Whoops: Did we just see the beans spilled?

[CO. Hoosier]

She had to fill out an application and get approval to get the names unmasked. The only law that has been broken was the Flynn leak. So, unless, she leaked Flynn, she's okay. To investigate why/how she was approved to receive the names, would require reading the applications.

Application? So what? Who reviews the application and what metrics do they use for approval? The fact that this transcript of routine and continual Russian surveillance makes its way to the highest levels of the Obama White House strongly suggests that the Americans were identified and unmasked at lower levels. Then we have the subsequent Obama direct order expanding the distribution list of this raw data with the clearly foreseeable consequence of leaks--which is what happened.

This whole thing stinks.

 

[meridian]

You are seriously insane. Your entire existence seems to be based around LEFT vs RIGHT.

Does that surprise you? He has a binary brain! And with just 1 bit! Ask him whether he can count to 2.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Does that surprise you? He has a binary brain! And with just 1 bit! Ask him whether he can count to 2.

 

[Digressions]

Application? So what? Who reviews the application and what metrics do they use for approval? The fact that this transcript of routine and continual Russian surveillance makes its way to the highest levels of the Obama White House strongly suggests that the Americans were identified and unmasked at lower levels. Then we have the subsequent Obama direct order expanding the distribution list of this raw data with the clearly foreseeable consequence of leaks--which is what happened.

This whole thing stinks.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ump-transition-officials-sources-say.amp.html

"Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caughtup in surveillance."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/surveillance-experts-swat-down-susan-rice-unmasking-hysteria

So the answers are: Yes application, we'll have to wait and see, senior intelligence officials, and we don't know yet.

http://amp.nationalreview.com/corne...ing-scoop-we-dont-know-enough-be-outraged-yet

We will find out if she abused her power, when we find out everything else. If she did, we will then argue about the roll of those "senior intelligence officials".

 

[Digressions]

Application? So what? Who reviews the application and what metrics do they use for approval? The fact that this transcript of routine and continual Russian surveillance makes its way to the highest levels of the Obama White House strongly suggests that the Americans were identified and unmasked at lower levels. Then we have the subsequent Obama direct order expanding the distribution list of this raw data with the clearly foreseeable consequence of leaks--which is what happened.

This whole thing stinks.

Obama's expansion of the distribution list has caught more enemies of the state, than Trumps travel ban...1.

 

[Sope Creek]

Application? So what? Who reviews the application and what metrics do they use for approval? The fact that this transcript of routine and continual Russian surveillance makes its way to the highest levels of the Obama White House strongly suggests that the Americans were identified and unmasked at lower levels. Then we have the subsequent Obama direct order expanding the distribution list of this raw data with the clearly foreseeable consequence of leaks--which is what happened.

This whole thing stinks.

The unmasking hysteria is a nothingburger. Your Russia fixation is on the wrong Russia story.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

The unmasking hysteria is a nothingburger. Your Russia fixation is on the wrong Russia story.

He's gone Full Trump.

You never go full Trump.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

The unmasking hysteria is a nothingburger. Your Russia fixation is on the wrong Russia story.

I agree. Mebee you need to read more carefully. The problem with the unmasking isn't the actual act, that likely violated no law notwithstanding it was ill-advised and done for a political purpose. The problem is the leaks (a felony) and the Obama EO expanding the distribution of the products of the surveillance in such a way that leaks were foreseeable. Even Ben Rhodes, the Obama spinmeister, saw the material. Rhodes had absolutely no investigative or prosecutorial authority.

This whole thing stinks.

 

[Hoosier in Mad Town]

The unmasking hysteria is a nothingburger. Your Russia fixation is on the wrong Russia story.

Surely you can't be serious?







This is not a partisan issue. This is a violation of individual liberty issue.

 

[Digressions]

I agree. Mebee you need to read more carefully. The problem with the unmasking isn't the actual act, that likely violated no law notwithstanding it was ill-advised and done for a political purpose. The problem is the leaks (a felony) and the Obama EO expanding the distribution of the products of the surveillance in such a way that leaks were foreseeable. Even Ben Rhodes, the Obama spinmeister, saw the material. Rhodes had absolutely no investigative or prosecutorial authority.

This whole thing stinks.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...g-accusations-i-leaked-nothing-nobody-n742486

"It was not uncommon, it was necessary at times to make those requests," she said. "I don't have a particular recollection of doing that more frequently after the election."

She requested unmasked names throughout her time in the administration...not just beginning with the Trump/Russia ordeal. I'm sure that little nugget will help settle your worries! dws

 

[Sope Creek]

Surely you can't be serious?

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This is not a partisan issue. This is a violation of individual liberty issue.

From you it is solely a partisan issue, particularly since there is no acknowledgement from you regarding the rest of the issues Russia and its ties to the Trump campaign and administration present.

Without more than the nothingburger you've offered up so far, Susan Rice's unmasking of citizens, Trump adherents and otherwise, is still exactly a nothingburger. A partisan nothingburger.

 

[Hoosier in Mad Town]

From you it is solely a partisan issue, particularly since there is no acknowledgement from you regarding the rest of the issues Russia and its ties to the Trump campaign and administration present.

Without more than the nothingburger you've offered up so far, Susan Rice's unmasking of citizens, Trump adherents and otherwise, is still exactly a nothingburger. A partisan nothingburger.

If there is evidence of the collusion wiht Russia, hang them all up. There has been no evidence yet presented. There has been leaked CIA documents demonstrating how they can & do frame hacks to look like other soveriegn nations, particularly Russia.

This is not partisan. This is about the freedom of indivuals. I've also stated before, Obama just abused the infrastucture put in place by W. All of the Presidents going back to HW Bush should be in prison.

 

[Ladoga]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...g-accusations-i-leaked-nothing-nobody-n742486

"It was not uncommon, it was necessary at times to make those requests," she said. "I don't have a particular recollection of doing that more frequently after the election."

She requested unmasked names throughout her time in the administration...not just beginning with the Trump/Russia ordeal. I'm sure that little nugget will help settle your worries! dws

Let's call a grand jury and put all the Susan Rice facts before it. Any wagers on who is indicted?

 

[Ladoga]

Liar.

Put up a defense of the leaking of intelligence information rather than a personal attack. You're supposed to be a moderator here. When are you a poster and when a moderator?

 

[Sope Creek]

Put up a defense . . . rather than a personal attack.

You have no place to demand this of anyone. You're the hack who started this bullshit on this board to begin with. It's why I banned you time and time again, when I was foolish enough to be a mod here. I was correct to ban you, and would do it again over and over and over, not because of your political beliefs, but rather because you are a total asshole with no self-awareness and with no integrity.

Elsewhere you accused others here of having sold out. Let me remind you AGAIN that you're the ONLY one here who makes money shilling for one side of the political spectrum.

Everything you say here is rejectable as complete and utter bullshit.

 

[Sope Creek]

Let's call a grand jury and put all the Susan Rice facts before it. Any wagers on who is indicted?

Let's call a grand jury for Trump and his associates' dealings with Russia. Any wagers on who'll be indicted?

 

[Digressions]

Let's call a grand jury and put all the Susan Rice facts before it. Any wagers on who is indicted?

Who is Michael Flynn? I'll take Russian Money Laundering for $500, Alex.

 

[Ladoga]

You have no place to demand this of anyone. You're the hack who started this bullshit on this board to begin with. It's why I banned you time and time again, when I was foolish enough to be a mod here. I was correct to ban you, and would do it again over and over and over, not because of your political beliefs, but rather because you are a total asshole with no self-awareness and with no integrity.

Elsewhere you accused others here of having sold out. Let me remind you AGAIN that you're the ONLY one here who makes money shilling for one side of the political spectrum.

Everything you say here is rejectable as complete and utter bullshit.

Is it that much fun trolling me? And I do not get paid by any Party organization and never have. But you are so smart that you had to say that either knowing it to be false or without regard to its truth. Your an alligator - all mouth and no ears.

EDIT - to add "and never have"

 

[Sope Creek]

Is it that much fun trolling me? And I do not get paid by any Party organization and never have. But you are so smart that you had to say that either knowing it to be false or without regard to its truth. Your an alligator - all mouth and no ears.

EDIT - to add "and never have"

Never said you ever have been paid by a party organization. I said you've been a shill for one side of the political spectrum for your entire lobbying career. And that is perfectly accurate.

But you can't admit even that. You want to mislead, again . . . proof enough of my commentary about you.