If you've seen it multiple times then you've just outed yourself as a dishonest hack.
YEE OF LITTLE FAITH...BOOM!!
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If you've seen it multiple times then you've just outed yourself as a dishonest hack.
Was Thomas Ehrlich a dishonest hack? He was our president at the time.
''Coach Knight was not speaking for the university. His reference to rape and his coarse language were in very poor taste. Period. That's all I really want to say.''
You know exactly what I mean. For you to sit there and characterize what Coach said the way you have, without the context, is blatantly dishonest.
So Thomas Ehrlich was being blatantly dishonest then, the IU president when I was there the first time around. That's what you are saying?
Ehrlich said it was a crude comment. Nothing more, nothing less. Your dishonest spin is that it was a tacit endorsement of rape. You're a POS scumbag and I wouldn't be shocked if you were connected to the media in some form or fashion.
Kris did not go to UCLA because of Alford, he went there to play with pros in the summer.
Not connected to the media, just an IU alumni (twice) with a conscience. Should we get into all the quotes that other IU officials made at the time? That makes me a POS because I and so many others found it reprehensible? I forgot, we dare not say bad things about Knight or hell's fury comes down. How did you like his comments last week wishing people dead? Sorry, I have a conscience. Are you going to say that was dishonest spin? Are you going to claim Bob Knight didn't say that last week on the radio?
If you were a Penn State fan, I bet you'd be leading the charge to have a statue of Paterno even though he protected a rapist for decades because that meant he wasn't "limp-wristed."
You're pathetic.
Right, so now you're comparing Steve, who's big mistake was that he believed a kid and tried to help him, to someone who knowingly protected a man who raped innocent children.
You're unhinged.
Most fans I have talked to or saw on the message boards don't want Alford.
Wilkes won't follow him to IU because he went to UCLA for LA and not the coach. Also most fans I know don't want Alford and I sure don't.
Your analogy doesn't work. If you said you were a republican and don't like the current President then it would work. I was just hoping I didn't have to read too many more of your posts. Carry on with your trolling.
Yes, Fredrica, were you referring to Buckner? I heard Dakich tearing him a new hole.
You can try to re-write history all you want, but Alford did FAR more than just "try to help him."
Not dumb at all.
Look at all the Penn State fans who STILL worship Paterno.
Heck, look at all the Catholics who never left their church after the Vatican got busted for running the biggest kiddie rapist ring in the world.
The people who brush off this Pierce thing as "only the limp-wristed care" are the exact same type of people who don't care about those instances too.
Where did I say I wasn't a Republican? Or a Democrat for that matter? I didn't. The analogy is fine either way.
"Dishonest spin"? And someone on here has taken major exception to that statement (as anyone with any bit of morality should), you are calling HIM a POS? Wth is wrong with you???
No, the poster is comparing a person that KNEW a kid who tried to rape an innocent woman but still not only protected him but used pressure on the victim - in the name of God, no less - to someone who knowingly protected a man who raped innocent children. Seems like a fair comparison to me.....
This has been discussed on this board before, but since you asked:
"Alford again proclaimed Pierce innocent at Big Ten Media Day on Oct. 27, a week after plea bargain negotiations had started, negotiations that he was aware of and even consulted on, according to university documents."
Source: http://www.twincities.com/2013/04/10/steve-alford-new-ucla-coachs-past-raises-questions/
It doesn't take a genius to hire an elite coach. It's more likely we find out if he's an idiot and hires Alford or not.
Reading comprehension isn't your thing is it? Let me make this simple for you:
Alford was informed of the evidence during the plea bargain phase by the prosecutor.
Despite that knowledge, he publicly defended Pierce.
He was later called out for it by the prosecutor.
He was then reprimanded by the Iowa administration.
And later, he had to publicly apologize for it after being hired by UCLA.
It's not as black and white as you're making it. Bottom line is Alford could have seen the evidence, helped Pierce get the plea deal, and still in his heart have believed Pierce was innocent without having to be corrupt. I believe Pierce was probably guilty, but I'm sure he had a "story." I didn't hear it. Steve did.
Try reading it again. Maybe third time is the charm. However, I doubt you care about facts and the truth. You would rather assume the worst of a fellow alum even though there isn't any factual information to back up your claim that he knowingly supported a rapist.
The article is a fluff piece with a few quotes thrown in by White (11 years later) who also never states Alford knew Pierce was a rapist. Not to mention that White must be a god damn creep. Why would White try to make amends with a guy (Alford) who he knows defended a rapist? Either White doesn't think Alford knew Pierce was a rapist or your star witness is scumbag.
Lastly, some more deductive reasoning for you. Your claim is Alford knew that Pierce was a rapist and still defended him. However, Iowa never fired him? New Mexico and UCLA both hired him after it. So, either all 3 institutions said they are ok with employing a person who will defend a rapist (which is insane) or they came to the conclusion that Alford handled the situation poorly (which is why he apologized at Iowa and UCLA) and truly thought Pierce was innocent.
P.S. Not a thing that you posted was taken from the article. White claims that Alford knew of evidence of an assault, not rape, which I am surprised you missed with your great reading skills. Also, we have no idea what information Alford was privy to, because we only have your star witness claims who likes to buddy up with people who defend rapist.
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I'm way too late to this party, but I would be remiss if I didn't congratulate fpeaugh on hitting this one right on the head. I don't know who you know or how you know it, but congratulations!
Since its been a few days I have to ask you, what is your crystal ball telling at this moment? Who and when? Has the situation changed any?
Since its been a few days I have to ask you, what is your crystal ball telling at this moment? Who and when? Has the situation changed any?
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I'm saying, that is his comparison. If you want to argue if he knew or not, then make that point. Otherwise, you are making yourself out to be a complete moron.
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