I think Biden has demonstrated to a not insignificant number of people he's just too damn old. Trump would be the same age if he runs in 2024. On top of all of the other minuses age is yet another one.
Anti-MAGA Conservative roundtable
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Nobody's winning over anyone here, regardless of what they post.
Well I would assume a guy like Taylor voted for Trump initially, since Trump hired him for a fairly noteworthy position...
Based on what he said in the longer interview I posted, it sounds like up until last week he considered himself a Republican and would likely vote against trump in a GOP primary. But again he's a counter terrorism guy, and his analysis of Buffalo led him to announce he's leaving the Party completely. Doesn't mean he considers himself a Dem, just an Independent who no longer sees a place in the current GOP.
So how does that differ from your assessment, since you voted against Trump originally, but for all intents and purposes you seem to be allied and would likely vote for GOP candidates in 2022 and 2024? What do you think he sees differently about Buffalo than you do, vis a vis the GOP? I know why you and I likely disagree, but why do you think you feel differently than he does?
Which is kind of what you just did, so some self-reflection might be in order. And I'm not a Democrat and never have been.
I think it was Walsh who pointed out that every single GOP Primary winner has sworn fealty to Trump, despite the fact that Trump may have endorsed their opponent instead.
And the former head of the RNC has a guest fill in role for one of MSNBC's regular hosts and chooses to bring on fellow Republicans like himself who feel adrift within the confines of the current pro-Trump party. I don't see why some are complaining about that type of discussion in the midst of a Primary season...
What is obvious is Trump's abrasive personality clouds a lot of peoples minds. If Trump is a buffoon I can't imagine what Biden is. As I said in another post I don't get all of you people wanting Mr Rogers to be President and be your best buddy and neighbor and hang his cardigan in your closet. I could care less about his personality vs getting things done and the comparisons between him and Biden are laughable. Joes staff bragging about the biggest economic turnaround like Biden actually had jack shit to do with it. The pandemic slowed/became manageable and people went back to work and business reopened.
C'mon, guy. You're not allowed to talk about Trump unless you like him. Otherwise, you're obsessed with him. Or, even worse, suffering from TDS!
I’ll take the field. I know Democrats enjoy obsessing over him, but he’s not that popular in terms of Presidents. He was the first President in 28 years not to get re-elected. He lost the House, Senate, and popular vote (both times). And he just got beat by a 78 year old Joe Biden with limited mental capabilities. To be fair, Republicans are good at f#cking things up, so you have chance.
If I knew you, we would be betting
I think it will be DeSantis, assuming both of them run.Agreed. His record is that of losing. Desantis would destroy him in a debate
Maybe because a lot of people don't see how Trump would be preferable in any election (general or primary). Sorry, but the left doesn't have any near as bad/scary/nutso as Trump and that is before even getting into policy.
Yes, he's a resident of Florida.
The post overall is a level of dumb I don't see from you.
"A politically biased news channel covers a resident of Florida who is unlikely to ever run for president again because it's viewers are obsessed with same and it serves as a distraction from the ineptitude of their own administration."
I stand by every word. Look up MSNBC. No sane person disputes its bias nor their preoccupation with Trump and distractions.
As for Trump I genuinely think he will only run if it's a better than 50/50 shot that he wins: hence a far lefty. Any moderate the Dems put out would destroy Trump. Last election you Dems put out a cadaver and beat him. Imagine a decent candidate. Dems do the smart thing and Trump won't run. He won't want to suffer defeat again. As it stands he can claim he was cheated. Fool me once.... He'll hang onto that.
lol... trump is so smart that he thought we won the revolutionary war by taking over airports, that injecting disinfectant was a possible option against covid, and that you could protect yourself from hurricanes by nuking them...which those hurricanes were weaponized and being sent by the chinese.
A real Einstein
Well at least he knew he was President and not a senator . If I were a Biden ass licker like you, the last thing I would bring up are Trump's gaffs.lol... trump is so smart that he thought we won the revolutionary war by taking over airports, that injecting disinfectant was a possible option against covid, and that you could protect yourself from hurricanes by nuking them...which those hurricanes were weaponized and being sent by the chinese.
A real Einstein
Grover lol
Your admin is setting records: murders; inflation; gas. From foreign policy to covid to culture wars to the doa agenda they've bungled everything there is to bungle. Worrying about Trump is all that's left. It's game over for this admin. Time to Make America Florida
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I don't think he is a buffoon per se. I think he is an egomaniac and that allowed him to get caught up in something akin to the umpire scene from the Naked Gun. Each time he got more over the top and people ate it up, it fed his ego and he tried to top that.
Personally, I think that quite a bit of the GOP establishment pushback against him is more rooted in not wanting to be associated with the deplorables than it is anything else. You had people completely flip and start arguing the opposite of everything they used to argue and say, "well because Trump..." Ok, well if Trump said he liked chocolate cake, that shouldn't fundamentally change your views on chocolate cake. What it was really about, IMO, is that Ttump gets support from the one group in this country that all the other groups are not really fans of and there is the added bonus that you can say whatever the heck you want about them and not get a blowback because of their akin color. Poor whites. All the epithets that get thrown at the MAGA types are the same things you have always seen thrown at poor whites. "The people we think are ignorant and we don't want to be associated with are part of that party so we want out...I mean, the party was still operating as it had been operating since at least GWB but..."
As to the guy that went to IU, a Chinese guy just shot up a Taiwanese church. He was connected to the Chinese government through organizations they have set in the U.S. He wrote a manifesto about dealing with the Taiwanese issue (using China's verbiage for the issue) and not a word. Didn't fit the narrative. The Buffalo shooter said he was an authoritarian leftist and basically a radical green. He also harbored racist views so we have to change the GOP? That's just dumbassery.
I didn’t vote for Trump in 16 or 20.
But if the choice in 24 is between Trump and someone who promises more of the same as this administration, I’ll absolutely vote for him.
But if the choice in 24 is between Trump and someone who promises more of the same as this administration, I’ll absolutely vote for him.
Google "Fox News Trump endorses" and narrow your settings to the past week and you'll get 13 links to stories on foxnews.com
Google "MSNBC Trump endorses" and you get half as many links.
Kudos on the umpire scene reference.
That's a very specific topic. As of last year cnn and msnbc had mentioned trump more than Biden - the actual president.
I know you don't like disagreement but I'm trying to be civil here and am asking for some reciprocity.
The issues you've identified are huge problems and obviously matter to people. And, yes, Republicans should absolutely hammer those issues in the leadup to November. But framing the democracy issue (and it is an issue) as simply "worrying about Trump" is erroneous. Call me old school, but bullshit election denying, ongoing and baseless allegations of election fraud, and election interference at the state and local level by an enormously influential political leader are incredibly irresponsible and dangerous in a representative democracy. That's a big deal that needs to be part of the discussion.
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Not taking Intel briefings, not listening to brilliant people like McMaster (because he couldn’t handle smarter people than he), his nepotistic approach to governing, I could go on and on - are all hallmarks of a buffoon.
Yet somehow he was sure as hell doing a lot better job than Biden is . I am not some big supporter of Trump the man if we had a better choice. If Joe took an intel briefing he likely sleeps though it. Point is, currently Biden is President and people like you are still focusing on Trump all day.
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I don’t understand why you’re bringing Biden into it. I’m talking about trump. You’re making a comparison where I am solely focused on trump.
I don’t see how what happened in Buffalo has anything to do with the GOP.
Just make this your automatic post. It will save so much time for everyone.
Trump is a fake.
We should all hate that kind of a person.
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