NATO

[StollCpaGoat]

So it appears Trump didn’t destroy NATO. It was a love fest and everyone agreed to 5% except one. And he’s their “Daddy”.

So Trump haters tell me where all he screwed up in the NATO meeting.

 

[mcmurtry66]

So it appears Trump didn’t destroy NATO. It was a love fest and everyone agreed to 5% except one. And he’s their “Daddy”.

So Trump haters tell me where all he screwed up in the NATO meeting.

We’re shutting this thing down knowing we were right about it all. Well done stoll

 

[UncleMark]

We’re shutting this thing down knowing we were right about it all. Well done stoll

Monday is going to be epic. I'm taking the day off.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Monday is going to be epic. I'm taking the day off.

I’ll be shocked if half the board makes it over. Those guys needed to have it up weeks ago

 

[Univee2]

So it appears Trump didn’t destroy NATO. It was a love fest and everyone agreed to 5% except one. And he’s their “Daddy”.

So Trump haters tell me where all he screwed up in the NATO meeting.

Spain can be forgiven. They gave us The Spanish Moon.

There’s whiskey and bad cocaine
Poison get you just the same
And if that . . . That don’t. . . Kill you soon
The women will down at the Spanish Moon

 

[StollCpaGoat]

Monday is going to be epic. I'm taking the day off.

Back to NATO. Remember when you guys laughed that Merkel was laughing at Trump and he was going to blow up NATO. They tripped over each other this time to get pictures with him and curry favor.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

I’ll be shocked if half the board makes it over. Those guys needed to have it up weeks ago

Damn lawyers are the cause of it not being up and running already w @SammyJacobs. Thank yourself you sharks!

 

[iuwclurker]

And he’s their “Daddy”.

By the way, stoll, are you certain Trump wasn’t getting punked by Stephen Colbert?

 

[ulrey]

dumb

Fvck off

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

So it appears Trump didn’t destroy NATO. It was a love fest and everyone agreed to 5% except one. And he’s their “Daddy”.

So Trump haters tell me where all he screwed up in the NATO meeting.

If you notice. European leaders have learned a lot on how to deal with Trump. He’s actually willing to concede quite a bit if you shower him with praise and tell him he’s the boss.

Macron and Starmer do this to perfection.

 

[StollCpaGoat]

If you notice. European leaders have learned a lot on how to deal with Trump. He’s actually willing to concede quite a bit if you shower him with praise and tell him he’s the boss.

Macron and Starmer do this to perfection.

Play or not play they now contribute 5% to NATO up from 2%. That wouldn’t be the case without Trump.

All I am saying is love it or hate it, he does get something done and it’s not someone using an auto pen to do it.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Play or not play they now contribute 5% to NATO up from 2%. That wouldn’t be the case without Trump.

They do not. 5% is a commitment that they won’t have to meet until long after Trump is out of office.

 

[StollCpaGoat]

They do not. 5% is a commitment that they won’t have to meet until long after Trump is out of office.

I guess we will see if it ever comes to fruition. Trump certainly had a positive impact on the possibility.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

I guess we will see if it ever comes to fruition. Trump certainly had a positive impact on the possibility.

In effect is actually a 3.5% target as 1.5% of that 5% can be allocated to "defence and security-related investments".

Ie civilian infrastructure that the military may or may not benefit from.

 

[UncleMark]

In effect is actually a 3.5% target as 1.5% of that 5% can be allocated to "defence and security-related investments".

Ie civilian infrastructure that the military may or may not benefit from.

Playing a numbers game so Trump can take credit for the 5% while the NATO countries can count civilian spending in the total.

 

[StollCpaGoat]

Playing a numbers game so Trump can take credit for the 5% while the NATO countries can count civilian spending in the total.

Okay, Trump accomplished nothing. Also he didn’t do a damn thing postive in Iran.

 

[dbmhoosier]

So it appears Trump didn’t destroy NATO. It was a love fest and everyone agreed to 5% except one. And he’s their “Daddy”.

So Trump haters tell me where all he screwed up in the NATO meeting.

😄

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Okay, Trump accomplished nothing. Also he didn’t do a damn thing postive in Iran.

3.5% is still an aggressive target and getting an agreement in principle is a win.

If that stretch goal causes all NATO countries to land above 2% or 2.5% in core defense spending that’s great.

But the time horizon is too great to make necessary immediate impact on Europeans kicking into gear to fund most of Ukraine.

 

[jet812]

3.5% is still an aggressive target and getting an agreement in principle is a win.

If that stretch goal causes all NATO countries to land above 2% or 2.5% in core defense spending that’s great.

But the time horizon is too great to make necessary immediate impact on Europeans kicking into gear to fund most of Ukraine.

Is the goal of the increased spending to fund Ukraine?

 

[UncleMark]

Is the goal of the increased spending to fund Ukraine?

It's to mollify Trump.

 

[mrhighlife]

If you notice. European leaders have learned a lot on how to deal with Trump. He’s actually willing to concede quite a bit if you shower him with praise and tell him he’s the boss.

Macron and Starmer do this to perfection.

He is easy to manipulate. Is the quicker way of saying that.

 

[jet812]

It's to mollify Trump.

So it’s a win-win then, what’s wrong with that? Or another question is, who loses as a result of this agreement?

 

[iuwclurker]

Playing a numbers game so Trump can take credit for the 5% while the NATO countries can count civilian spending in the total.

The target year is 2035 if I’m not mistaken, long after the Trump Administration at the least is dead and buried.

Plus, evidently there’s vague language requiring allies to meet the 5%. That’s to give Spain an out but if Spain then also any other.

 

[UncleMark]

The target year is 2035 if I’m not mistaken, long after the Trump Administration at the least is dead and buried.

That doesn't matter, he'll still want the credit. Just like the temporary tax cuts that were passed in 2017.

 

[iuwclurker]

That doesn't matter, he'll still want the credit. Just like the temporary tax cuts that were passed in 2017.

Sure. And that’s the bone these NATO reps are giving him. Small price to pay to keep their strongest ally with Putin lurking.

 

[StollCpaGoat]

That doesn't matter, he'll still want the credit. Just like the temporary tax cuts that were passed in 2017.

When aren’t tax cut temporary?

 

[UncleMark]

When aren’t tax cut temporary?

When they're written to not expire to meet the silly 10 year projections requirement, and when you think the expiration will happen on someone else's watch.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Just another campaign promise Trump flaked on. Man, you America First isolationist types must be pissed.

 

[StollCpaGoat]

Just another campaign promise Trump flaked on. Man, you America First isolationist types must be pissed.

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