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I heard that earlier this morning. He was under full boil and right at the same time; at one point I thought they were going to have to hit the dump button because he was on the hairy edge of swearing like a sailor.
That's also what I thought about the Capitol police when this all went down. On a normal day if you get too close to the Capitol they'll give you a warning, even if no legislators are in town. I've mentioned this before, but a deranged woman who had her 1 year old daughter in the back seat of her car drove up on a Capitol security checkpoint in 2013 and when she wouldn't stop or turn around, they shot her to death. While I'm not sure how I feel about what was probably excessive force, I've always assumed that anyone refusing to stand down while trying to trespass in places like the Pentagon, White House or the US Capitol would meet a similar fate.
One of the (many) questions I have is when was the decision made to stand back and let them in? It seems unlikely that the decision was made in real time. Alternatively, it could be that law enforcement felt so outmanned and unprepared that they felt there was no choice but to step aside. However, that leads to the question of who made the decision not to be better prepared, and why?That's also what I thought about the Capitol police when this all went down. On a normal day if you get too close to the Capitol they'll give you a warning, even if no legislators are in town. I've mentioned this before, but a deranged woman who had her 1 year old daughter in the back seat of her car drove up on a Capitol security checkpoint in 2013 and when she wouldn't stop or turn around, they shot her to death. While I'm not sure how I feel about what was probably excessive force, I've always assumed that anyone refusing to stand down while trying to trespass in places like the Pentagon, White House or the US Capitol would meet a similar fate.
It's amazing that they just let this f*ckers in the building yesterday.
Another question: There isn't a series of doors that can be locked between the exterior of the building and the inner chamber? You'd think they'd have large, ornate, THICK, METAL doors that would require an hour or two with a cutting torch or jackhammer to get through or around to buy security some time if things went sideways, you know like if the president was fomenting insurrection.One of the (many) questions I have is when was the decision made to stand back and let them in? It seems unlikely that the decision was made in real time. Alternatively, it could be that law enforcement felt so outmanned and unprepared that they felt there was no choice but to step aside. However, that leads to the question of who made the decision not to be better prepared, and why?
Of course most infuriating of all is the irrefutable fact that Dickhead Trump literally and directly instigated the violent overtaking of the Capitol Building, while both houses of Congress were inside. He told an angry mob of thousands to march to the Capitol. He knew exactly what would happen. Then he retreated to the White House and sat idly while it all unfolded. No one, no American, can plausibly deny any of this. It is undoubtedly the most heinous thing a sitting President has ever done against our country and our democracy.
One of the (many) questions I have is when was the decision made to stand back and let them in? It seems unlikely that the decision was made in real time. Alternatively, it could be that law enforcement felt so outmanned and unprepared that they felt there was no choice but to step aside. However, that leads to the question of who made the decision not to be better prepared, and why?
Of course most infuriating of all is the irrefutable fact that Dickhead Trump literally and directly instigated the violent overtaking of the Capitol Building, while both houses of Congress were inside. He told an angry mob of thousands to march to the Capitol. He knew exactly what would happen. Then he retreated to the White House and sat idly while it all unfolded. No one, no American, can plausibly deny any of this. It is undoubtedly the most heinous thing a sitting President has ever done against our country and our democracy.
I agree with all of this.One of the (many) questions I have is when was the decision made to stand back and let them in? It seems unlikely that the decision was made in real time. Alternatively, it could be that law enforcement felt so outmanned and unprepared that they felt there was no choice but to step aside. However, that leads to the question of who made the decision not to be better prepared, and why?
Of course most infuriating of all is the irrefutable fact that Dickhead Trump literally and directly instigated the violent overtaking of the Capitol Building, while both houses of Congress were inside. He told an angry mob of thousands to march to the Capitol. He knew exactly what would happen. Then he retreated to the White House and sat idly while it all unfolded. No one, no American, can plausibly deny any of this. It is undoubtedly the most heinous thing a sitting President has ever done against our country and our democracy.
It’s remarkable how unprepared many structures are for something like this. It’ll get fixed now.Another question: There isn't a series of doors that can be locked between the exterior of the building and the inner chamber? You'd think they'd have large, ornate, THICK, METAL doors that would require an hour or two with a cutting torch or jackhammer to get through or around to buy security some time if things went sideways, you know like if the president was fomenting insurrection.
Yeah, the Capital perimeter has been beefed up today. I feel better now.It’s remarkable how unprepared many structures are for something like this. It’ll get fixed now.
It’s remarkable how unprepared many structures are for something like this. It’ll get fixed now.
Every time I go into my kids’ elementary school I’m shocked that the entrance doors are all glass. They do rehearsals for reacting to active shooters and lockdowns etc and yet the freaking entrances are the most easily breached material in existence.
Like all things in life, weaknesses aren’t exposed until they’re exploited. People have this pedigreed esteem for top government agencies and agents like they are superhuman. They’re just people, man. People that make mistakes like you and I do.In a way, it's like 9/11. How on earth can any airliner crash into the Pentagon? Now we know a few hillbillies can break into the Capitol and lounge around in Congressmen's desks? My lord, The Prada store in downtown Chicago has more secure windows than what I watched in the videos from yesterday.
The more I think of it, the angrier I get. It's absolutely unacceptable.
Like all things in life, weaknesses aren’t exposed until they’re exploited. People have this pedigreed esteem for top government agencies and agents like they are superhuman. They’re just people, man. People that make mistakes like you and I do.
Nothing is safe. All we can do is make targets more difficult to attack.
It's going to be hard to defend yesterday's lack of readiness, though. Hell, I was looking at news reports Monday evening and realizing there was likely going to be trouble.Like all things in life, weaknesses aren’t exposed until they’re exploited. People have this pedigreed esteem for top government agencies and agents like they are superhuman. They’re just people, man. People that make mistakes like you and I do.
Nothing is safe. All we can do is make targets more difficult to attack.
Thankfully, you and HooDat are a growing minority in this country. Expect Trump to be put on the FBI's domestic terrorism list if he keeps doing what he's doing after he's out of office.Clown Act.
In a way, it's like 9/11. How on earth can any airliner crash into the Pentagon? Now we know a few hillbillies can break into the Capitol and lounge around in Congressmen's desks? My lord, The Prada store in downtown Chicago has more secure windows than what I watched in the videos from yesterday.
The more I think of it, the angrier I get. It's absolutely unacceptable.
I have come around to that view as well. Didn't think so yesterday. It needs to happen immediately.The more I think and read about this, Trump needs to be removed. Immediately. This is no joke.
Call me naive, but I think Pence might be willing to sign on if the Cabinet support was there. They need eight. Who you got?I have come around to that view as well. Didn't think so yesterday. It needs to happen immediately.
Agree. I think he might just be mad enough to do it. By way, anyone seen Stoll? Hope he wasn't in DC.Call me naive, but I think Pence might be willing to sign on if the Cabinet support was there. They need eight. Who you got?
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur L. Ross, Jr.
Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher C. Miller
Secretary of Education Elisabeth Prince DeVos
Secretary of Energy Dan Brouillette
Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Benjamin S. Carson, Sr.
Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt
Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao
Secretary of the Treasury Steven T. Mnuchin
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie
Saw reports that COH and a new stoker were spotted on Pennsylvania Avenue a day or two ago.Agree. I think he might just be mad enough to do it. By way, anyone seen Stoll? Hope he wasn't in DC.
stoll wouldn't be in DC for that shit. He might be on the golf course, or prepping for tax season.Agree. I think he might just be mad enough to do it. By way, anyone seen Stoll? Hope he wasn't in DC.
Call me naive, but I think Pence might be willing to sign on if the Cabinet support was there. They need eight. Who you got?
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur L. Ross, Jr.
Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher C. Miller
Secretary of Education Elisabeth Prince DeVos
Secretary of Energy Dan Brouillette
Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Benjamin S. Carson, Sr.
Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt
Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao
Secretary of the Treasury Steven T. Mnuchin
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie
Nope. Picking on CoH is one thing, but I draw the line at his stoker. There's no reason for that . . . .Saw reports that COH and a new stoker were spotted on Pennsylvania Avenue a day or two ago.
the new stoker was stoll...Nope. Picking on CoH is one thing, but I draw the line at his stoker. There's no reason for that . . . .
That would be for the House to take up when presented with the letter. Regardless, it would neuter Trump through the Inauguration.There's some open question about whether the acting secretaries can participate, and if they cannot whether the number required for a majority remains the same.
Yep.the new stoker was stoll...
I guess I was a bit too oblique for ya.
That would be for the House to take up when presented with the letter. Regardless, it would neuter Trump through the Inauguration.
I think the quote from last night about these resignations is spot on: rats leaving a sinking ship at the 11th hour are still rats.Elaine Chau resigning and others indicating the same is going to make for some interesting precedent-setting if we use section 4 of the 25th for the first time in our history now.
That's also what I thought about the Capitol police when this all went down. On a normal day if you get too close to the Capitol they'll give you a warning, even if no legislators are in town. I've mentioned this before, but a deranged woman who had her 1 year old daughter in the back seat of her car drove up on a Capitol security checkpoint in 2013 and when she wouldn't stop or turn around, they shot her to death. While I'm not sure how I feel about what was probably excessive force, I've always assumed that anyone refusing to stand down while trying to trespass in places like the Pentagon, White House or the US Capitol would meet a similar fate.
It's amazing that they just let this f*ckers in the building yesterday.
Yep. Resigning now is a meritless act. In fact, it's cowardly.I think the quote from last night about these resignations is spot on: rats leaving a sinking ship at the 11th hour are still rats.
A patriot in any of those positions would stick out the last 14 days to ensure that the government doesn't collapse.
Along those lines, I appreciated this Andy Borowitz quote posted yesterday:I think the quote from last night about these resignations is spot on: rats leaving a sinking ship at the 11th hour are still rats.
A patriot in any of those positions would stick out the last 14 days to ensure that the government doesn't collapse.
Man, I'm old . . . and you're older than I am by a good bit! Geezer . . . .I NEVER imagined that as a senior sitting in a high school classroom in 1967, I would ever witness such a demoralizing terrifying act as what occurred yesterday. Well, casting blame where it lie, I also never foreseen such a corrupt power drunk spineless and enept administration led by an insane "wanna be" dictator becoming a reality, either. I'm embarrassed for my race. I'm "more" afraid of my own race!😢
Now that there is funny . . . .Along those lines, I appreciated this Andy Borowitz quote posted yesterday:
Lindsey Graham’s rejection of Trump tonight has all the integrity of a drug dealer flushing meth down the toilet.