Will NYC elect a socialist mayor?
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His views were not challenged by the media.
Schumer and Jeffries should have endorsed a candidate. Now, whether fair or not, they are going to be tied to Mamdani. Maybe they believe in sanitation of the murder of Jews….might be a tough putt for Chuck. Maybe they believe in the communist thoughts on grocery stores.
NYPD should refuse to provide security for this douche.
The next couple decades will be fascinating. The country’s three largest cities have all charted a course of self-destruction.
Bass, Johnson and Mamdani aren’t simply bad mayors. They’re bad in a very specific direction and share a very specific grievance, oppressor/ oppressed worldview. None of them have come close to living what the average person would consider an accomplished life before becoming mayor. And that’s part of the appeal you see and not a point to be used against them.
Other Democrat’s like a Cuomo, Caruso or Vallas simply don’t share that worldview. They’ve accomplished things.
What does the Urban, suburban, rural divide look like if these cities continue to degrade? At what point do the taxpayers and business get tired of being a host to these parasites and the bottom falls out?
Republicans have warned “you’re going to scare away your tax base” for decades but I think the tipping point is much closer than Democrats realize. A few thousand indispensable people leave each of these cities and take their businesses with them and that’s it. It’s extremely fragile.
Or can they be pulled back from the brink? I used to think that a Detroit style decline was impossible with cities as entrenched as L.A. and NYC, but if you get enough leftists in one place I suppose anything is possible.
Bass, Johnson and Mamdani aren’t simply bad mayors. They’re bad in a very specific direction and share a very specific grievance, oppressor/ oppressed worldview. None of them have come close to living what the average person would consider an accomplished life before becoming mayor. And that’s part of the appeal you see and not a point to be used against them.
Other Democrat’s like a Cuomo, Caruso or Vallas simply don’t share that worldview. They’ve accomplished things.
What does the Urban, suburban, rural divide look like if these cities continue to degrade? At what point do the taxpayers and business get tired of being a host to these parasites and the bottom falls out?
Republicans have warned “you’re going to scare away your tax base” for decades but I think the tipping point is much closer than Democrats realize. A few thousand indispensable people leave each of these cities and take their businesses with them and that’s it. It’s extremely fragile.
Or can they be pulled back from the brink? I used to think that a Detroit style decline was impossible with cities as entrenched as L.A. and NYC, but if you get enough leftists in one place I suppose anything is possible.
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Schumer was not well-liked by progressives before voting to raise the debt ceiling. Now he is hated. An endorsement of Cuomo would never have helped. He likely will lose to AOC.
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NYC is gonna get so bad that Snake Bliskin is gonna get called to go in there.
The Dems want these new residents ie illegals to replace those who are leaving so they will still have representation power. I am against counting illegal residents in the census.
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Probably more likely heading towards San Francisco. The people that institute these policies will jet for new grounds in the future
And this is why I call Democrats socialists, Marv. Because a lot of them are socialists.
I fully agree with this.
But there’s also a very Trumpy vibe to this cat. Moreso than Johnson and Bass, even if they’re all of a piece. He’s far slicker in the presentation.
It’s been said here before. But this feels like further evidence that the Dems are entering their own “civil war” against the party establishment.
I haven't followed the race closely, but I listened to some analysis and they said Cuomo's main argument against Mamdani was not that he was too radical, but that he was too young and inexperienced. If that's true, it's a sign that Cuomo understood Mamdani's policies and general stance (pro-Palestine, woke, anti-ICE) are actually popular not just among a fringe of the NYC Dems, but a majority of them. Cuomo is not a socialist; he's just a typical, slimy NY politician.
In other words, if that's true, woke radicalism is not a fringe position in the Dem party, folks. Now I don't think it's as powerful as the MAGA wing of he GOP, but it's a lot more powerful and worrisome than some here want to believe.
Defend them if you think they're good policies, but stop pretending Dem radicalism is a right-wing media creation.
It's all part of the smear campaign. Anyone running against their side is a crazy far left socialist that is coming for your guns. Rinse and repeat because it works so well with people that only have 1 news source.
I'd take woke over MAGA any day of the week and twice on sunday. Not really that worrisome that it's more than just a fringe idea.
Of course, 99% of people can't even define woke other than it's encompasses everything they don't like lol.
I wonder how he did among black and hispanic voters? At one point, he was lagging with them. That would track with this.
Fascinating. The laptop class supported Mamdani even though his message is aimed largely at lower income.
I highly doubt that. Everyone predicting the end of NYC is being ridiculously hyperbolic.
No he isn’t. In what political world does a religious- driven socialist become a populist?
Havana still exists and it is a miserable place to live for the majority.
Mamdani is a canary in the coal mine. AOC, a cutsie darling of the left, gave him her full throated support. A generation ago, somebody like him leading the Democratic Party in the nation’s largest and most vibrant city was unthinkable. Now here we are. Mamdani is a product of the deviant and dysfunctional democracy Aristotle wrote about.
Even if Adams beats him in the general, we should be concerned about what this victory means for Democrats.
His socialist tendencies lean into the "stick it to the elite," which is a bedrock of populism. It was Trump's message. The elites are doing terrible things and I (Mamdani/Trump) will put an end to it.
It appears he did really well with youth and others who do not typically vote. He brought in the marginal Democrats to defeat the Democratic machine. I recall someone on the right doing that in 2016 with marginal Republicans.
Why establishment Democrats still can’t stomach progressive candidates like Zohran Mamdani | Arwa Mahdawi
The anti-Mamdani mobilization is depressingly predictable, with a party that is allergic to fresh blood and new thinking
And just to point it out, there are people much further left than Mamdani:
Communist group slams Mamdani for ‘deceiving working class,’ making ‘false promises’
The Revolutionary Communists of America ripped the Democratic Socialist mayoral candidate in an article called “Why Communists Can’t Support Zohran Mamdani.”
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Correct.
I think we're getting mixed up in some semantics here. The threat to NYC is self-inflicted decline, not apocalypse. The gradual atrophy of its muscle, not gangrene.
When somebody like this gets elected, your best hope is that they're ineffectual at implementing their agenda.
Nope. You misunderstand what appeal to ordinary people means. Yeah there are smatterings of stick it to elite, but that is by no means the bedrock principle.
Elites and wealthy are not the same thing.
Communist and far left groups are fundamentally dishonest.
Broadly speaking, and not necessarily imputing this on Donald Trump (or Zohran, for that matter), the difference between left-wing populism and right-wing populism is who comprises the elites they focus their ire on.
Is it wealthy people and corporations or is it the political, institutional, and academic class.
A generation ago someone like Trump leading the Republican Party was unthinkable. So what is your point?
I am not defending Mamdani, I would never vote for him. But he is the mirror image of MAGA
