence chiefs testified about "worldwide threats" on Monday.abcnews.go.com
This shows an interesting thought processSo you’re saying they got caught?
Your last sentence is certainly true but it’s hard to call the threat exaggerated when the FBI is issuing warnings about it.
FBI director warns of 'dangerous individuals' coming across southern border
The six intelligence chiefs testified about "worldwide threats" on Monday.abcnews.go.com
1st off, both sides do that.You forgot that Dems pack extra spending in the bill that has nothing to do with the bill. Then claim Repubs blocked bill.
Thanks for your thoughtful posts.76, good link.
The link repeats something which I had seen previously, "Criminologists have consistently found that immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born Americans". (Can we believe this given those currently seeking asylum?)
Neverthess when you have 100,000 immigrants seeking asylum and 1% of them under Trump (2% under Biden) are found to have criminal records there is a heck of a lot of potential crime lurking in those seemingly low numbers.
Unfortunately left in the hands of those of us with a political bias we all seek data to support our opinions. Can only hope there are people making decisions about immigration who are seeking the truth and can make sound decisions.
That’s fair and i actually thought of that when i posted.not calling you out Hoopsdoc1978. this isn't related to this discussion at all but found it ironic you posted an article about the FBI's warnings on the border and it now sits above your signature, where you are clearly questioning the integrity of the FBI. not even saying I blame you. lol. but, man, the world we live in.
seems like a big leap. millions of illegals have entered the US the last 50 years and 9 of them committed acts for terrorism that lead to death. not an expert, but I'd assume people who cross the southern route are mostly desperate as shit. seems like a difficult way to come here to start a life much less set up a terrorist shop.
we have absolutely have a right to secure borders. couldn't agree with that more. but if your political party or news source tells you it's a matter of protecting the US from terrorism, that's just fear mongering BS. the numbers don't li
You are correct both sides do pack bills. There was more funding set to go to Israel and Gaza and to Ukraine. Also more money to process more and less money for border agents to actually secure the border.1st off, both sides do that.
2nd, what exactly are you claiming the dems added to the bill and have a link for proof?
I haven't heard about anything being attached to the border bill so would love to see the basis for your accusation
Don’t come… Don’t come…Yea, too bad republicans blocked the border bill
What is their excuse?The only thing I recall the dems doing is being upset about separating families and making fun of the wall that was supposed to be paid for by Mexico.
And right now it is the Republicans in congress blocking at every turn. What excuse is there for that?
It is politics to point fingers but pretending this is just biden's fault is obviously looking through hyper partisan glasses.
It may be easy to get in but damned hard to stay.Canada has 200,000km of coastline that you can boat up to.
The United States has 20,000.
Trust me, it's damn easy to get into Canada.
Biggest issue is just getting transportation from your landing spot to the US border. If you can steal a truck somewhere near the coast, getting into the US isn't that hard.
You could land by boat somewhere just north of Quebec City and walk 10 miles, cross a fence like the picture I posted, and be in the US (Maine).
Some terrorists come across borders. Others are home grown and pretty much operate out in the open.8 suspected terrorists with possible ISIS ties arrested in New York, L.A. and Philadelphia, sources say
The men from Tajikistan came to the U.S. through the southern border and their criminal backgrounds checks came back clean at the time they crossed, officials familiar with the matter said.www.nbcnews.com
Just "Bogeymen" I presume...
Nothing to see here... Just move along...
I'm curious if any of our far left "friends" recognize the threat having ISIS operatives coming across our borders freely represents...
Looks like we need to up security at gun shows. Or Trump rallys...Looks like the background check was a little lacking??
It was my understanding that they added more agents and more people processing claims so that people wouldn't have to wait years for their claims to be processed.You are correct both sides do pack bills. There was more funding set to go to Israel and Gaza and to Ukraine. Also more money to process more and less money for border agents to actually secure the border.
Here's two more articles on the topic. Since they're from CNN the left should feel comfortable reading them...The Dems are just praying a terrorist attack by these types doesn't happen before the election.
Here's another article on the topic:Here's two more articles on the topic. Since they're from the CNN the left should feel comfortable reading them...
This one is from almost a year ago... How many have we missed over that time frame???:
Just "bogeymen" I presume... (DWS)
That's funny.... Biden hasn't wanted to do anything about the border (except stop the states from doing anything) UNTIL it's an election year.Yea, too bad republicans blocked the border bill
It was my understanding that they added more agents and more people processing claims so that people wouldn't have to wait years for their claims to be processed.
That was important because decisions could be made in a timely manner so that those that failed admission would be booted from country without ever allowed free reign inside our border vs them being allowed to live here for years waiting on that decision to be made.
Ukraine and Israel aid had been included in previous versions. The one that was rejected by republicans was clean and even written by a conservative.
Just don't
Except when...Much, much more efficient to keep them out in the first place. Build the wall. Walls work.
When security let them?? The horror!!Except when...
Apparently you never heard of boats or shovels.Much, much more efficient to keep them out in the first place. Build the wall. Walls work.
So?That's funny.... Biden hasn't wanted to do anything about the border (except stop the states from doing anything) UNTIL it's an election year.
That’s where you’re completely wrong and where all of Biden’s proposed border fixes are complete failures. Any immigration reform that countenances accommodating the millions of economic migrants coming here under the guise of asylum is a non starter.Apparently you never heard of boats or shovels.
You still have to process legal asylum requests and doing so while in custody would be better than releasing them into the country while they wait their turn years later.
We don't have enough and asylum requests are completely legal. The bill also put a cap on those asylum requests and would have sent people back that were over that number. That is much stricter than current rules.That’s where you’re completely wrong and where all of Biden’s proposed border fixes are complete failures. Any immigration reform that countenances accommodating the millions of economic migrants coming here under the guise of asylum is a non starter.
First you must stem the flow not try and accommodate it by hiring more asylum officers and judges. We have enough.
Let them wait out their claim in Mexico or their home country and then we’ll see how many real asylum claims there are. My guess is it will drop precipitously.
Day I will never forget.. All 5 of them lol"letting" them...
You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re advocating fixing a hole in a boat by bringing in more buckets to bail out water. It’s incredibly stupid. Asylum requests are legal, it’s how they are managed where there’s quite a bit of latitude. This administration has decided to manage them by releasing people into the U.S. and hiring even more asylum workers so we can become an even bigger asylum magnet, and then trying to codify that into law. It’s stupid and only a dishonest shill would defend that practice.We don't have enough and asylum requests are completely legal. The bill also put a cap on those asylum requests and would have sent people back.
Republicans would rather keep the border as is and maybe you should be asking why that is instead of coming up with bogus defenses.
You realize it was a conservative that wrote the bill and that is how asylum requests worked, even under trump.You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re advocating fixing a hole in a boat by bringing in more buckets to bail out water. It’s incredibly stupid. Asylum requests are legal, it’s how they are managed where there’s quite a bit of latitude. This administration has decided to manage them by releasing people into the U.S. and hiring even more asylum workers so we can become an even bigger asylum magnet, and then trying to codify that into law. It’s stupid and only a dishonest shill would defend that practice.
We’ve been through this. Lankford negotiated that bill with a gun to his head. McConnell tasked him with coming back with Ukr/ Israel funding and to negotiate what border concessions he could.You realize it was a conservative that wrote the bill and that is how asylum requests worked, even under trump.
You have no clue what you are talking about because you think your propaganda is 100% accurate
So are you going to build all the facilities to house these millions of people while they wait to be processed?Apparently you never heard of boats or shovels.
You still have to process legal asylum requests and doing so while in custody would be better than releasing them into the country while they wait their turn years later.
You've come to the right place to find them.It’s stupid and only a dishonest shill would defend that practice.
Well, it didn't take yo long to figure that out.We’ve been through this. Lankford negotiated that bill with a gun to his head. McConnell tasked him with coming back with Ukr/ Israel funding and to negotiate what border concessions he could.
He wasn’t able to get any border concessions which is why he later disavowed his own bill. Trump instituted remain in Mexico and detained most asylum seeker at the border until slack jaws like you started crowing about “kids in cages”.
I’m done. You refuse to learn, you have an asshole where your mouth should be.
The Governor of Texas….enough said right there.Here's what the Governor of Texas thinks about Bidens Executive Action: