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(Semi-off-topic) Roy Williams’s Wife Stopped Him From Working With Bob Knight

“Before Roy Williams became North Carolina’s second-winningest coach in program history, he was an assistant on Tar Heels legend Dean Smith's coaching staff for 10 years.

North Carolina won a national championship 1982 when Williams served as an assistant for Smith, and six years later, Williams left to become the head coach and Kansas. But before Williams’s first North Carolina tenure ended, he was courted for a job opportunity by the Indiana coach Bob Knight.”


IU women move on in the BTT, dropping the Terps, 62-51...

The game got off to a slow start with both teams hitting a couple of FTs to make it 2-2 and it stayed that way for a while before they started connecting from the field. IU led at the end of the 1st period 18-13. Multiple times during the 2nd period, IU had a lead of 9 points but couldn't push it up into the double digits as Maryland scored multiple times in the 1st half on put backs off of offensive rebounds. IU was up 34-25 at the half. Of the Terps 21 first half rebounds, 9 were on the offensive boards. Holmes had her best half since returning from injury and was 4 of 5 from the field while scoring 10 points. IU's scoring was pretty balanced with the scoring spread out as was the case with the Terps. Neither team could connect on the 3-ball with IU going 0-3 from there while the Terps were 0-6. No one had more than one foul for IU in the first half. In the 3rd, IU had the lead up to 10 points before MD started chipping away and had the lead down to three points before Berger stole the ball and scored on a layup just before the buzzer to put IU up 44-39 at the end of the period. Maryland continued to score off missed shots in the 3rd, something they did in the first half as they had 11 offensive rebounds on the game at the end of the 3rd. IU built the lead up to 9 early in the 4th on a 3 ball, the first made 3 by either team, but the Terps cut into the lead again getting it down to 5. It was 54-49 with 1:20 left on the clock and MD started fouling immediately and IU put the game away at the foul line. IU survived committing 18 turnovers. MD was 0-11 on 3s and most of their game was scoring around the basket. This game may have put IU over as far as hosting opening round games in the NCAAs. IU faces OSU in the semifinals, a team they beat by double-digits in Columbus in their only game of the regular season with them.

The letter coach K keeps whining about

So, there have been a few articles this week about coach K and of course Coach Knight features prominently in them.

It's been confirmed that Knight was pissed at K over some press clippings where K distanced himself from Knight. So, Knight wrote K a letter before the final 4 game in 92, and had it delivered to K after the game. That game, of course, would be the infamous TV Ted game where we lead at halftime but lost due to some pretty terrible calls.

Anyone have more info about what the letter said, or why it waa allegedly so devastating to K?

The articles discuss some additional slights afterward from Knight that I think were blown out of proportion, either by the authors or their sources, which aren't K.

Anyone know more about the letter?

Friday Night Recruiting Watch: Sectionals

I am back at North Central High School tonight for the semi-final round matchups for the loaded Sectional 10.

Tonight's semi-round round games for Sectional 10 will first feature Lawrence North vs Warren Central at 6pm followed by Cathedral vs Arsenal Tech around 7:30pm.

Couple Indiana targets I will be watching tonight is 2022 Indiana signee and Lawrence North SG CJ Gunn, who is returning from his one game suspension, following by 2023 forward and Cathedral's Xavier Booker.

Sectional Finals games will take place tomorrow 3/5. If either Lawrence North or Cathedral make it to the Sectional Finals, expect me to be back at North Central tomorrow. If not, Sectional 8 Finals at Noblesville is more likely.

Be sure to follow along this thread and on twitter @KylerStaley for live updates throughout both games.

These are going to be two excellent games between 4 very talented teams.

Imagine your boss holding a press conference...

and announcing that you were just fired from your job. Your phone would be ringing off the hook from lawyers who want to represent you.

Everyone is told only to give dates of employment if someone calls looking for a reference.

If Darren Handy had a truck run over over his foot CTA would say he had a lower leg injury..

But when he is kicked off the team it is the lead story of the press conference. Only in athletic departments.....
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Here's an unusual (maybe amazing) stat

Through 19 Big Ten games, Stewart's late 3 pointer vs Rutgers marked the first time that either Stewart or Kopp (IU's designated shooters) have hit a 3 in the last 4 minutes of a game. Stewart had one at about the 4:16 mark of the Michigan game for a total of 2 in the last 5 minutes of conference games.

I'm not going to take the time to find out, but it's hard to imagine that there is another team even close to making the tournament that has gotten so little from it's outside shooters during crunch time of games

Official Prima-donna Thread

I just wanted to create a safe place for some group talk, and reach out to all the broken hearts that have polluted this message board to the point that it’s unreadable, predictable and repetitive.

Feel free to cry, hug and sniffle together. Right here in this thread. Let it all out. Share with each other your internal pain, your institutional emasculation and how your mommy’s never hugged you.
We are all here to listen to your cries for help. We all support you.

Please consider this a group therapy session.

State your name, your reason for being here and why Woodson gets your panties wrapped around your balls like an over torqued rubber band.

This is a judgement free zone.

Indiana teacher arrested after hitting student in school


Amazingly, most of the community on FB is supporting the teacher and blaming the kid. They think he should have been let go, but allowed to receive his full pension and quite a few think the kid "had it coming," because he had apparently been previously expelled and was a handful.

Anyone know if Indiana teacher's lose their pensions if fired instead of allowed to retire? I find it hard to believe that someone could lose an entire 40-year's-earned pension but the news reports seemed to imply that would have been the case.

Friday Recruiting Notebook - March 4

Indiana took a difficult loss to Rutgers on Wednesday which was essentially a 'play-in' game. Whichever team won that one, would feel pretty confident heading into the last 2ish games of the season that they had left.

With Indiana's loss, it went from being in 96 of 119 brackets in bracketmatrix.com with an average seed of 11.3 to just 55 of the 119 brackets as of this morning. Out of all of the 10-12 seeds in the bracketmatrix.com site, Indiana is one of just three teams to be in less than 100 of the brackets and the only one in less than 75.

Indiana faces Purdue on Saturday and then will play Michigan/Michigan State in its opener in the Big Ten Tournament. After that, a matchup with Wisconsin would take place -- a team IU has narrowly lost to both games this year.

A matchup with MSU/UM is much more difficult in my opinion than that of Wisconsin, so if iU were able to get past that opener, there could be a potential for another big win that would definitely put them in a much better spot come selection Sunday.

Other teams to watch for heading into this weekend are: Memphis, Loyola, SMU, TCU, Virginia Tech, Xavier, Wake Forest, Michigan, Wyoming, San Fransisco.

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Wednesday was a big recruiting night for Indiana. The program had four visitors, none bigger than 2023 four-star forward Coen Carr from Legacy Early College (SC). The top-70 forward had a great visit.

Carr is a 6-foot-7 forward and has an extreme amount of athleticism. Carr is best in transition or in the secondary break when it is difficult for defenders to get a clear stance on him. In the open floor, he shows a really nice burst of quickness and has nice, long strides that allow him to get to the rim at ease.While most of his looks come inside the paint, he is difficult to stop once he gets there. Because of his jumping ability, length and overall versatility, he can score around players, through players or overtop of them. Carr has the ability to bring down the house with a rim-rocking dunk off of one or two feet and has shown the ability multiple times.

Carr has a good relationship with 2022 signee Kaleb Banks and also with 2023 commit Jakai Newton. Carr is originally from the Atlanta area where both Banks and Newton are. He has known Newton since they were 10 years old. Yasir Rosemond has done a really good job here and obviously with all three of those guys.

2023 commit Gabe Cupps wants to play with Carr. He has made that very known to him and to others. He wants him to come to Indiana and that played into his decision to come to Indiana on Wednesday.

We will have more on Carr this weekend after he settles back in from his visit.

More on Carr:


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On the 2022 front, Centerville (OH) teammate of Gabe Cupps is Rich Rolf. The 6-foot-7 wing was also at the Indiana game on Wednesday for a visit. Rolf was originally committed to Drexel but re-opened his recruitment in the fall.

Rolf is a 6-foot-7 forward who can play on the perimeter and is a terrific shooter. He shot 49.5 percent this season -- so far -- from three on 109 attempts. He averages 17.4 points per game this season, is a 1,000-point scorer and is also Centerville's leading rebounding in program history.

He had 28 points and was 4-of-9 from three against Huntington Prep (WV), 20 points and 10 rebounds against Vertical Academy (NC), 29 points on 7-of-10 from three against SoCal Academy (CA) -- all nationally ranked opponents.

Rolf would be a preferred walk-on and then earn a scholarship as a sophomore. If Indiana can get him as a preferred walk-on for year one, that would be incredible. He is the type of player you would love to have as a 6-foot-7 player who can shoot the ball. A decision likely won't come for a few months as his recruitment is now starting to tick up with more high-major programs taking notice.

We will have more on Rolf later today.

Below are highlights of his big games this season. He is No. 24.

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2024 forward from Peoria Notre Dame (IL) Cooper Koch was also on campus on Wednesday. The 2024 forward has been to Indiana multiple times over the last year and was also at Hoosier Hysteria this past fall.

Koch was on Wisconsin's campus for its win over Purdue earlier in the week. He is planning to visit Purdue, Illinois and Notre Dame over the next week.

Koch's dad, JR Koch, played for Iowa in college and still has very close ties to the Iowa program.

Koch is trying to keep his recruitment as open as possible right now: 'It definitely influences it a little. He knows all of the old managers and people around the program but we are keeping it pretty wide open in terms of my options right now.'

Wisconsin's visit was a big one for him earlier this week and that atmosphere was a big, big moment.

Koch is going to be tough to take out of the midwest. Most of his offers are in the Big Ten and with the amount of visits he can take within driving distance this early on in his recruiting process, it will be difficult for east coast/west coast schools to build that relationship as much as the programs in the midwest.

Still a bit to go in his recruitment but he is looking to make a decision before his junior year.

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2023 Bloomington North (IN) forward JQ Roberts had a monster game in his playoff opener, going for 23 points and 20 rebounds in a win.

Roberts has visited Indiana multiple times this season unofficially. Indiana is still involved but a guy like Coen Carr is a a take before Roberts.

Here is more on Roberts from Rivals national writer Travis Graf.


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Sectionals continue in Indiana tonight with Lawrence North taking on Warren Central. Kyler will be there for TheHoosier.com in what will be CJ Gunn's return from his one-game suspension following two technical fouls. Cathedral plays Arsenal Tech in the second game.

Below are notes from Kyler for a few of the Indiana targets he got eyes on so far this week.

2023 forward Xavier Booker: Booker and Cathedral played this past Wednesday night in the Sectional 10 opening round where they defeated host North Central 76-68. Overall, Cathedral had some pretty balanced scoring from the majority of their team and with Booker, he finished with a total of 12 points. The first half, he was a lot more dominant scoring at all three levels and even was beating people down the floor so he could get the easy transition score. Also, he continued to impress with his shot blocking and rim protecting skills as he is a true disruptor on that end. Not your typical, traditional big man as he looks more to score from the outside and facing the basket instead of with his back to it. In the second half, the only notable thing he did was an easy two-handed slam. He was pulled with about seven minutes left in the game, something that we have seen happen multiple times this season. His attitude is another thing that we have noticed as it has often been poor at times but I thought this game it was a lot better and he seemed to be playing with more energy. Cathedral advances onto the semi-final round where they will meet a very talented Arsenal Tech team tonight after the Lawrence North/Warren Central game. Big chance we see Indiana signee CJ Gunn vs Xavier Booker in the Sectional 10 finals tomorrow night.

2023 forward Logan Imes: Imes and Zionsville played host of Sectional 8, Noblesville, in the first of two opening round games this past Tuesday where they suffered an upset loss 67-53. Imes was struggling for the majority of the game here and when the first half ended, he had recorded zero points. In fact, he did not score until about the last two minutes of the third quarter. In the fourth quarter, he started getting his offensive game going and ended up with a total of 9 points when the final buzzer sounded. This was an incredibly rare type of performance from the very talented lead guard. He usually has a very smooth playing style, but Noblesville did a great job guarding him and forcing him to take uncomfortable shots. If Imes was playing as his normal, high-level scoring self, the outcome of this game could have been much different. However bad performance aside, Imes is still a high-major prospect that should see a big summer as far as recruitment goes.

2025 guard Jalen Haralson: In the second opening round game of Sectional 8 this past Tuesday night, Haralson and Fishers were shockingly defeated by Braden Smith (Purdue signee) and Westfield 62-44. Other than Smith, who dropped a game high 28 points, Haralson was the best player on the floor. He dropped a total of 19 points where the majority of them came around the basket. I felt watching him he was at his best in transition and when he could take his defender one-on-one in iso situations. There were times that I felt he was a little hesitate on some shots he should have taken but once he would go full steam to the basket, there was no stopping him due to his incredible athleticism and explosiveness. He is still only a freshman so there were a few mistakes he made but at 6-foot-6 and playing the lead guard position, you can tell he has all the tools and how special of a player he is already and going to continue to be. At this point in time, he just needs more experience to take his game to the next level.

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Small notes...

2022 signee Jalen Hood-Schifino was named a Naismith Third-Team All-American this week.

2023 commit Gabe Cupps was named Ohio All-Southwest District Player of the Year and to the First-Team. Teammate Rich Rolf joined him on the First-Team.

Centerville (OH) plays its district final game on Sunday night and TheHoosier.com will be there. They are currently 25-0 on the season.

2022 Quaker Valley (PA) guard Adou Thiero led his team to a WPIAL 4A title last night. He had 31 points, 17 rebounds and 7 blocks. Thiero visited Indiana a few weeks ago and is a late bloomer in the class. If Indiana decides to continue pursuing, it would be a tough team to beat. Thiero will look to take some official visits and I wouldn't be surprised to see IU get another visit.

More on Thiero's unofficial visit:

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Sectional Semi-Final Friday

Best single sports day of the year, in my opinion. Not as widely "consumable" as Thursday/Friday of March Madness, or the Super Bowl, or Opening Day for baseball...but in terms of the overall experience, the nostalgia, the community effect...if you live in Indiana, and have a "home school" playing tonight...it just doesn't get much better!

I'll be sitting in historic Northside Gym tonight in Elkhart. Every time I walk into Northside, and I mean every time, the history pours over me. The smells...popcorn mixed with that familiar "old school building" odor. If I could buy "Northside Gym Air Freshener", I would. I'll get goosebumps when I walk up the stairs and come out and see the court, because I do, every time. The last time I was there, my son's 8th grade team won a thrilling game to win their conference tournament championship...another vivid and rich memory to add to the personal scrapbook! Honestly, probably the best one yet. And that's saying a lot!

I was lucky enough to see Shawn Kemp play a game in Northside, sectionals...I think?? I wish I was old enough to fully remember that game! I remember the smell of the gym, how loud it was, and I know now that I took watching him play for granted. Because as young as I was, I just assumed basketball like that was common. It wasn't common. It was historic. And as I watched him become the "Rain Man" later on, I was always brought back to those feelings I had that night at Northside...and the smells, always the smells.

My next memory was watching my high school play against Brad Miller and East Noble, in the morning game of the Elkhart Regional. I had watched our team play nearly every game that season, somehow it all looked different though that morning. The colors were brighter, the jerseys were shinier, the players looked bigger, stronger, faster. East Noble whipped our butts that morning, we didn't have an answer for Miller, but they had other really good players too! Thinking back to that day, the anticipation and excitement of watching Northridge High School, in a Regional Game!...well it was amazing. And again, always present in my Northside memories, are the smells.

Next it was my turn to personally experience it all. After winning Sectionals my senior year, we had the difficult task of playing South Bend Clay in the 2nd game of the morning session. Our coach decided that we wouldn't come watch the first game, so that setup one of the most amazing, emotional, experiences I've ever had in my life...running out for warmups in our regional game. Northside is a big gym, it seats over 7,000 people. And its a fairly tall gym too. Back then, they turned out the lights to the upper bowl. The effect that had, for players on the floor, I'll never in my life forget. When we ran out for warmups, I looked up into the stands, and couldn't see the top of the stands. It might as well have gone on up forever! And seeing a very distinct, very geometrical, Green rectangle in the corner...which was our section of fans...again, I'll never, ever forget that feeling. That Clay team had numerous college players on it, including Jaron Cornell, who was only a couple years removed from hitting their version of "The Shot" on Bryce Drew and Valpo in the state title game. They were ranked in the top 10, maybe top 5, in the state. Everyone was counting down the days until the following week when they'd face the eventual Mr. Basketball in Kevin Ault and Warsaw, in the Ft Wayne Semistate. I don't remember the specific game plan, all I remember was we had very specific orders not to "Make Cornell mad!"...don't talk trash with him, don't bump him harder than normal, don't do anything to light his fire. We put our best defender on him, and he stayed in front of him all game, was intense but very "polite" with him. I'm guessing it was the most pleasant "bad game" he ever played. He finished well below his average...and we played amazing, and destroyed them! We weren't slouches, so this isn't a David and Goliath story. We had 4 college players too, a couple of us were really good small college players. But the euphoria of doing what we did, in front of that many people...amazing. And as an added bonus, the game before us, the unranked East Noble Knights...yes them again...upset the ranked Penn Kingsmen. So in our minds, we were already thinking about Memorial Coliseum in Ft Wayne!

We arrived early for the championship that night. As we entered Northside...the smells... it was much more laid back that night, for whatever reason. I think part of it was we really thought we were going to handle East Noble. They weren't ranked. They were from Noble County. Honestly, I didn't even make the connection to the game a few years earlier where East Noble destroyed Northridge in the same gym. We watched the 3 point and dunk contests (they did them back then, sectional teams that fed into the Regional would send competitors for them on to the Regional. Then if your team lost in Regional, the 3 losing teams would send competitors on with whoever won the contests at the Regional...and so on. And they crowned winners at State!) So we watched that, then leisurely went in to get ready for warmups. I don't remember warmups as much this time. What I do remember is the first play of the game. East Noble got the tip...warning number 1. Our big was 6'7", with long arms, he rarely ever lost the tip. They proceeded to run a version of a swing offense, for roughly 2 minutes, very easily handling the ball against our signature pressure defense...warning number 2. We usually made it very difficult for teams to run long possessions. Then they ran a double screen play for the guy on their scouting report that wasn't supposed to hurt us. It was one of those plays where two guys close together at the top of the key, kind of a closing gate type play. I happen to have switched on this guy, and I'm the one that got caught in the gate. I'll never forget the foreboding feeling I felt as that guy rose up and calmly buried a 20 footer. As we quickly realized after that, East Noble was REALLY, REALLY good. Their point guard was a D1 prospect. Their big is one of the best players to ever play at Trine University. Their shooting guard recently coached Central Noble girls to a state title, after a good college playing career. They were legit. And they were the exact type of team we didn't want to play in that situation. Controlled, methodical, long possessions. We got down double digits early. And I remember the desperate feeling we all had going into the locker room at halftime. A lot of our team was juniors. I was the senior leader of the team. And I remember going to each of the main rotation guys, looking them in the eye, and telling them I loved them and believed in them. No clue why I did that, but its another one of those "burnt in memories" that always come up when I walk into that gym. The second half was completely different. You can't "roar back" against a team like that. But we chipped away at the lead. Finally with about a minute to play, our big hit a baseline turnaround jumper to tie the game. Ive never in my life heard a sporting event, really any event, be that loud. We had about 2/3 of the crown in the gym that night. Their next possession, we were able to force a steal near half court...our guy that stole the ball was streaking to the basket, and I was trailing. He was going way too fast, his layup was contested a little bit, and he missed it, I jumped up and I'll never forget the feeling of that ball being just out of reach and glancing off my fingertips. They got the ball and went down and scored in a scrambled play. We still had a chance, with the ball, down 2, with plenty of time left. We ran a play that basically always netted a good shot for us. They had us scouted really well, because the future Central Noble coach jumped the pass and stole the ball, and streaked down the floor ending up getting fouled. He made both free throws to put them up 4 with 10 seconds to go. We didn't have any timeouts left, and I hit a 3 with 4 seconds to go. Back then the clock didn't stop under a minute...so again, another feeling and memory I'll never forget is the crushing feeling of those last couple seconds ticking away. 41-40...loss...17 game win streak over...in a blink. (I mentioned earlier most of the team was juniors...they had a solid year the following year as well, but lost to East Noble in regionals, again. The score? 41-40. Weird)

That was 1996 for those that don't know that already. I've had many, many, many memories in that gym since. Recently, Northridge has won a handful of sectionals. And while the environment is definitely different now than it was back then. The smells are still the same. The connection to that gym is stronger than ever. I literally can not wait to walk into Northside Gym tonight. I'll be misty eyed, my family will make fun of me, I'll be adding another memory to my scrapbook. My son enters high school next year. I've already warned my wife that I'll probably be full on crying, before the games even start.

Thanks for reading this far if you did. Sorry for the long post. I could go on and on and on about the range of lessons I learned on my regional day at Northside Gym. But mostly I just want to go take a deep breath, close my eyes, feel the goosebumps...and watch my Raiders give it their all tonight!

Outsider’s perspective

Hello hoosier fans. I’m a casual Indiana fan who actually favors another B10 team but I’m married into a Southern Indiana family and therefore follow your team somewhat because my in laws are pretty rabid. I’ve been keeping up with Indiana hoops somewhat since Tom Crean. I live in Milwaukee and followed Marquette somewhat so there’s that too. For all the people saying it’s already time to start looking beyond Woodson I say…you can’t. The mistakes of the past can be debated but ditching Crean without a sure fire upgrade was a mistake. Hindsight shows that he wasn’t rock bottom by any means but that’s all water under the bridge now. I get that there is building frustration from years of mediocrity that is projected onto Woodson but he needs to he given time to turn things around without bearing the brunt of the pent up impatience. The caliber of talent he has on the current team is 3rd tier Big 10. All that HS prospect ranking stuff goes out the window once the players arrive on campus and start playing and the guys haven’t lived up to or been coached up to their hype. The best player on the team, Jackson-Davis is a good garbage man type inside player but that’s really the extent of his game. He’s not a great defender/rim protector or rebounder. I’d actually classify him as sort of a poor man’s Ethan Happ. If he gets the ball real deep he’s teriffic and he’s a decent passer but that’s about it. Wisconsin had the exact same problems Indiana is having now when Happ was on the team offensively because scheme wise he’s really easy to defend to the point where you don’t really have to defend him if he’s 10 feet or more away from the basket. That allows the defense to clog everything up. The rest of the roster…there aren’t any NBA level potential guys and not a single guy I would call clutch. So the win-loss total is about right. Woodson had to scramble to find guys to fill out the roster and as a result came up with guys like Stewart, Kopp and Johnson.There might have been other teams pursuing those guys in the transfer portal but I think it’s safe to say there weren’t any tears shed when they opted for Indiana. The decision was made to hire Woodson and I think you have to stick with it. For one, a revolving door of coaches is a bad look to recruits. His coaching is being second guessed (some fairly) mostly because he doesn’t have the players to deliver wins in the B1G. A good roster house cleaning is necessary IMO. It’s not his fault that Indiana didn’t win enough to qualify for the Dance the previous 5 years. But the fan base is understandably fed up with mediocrity. He has to be given the space and patience to turn things around. From here, it’s not about recruiting the most highly ranked players he can find, it’s about bringing in the RIGHT types of players. A team can ascend to the top 10 with just a couple of dynamic offensive players but the rest of the guys have to be fundamentally smart and sound. Indiana has a lot of athleticism on the roster but not a lot of smart and sound. He’s in a tough spot and probably shouldn’t have made that statement about winning right away and no rebuild. If even one of the wing/slasher guys he’s bringing in next year can fill it up against high level D1 competition, the team will he better next year. At this point, with the roster he has, I don’t think an accurate determination can really be made about his coaching. One other thing, Indiana needs to ditch that cream puff pre-conference schedule they’ve been playing for years now. It doesn’t toughen up the team heading into conference play, doesn’t help get quality wins that can improve a tournament resume and misleads the fans (and maybe even the players themselves) into thinking the team is better and more prepared than it really is. The team was 10-1 at one point this season I believe but hardly any of those wins benefit the team over the course of the rest of the season. The best thing the fans can do, as tough as it is, is try to be patient.

2022 guard Adou Thiero note

Quaker Valley (PA) guard Adou Thiero went for 31 points, 17 rebounds and 7 blocks to lead QV to a 4A Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League title game. Had 22 in the second half.

Class of 2022 guard who recently visited Indiana.

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Question for any of you who are ex-military

watching coverage tonight, how can anyone in their right mind fire missiles or drop bombs on an apartment building, I guess if I was in combat, and someone was shooting at me I could possibly take someone's else's life. but I can't comprehend how rank and file Russian soldiers can kill indiscriminately. You always hear about high suicide rates amongst combat veterans I wonder if having to do these types of things scar people for life

Admins

The problem with this program is what is has been the last twenty years. It begins up top. Obviously its been talked about. I am hard on woodson but he is what he is and maybe I should not expect more from him. Dolson hired him not woodsons fault.. I guess maybe he will work out but the admins have simply never have been interested in hiring a big time guy after sampson. They have the money clearly from boosters money is not the issue. They paid off archie. And no I do not believe we could not get a big time coach
The admins simply refuse to touch a big name coach that isnt 100% pure as the driven snow which there are none.
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