Your rotation for the Tennessee X game.

[GeorgeStrait IU]

I still look for Woody to play an out if whack rotation even though this game doesent mean much other than optics.

Reneau
MgBako
Goode. (galloway not 100%?)
Carlyle
Rice

6- Ballo
7- Cupps
8- Tucker

9-10- PossiblyHatton, then Leal, minor sweat for Galloway, do not see James or Newton. Thoughts?

Would like to see a bunch of Reneau/Mgbako, Goode, and our backcourt vs Marian with Tucker & Ballo. Soooo deep. Goode helps with the Galloway & Newton question marks.

 

[iubirdman]

I still look for Woody to play an out if whack rotation even though this game doesent mean much other than optics.

Reneau
MgBako
Goode. (galloway not 100%?)
Carlyle
Rice

6- Ballo
7- Cupps
8- Tucker

9-10- PossiblyHatton, then Leal, minor sweat for Galloway, do not see James or Newton. Thoughts?

Would like to see a bunch of Reneau/Mgbako, Goode, and our backcourt vs Marian with Tucker & Ballo. Soooo deep. Goode helps with the Galloway & Newton question marks.

We will start both Malik and Ballo. Woody has talked about playing smaller, but I think we will start both halves with both bigs, and then when we sub one out we will be small the rest of the half, but will be small the rest of the way. Lineup will be Rice, Carlyle, MM, Malik, and Ballo with Goode, Cupps, Tucker getting the majority of the bench minutes (depending on health of TG and Newton) with Hatton and Leal playing a few mins

 

[BA47591]

We will start both Malik and Ballo. Woody has talked about playing smaller, but I think we will start both halves with both bigs, and then when we sub one out we will be small the rest of the half, but will be small the rest of the way. Lineup will be Rice, Carlyle, MM, Malik, and Ballo with Goode, Cupps, Tucker getting the majority of the bench minutes (depending on health of TG and Newton) with Hatton and Leal playing a few mins

I would say you hit it on the head.

Let's see how clunky or not the two bigs play together. I think it's more about Mgbako being able to close out and defend the perimeter.

I know I'd like to see Woody pick Ballo or Reneau and go with Tucker at the 3 and Mgbako the 4.

 

[HoosierinNebraska]

how would you rank the starters with Ball handling? i feel we're pretty good in that sense and here is how i would rank them:

1. Rice
2. Raneau
3. Carlyle
4. Mgbako
5. Ballo

 

[steelyvan]

how would you rank the starters with Ball handling? i feel we're pretty good in that sense and here is how i would rank them:

1. Rice
2. Raneau
3. Carlyle
4. Mgbako
5. Ballo

TJD had an awful passing game at the start of college career. But he progressed really impressively. Hoping MR can do the same. He has a ways to go.

 

[kkott]

We will start both Malik and Ballo. Woody has talked about playing smaller, but I think we will start both halves with both bigs, and then when we sub one out we will be small the rest of the half, but will be small the rest of the way. Lineup will be Rice, Carlyle, MM, Malik, and Ballo with Goode, Cupps, Tucker getting the majority of the bench minutes (depending on health of TG and Newton) with Hatton and Leal playing a few mins

^^This^^

Woody hasn't shown a lot of creativity in exploring different lineups and combinations. I expect he'll start what he thinks will be our starting rotation and then sub out individually, but not really play with combinations, in the first game. I think he'll want to establish a baseline and then adjust if he doesn't like something he sees.

 

[kkott]

I know I'd like to see Woody pick Ballo or Reneau and go with Tucker at the 3 and Mgbako the 4.

Barring injury, I think the best you can hope for is that grouping when either Ballo or Reneau go to the bench.

 

[Cavanagh]

how would you rank the starters with Ball handling? i feel we're pretty good in that sense and here is how i would rank them:

1. Rice
2. Raneau
3. Carlyle
4. Mgbako
5. Ballo

You think Malik has better handles than Kanaan? Typo?

 

[VanPastorMan]

TJD had an awful passing game at the start of college career. But he progressed really impressively. Hoping MR can do the same. He has a ways to go.

It was such a joy to have TJD at IU. He got better in a lot of areas. I just wish he could have been on bigger winning teams.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

not sure how the lineup eventually shakes out but I can't see starting the first game, even an exhibition game, with our $2M free agent on the bench, if he's healthy.

 

[steelyvan]

not sure how the lineup eventually shakes out but I can't see starting the first game, even an exhibition game, with our $2M free agent on the bench, if he's healthy.

an interesting strategy: starting Ballo and sitting MR. platooning those guys at the 5 and getting them to play flat out every second could wreck opposing teams game preparations. can you imagine as the other team begins their own substitution patterns and their subs have to face MR?

 

[kkott]

not sure how the lineup eventually shakes out but I can't see starting the first game, even an exhibition game, with our $2M free agent on the bench, if he's healthy.

If healthy, not a chance. CMW has never shown the desire or willingness to toy with lineups too much and I don't expect it to start now. I'm pretty confident we'll see MR and OB starting each half, but I think he'll keep one on the floor all the time, but during those sub periods after the start of each half is when we'll see a 4 out approach. And, maybe sitting Ballo at the end of games if his FT shooting doesn't improve. He did shoot 70% as a soph, so maybe we can see an improvement there! If not, it's nice to have MR and even Hatton available. Lots of parts on this team!

 

[h20pls]

^^This^^

Woody hasn't shown a lot of creativity in exploring different lineups and combinations. I expect he'll start what he thinks will be our starting rotation and then sub out individually, but not really play with combinations, in the first game. I think he'll want to establish a baseline and then adjust if he doesn't like something he sees.

This has been my observation as well. It's likely the starting lineup at Tennessee will be the starting lineup for a bulk of the season...

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

If healthy, not a chance. CMW has never shown the desire or willingness to toy with lineups too much and I don't expect it to start now. I'm pretty confident we'll see MR and OB starting each half, but I think he'll keep one on the floor all the time, but during those sub periods after the start of each half is when we'll see a 4 out approach. And, maybe sitting Ballo at the end of games if his FT shooting doesn't improve. He did shoot 70% as a soph, so maybe we can see an improvement there! If not, it's nice to have MR and even Hatton available. Lots of parts on this team!

haven't heard anything lately....what's the over/under on Ballo showing up at the TN exhib game in a boot? After all...."It's Indiana"...which means we can't start the season without at least one starter wearing the infamous IU boot.

 

[IUNorth]

Very uneducated guess here...based on highlights of incoming guys...

Rice
Carlyle
Mgbako
Reneau
Ballo

Gallo, Goode, Tucker, Cupps main rotation subs.

Some extended minutes with only 1 of Reneau or Ballo on the floor.

Our starting lineup doesn't have to look "clunky". That obviously depends on how Reneau and Ballo are used. But Ballo has always been a very active inside/outside type movement big. And Reneau started to do a lot more of that last year as the year wore on. I hope to see a lot of early "5 out" looks, even with our starters on the floor. Ballo is a proven pick and roll player. Reneau showed he can shoot the ball last year. They're both more than capable of diving in to the post when opportunities arise. But parking either of them down there isn't necessary. Ballo doesn't play that way anyways. And it isn't helpful for Reneau, or our team, either.

 

[kkott]

Very uneducated guess here...based on highlights of incoming guys...

Rice
Carlyle
Mgbako
Reneau
Ballo

Gallo, Goode, Tucker, Cupps main rotation subs.

Some extended minutes with only 1 of Reneau or Ballo on the floor.

Our starting lineup doesn't have to look "clunky". That obviously depends on how Reneau and Ballo are used. But Ballo has always been a very active inside/outside type movement big. And Reneau started to do a lot more of that last year as the year wore on. I hope to see a lot of early "5 out" looks, even with our starters on the floor. Ballo is a proven pick and roll player. Reneau showed he can shoot the ball last year. They're both more than capable of diving in to the post when opportunities arise. But parking either of them down there isn't necessary. Ballo doesn't play that way anyways. And it isn't helpful for Reneau, or our team, either.

From memory, I think Ballo is one of the best PnR guys I've seen at the college level. Kofi Cockburn's size but more athletic. Hope he stays healthy this year. We've rarely had the "huge guy" at center, and to have a guy that size who's also athletic is exciting. After railing at the refs for 2 years on all the contact they allowed Edey to initiate and get away with, I just hope they stay frustratingly (for the other programs; especially one up in WL) consistent this year!

 

[kkott]

haven't heard anything lately....what's the over/under on Ballo showing up at the TN exhib game in a boot? After all...."It's Indiana"...which means we can't start the season without at least one starter wearing the infamous IU boot.

No idea.... but, I'm not taking that bet!

 

[IUNorth]

From memory, I think Ballo is one of the best PnR guys I've seen at the college level. Kofi Cockburn's size but more athletic. Hope he stays healthy this year. We've rarely had the "huge guy" at center, and to have a guy that size who's also athletic is exciting. After railing at the refs for 2 years on all the contact they allowed Edey to initiate and get away with, I just hope they stay frustratingly (for the other programs; especially one up in WL) consistent this year!

Yeah...don't get your hopes up on that. That would require Ballo committing fouls on basically every single play like Edey did. And forcing the refs to basically give up, and not call much of anything...really either way.

 

[GThomas]

I still think Gallo, if healthy, starts, at least early in the season. Should MW start Carlyle and utilize TG as a 6th-man spark? Quite possibly. But I don't see him benching a loyal 5th-year senior ... again, at least early.

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

haven't heard anything lately....what's the over/under on Ballo showing up at the TN exhib game in a boot? After all...."It's Indiana"...which means we can't start the season without at least one starter wearing the infamous IU boot.

Yep every exhibition game ifs always like 3 od the rotation players have a cold or a sore foot.

 

[kkott]

I still think Gallo, if healthy, starts, at least early in the season. Should MW start Carlyle and utilize TG as a 6th-man spark? Quite possibly. But I don't see him benching a loyal 5th-year senior ... again, at least early.

I thought that too, but the way his recovery has dragged on and his comments, and the fact that there is a lot of talk about Carlyle being so good on both ends of the floor, has me thinking maybe they have sold Gallo on being something of a "super sub" and having Rice and Carlyle start. I thought like you did that Gallo would start with how he's been loyal to his upperclassmen, but now I'm thinking Carlyle will start. Doesn't really matter, as I think Trey will be the first guard/wing off the bench and will get plenty of minutes.

I'd love to see scrimmages and how they are breaking up teams. Guessing they are mostly playing Cupps/Gallo vs Rice/Carlyle in the backcourt.

 

[iubud]

I would say you hit it on the head.

Let's see how clunky or not the two bigs play together. I think it's more about Mgbako being able to close out and defend the perimeter.

I know I'd like to see Woody pick Ballo or Reneau and go with Tucker at the 3 and Mgbako the 4.

The two big comments are dumb It has been done successfully many times here, but I don't consider Reneau a classic big. He can start his offense away from the basket and can shoot the three. He has spent the off season working to improve his perimeter offense.

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

The two big comments are dumb It has been done successfully many times here, but I don't consider Reneau a classic big. He can start his offense away from the basket and can shoot the three. He has spent the off season working to improve his perimeter offense.

I look for a huge improvement from Reneau.

 

[TR32]

if everyone is healthy:

Rice
Galloway
Mgbako
Reneau
Ballo

Off the bench:
Carlyle
Cupps
Goode
Tucker

Spot minutes:
Leal
Hatton

You have to figure either Reneau or Ballo is most often to come out first. Then they go to 3 guards.

I'm not sure if Goode will be able to play with Mgbako or not, but dual wings with a single post is not unreasonable.

Cupps will play more whenever guards are turning it over too much. Also if Woodson cant trust Carlyle late in games he will go to Cupps. Leal will play more if someone gets injured or has other problems. Carlyle will play more if Trey or Rice struggles or just for scoring. I see him being able to come in for 3 guys. Oladipo had that role in 2011.

Tucker, usually a guy ranked that high is gonna play. They don't necessarily need him right away, but if he can play, he will take minutes from other wings. Defense will get him more time, but if it turns out he can really score, then he may play the perimeter and move Mgbako to the paint on defense. But if you think about it, it is most likely that Ballo, Reneau, and Mgbako all play a lot.

If they are able to run and score, then the bigs will play slightly fewer minutes and sub for each other. That depends on being able to guard guys though, and last year they were pretty bad defensively.

 

[TR32]

The two big comments are dumb It has been done successfully many times here, but I don't consider Reneau a classic big. He can start his offense away from the basket and can shoot the three. He has spent the off season working to improve his perimeter offense.

He is a classic big in a lot of ways. Henderson, Anderson, Watford, Jeffries, Haston, Evans... all those guys scored away from the basket too. When things get gritty, Reneau scores with his baby hook move in the post.

 

[Cavanagh]

From memory, I think Ballo is one of the best PnR guys I've seen at the college level. Kofi Cockburn's size but more athletic. Hope he stays healthy this year. We've rarely had the "huge guy" at center, and to have a guy that size who's also athletic is exciting. After railing at the refs for 2 years on all the contact they allowed Edey to initiate and get away with, I just hope they stay frustratingly (for the other programs; especially one up in WL) consistent this year!

Ballo is gonna body dudes this year. Can’t wait to watch him throw the boilers ginger around like raggedy Andy

 

[kkott]

Ballo is gonna body dudes this year. Can’t wait to watch him throw the boilers ginger around like raggedy Andy

...and for them to whine about the no-calls on Ballo for doing so, after having Zack "no-call" Edey the last few years.

 

[kkott]

He is a classic big in a lot of ways. Henderson, Anderson, Watford, Jeffries, Haston, Evans... all those guys scored away from the basket too. When things get gritty, Reneau scores with his baby hook move in the post.

when I think positionally I think of D first. Reneau hasn't been a good rim protector or rebounder, which is why I'd say he's not a "classic big".

 

[Cavanagh]

when I think positionally I think of D first. Reneau hasn't been a good rim protector or rebounder, which is why I'd say he's not a "classic big".

Malik has super small hands. Tamars dad would always talk about it. “Can’t rebound cuz them hands are so small” lol

 

[Courtsensetwo]

From memory, I think Ballo is one of the best PnR guys I've seen at the college level. Kofi Cockburn's size but more athletic. Hope he stays healthy this year. We've rarely had the "huge guy" at center, and to have a guy that size who's also athletic is exciting. After railing at the refs for 2 years on all the contact they allowed Edey to initiate and get away with, I just hope they stay frustratingly (for the other programs; especially one up in WL) consistent this year!

With the national criticism the BIG officiation process received last year for what edey got away with I don't think we will see that again any time soon.

Another thought on Luke is that IMO he is a shooting role player not a starter but we shall see.

 

[kkott]

Malik has super small hands. Tamars dad would always talk about it. “Can’t rebound cuz them hands are so small” lol

I can see that being a factor, but maybe 1 or less rpg. Reanu can rebound better than he has with that body.

 

[baileyiu]

if everyone is healthy:

Rice
Galloway
Mgbako
Reneau
Ballo

Off the bench:
Carlyle
Cupps
Goode
Tucker

Spot minutes:
Leal
Hatton

You have to figure either Reneau or Ballo is most often to come out first. Then they go to 3 guards.

I'm not sure if Goode will be able to play with Mgbako or not, but dual wings with a single post is not unreasonable.

Cupps will play more whenever guards are turning it over too much. Also if Woodson cant trust Carlyle late in games he will go to Cupps. Leal will play more if someone gets injured or has other problems. Carlyle will play more if Trey or Rice struggles or just for scoring. I see him being able to come in for 3 guys. Oladipo had that role in 2011.

Tucker, usually a guy ranked that high is gonna play. They don't necessarily need him right away, but if he can play, he will take minutes from other wings. Defense will get him more time, but if it turns out he can really score, then he may play the perimeter and move Mgbako to the paint on defense. But if you think about it, it is most likely that Ballo, Reneau, and Mgbako all play a lot.

If they are able to run and score, then the bigs will play slightly fewer minutes and sub for each other. That depends on being able to guard guys though, and last year they were pretty bad defensively.

Newton will be in top nine if everyone is healthy, Cupps will drop to 10th man

 

[kkott]

Newton will be in top nine if everyone is healthy, Cupps will drop to 10th man

Not sure about that. We already have Carlyle and Galloway, 2 really good options at the 2. I think Carlyle played, at least some, PG for Stanford, but I think Cupps is the only true PG after Rice. If he has improved and has his confidence, I'm not sure Newton would jump him, just because there may be some backup PG minutes available and Cupps might be the best to fill them. I think one of the things that hurt TGs shooting last year was playing a good bit out of position running the offense, so I can still see Cupps earning minutes, not because he's "better" than Newton, but just because he's at a position more of need and the offense runs better with him there.

 

[TR32]

Newton just needs developmental minutes. If he's healthy, and that's an "if" no one seems to be sure of, he is a true rookie on the court and won't be counted on until he gets some seasoning.

With any luck, IU is good enough to put teams on ice and let Cupps, Newton and Leal run the show for the final 5 minutes.

 

[stollcpa]

You think Malik has better handles than Kanaan? Typo?

I looked at that and almost choked.

 

[Eurocyldon]

Ballo didn't sign with IU to come off the bench and IU didn't sign him to an NIL of 1 mil or more to be the backup at any point this season.
Ballo, Rice, and MM are locks to start. The rest will be figured out.

 

[namnik]

I still look for Woody to play an out if whack rotation even though this game doesent mean much other than optics.

Reneau
MgBako
Goode. (galloway not 100%?)
Carlyle
Rice

6- Ballo
7- Cupps
8- Tucker

9-10- PossiblyHatton, then Leal, minor sweat for Galloway, do not see James or Newton. Thoughts?

Would like to see a bunch of Reneau/Mgbako, Goode, and our backcourt vs Marian with Tucker & Ballo. Soooo deep. Goode helps with the Galloway & Newton question marks.

Just looking for an enjoyable game. Tickets purchased and ready to go.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

game will be on SEC network+.