Who would have ever thought

[Vern Pain]

That Men's Basketball would be the most hopeless component of IU athletics. Women's Basketball, baseball, softball, swimming, volleyball...... Everything seems to be on the upswing except for men's basketball.

My daughter showed me a tweet from Jeff Goodman saying he was at the Bloomington BW3s and that there's zero interest in the IU game there.

 

[Crossblock]

And Who would have thought that approaching the end of February, We would be counting down the days to the start of spring football practice and the Spring Game?

 

[Bucket Getter]

That Men's Basketball would be the most hopeless component of IU athletics. Women's Basketball, baseball, softball, swimming, volleyball...... Everything seems to be on the upswing except for men's basketball.

My daughter showed me a tweet from Jeff Goodman saying he was at the Bloomington BW3s and that there's zero interest in the IU game there.

I’ll take it one step further: Who would have ever thought Penn State would have a better basketball coach than IU? And that IU would have a better football coach than Penn State?

 

[birdforbogey]

Why anyone eat at bww?

 

[Vern Pain]

Why anyone eat at bww?

Goodman claims he was there to take the current pulse of IU fans. I guess he thought we'd be self loathing enough by now that we'd be hanging out at BW3s

 

[bsmitty08]

I’ll take it one step further: Who would have ever thought Penn State would have a better basketball coach than IU? And that IU would have a better football coach than Penn State?

I wouldnt go that far lol. Vignette hasn’t coached a game at Iu yet and Franklin despite underachieving is still pretty good

 

[Bucket Getter]

Why anyone eat at bww?

Wings aren’t good?

 

[kmathum]

I wouldnt go that far lol. Vignette hasn’t coached a game at Iu yet and Franklin despite underachieving is still pretty good

Franklin is NOT pretty good.

 

[Tscurlo]

Why don't we just go ahead and forfeit the last game and the B1G Tournament.

If we win... there is nothing gained. We're going to be in the bottom four of the B1G T and will probably lose the first game.

Why even bother!!!!

If I were a committed recruit.... I sure would be doing some serious consideration as to de-committing.. unless they throw some serious SEVEN FIGURE NIL $$$ AT ME!!!!

 

[bsmitty08]

Franklin is NOT pretty good.

Why you say that? Just curious? He is 21-5 the last two years. With a rose bowl win and had back to back 9 wins seasons at Vanderbilt lol

 

[kmathum]

Why you say that? Just curious? He is 21-5 the last two years. With a rose bowl win and had back to back 9 wins seasons at Vanderbilt lol

Pretty mediocre I'd say. You said it yourself. Under achieving at Penn state. They can do better.

 

[bsmitty08]

Pretty mediocre I'd say. You said it yourself. Under achieving at Penn state. They can do better.

I wouldn’t call him average though. Average coaches dont win at the clip he has. I do t think he is top level but you can’t call a guy coming from James Madison better than Franklin

 

[Bucket Getter]

I wouldn’t call him average though. Average coaches do. It win at the clip he has. I do t think he is top level but you can’t call a guy coming from James Madison better than Franklin

You realize his DC is the guy we just s-canned, right? 😂

 

[bsmitty08]

You realize his DC is the guy we just s-canned, right? 😂

Allen is a quality DC, terrible HC

 

[kmathum]

I wouldn’t call him average though. Average coaches do. It win at the clip he has. I do t think he is top level but you can’t call a guy coming from James Madison better than Franklin

I didn't say he was. Someone else did. That's TBD. Did you see our games with them the last few years? This is Penn State we're talking about.

 

[kmathum]

Allen is a quality DC, terrible HC

Is he?

 

[GeddyHoosier]

Spring soccer started today. There’s something I can get excited about.

 

[bsmitty08]

Is he?

That’s how he made his name in coaching.

 

[Vern Pain]

Allen is a quality DC, terrible HC

How many years as a P5 defensive coordinator do you base that "quality dc" statement on? One year at IU. Two at South Florida.

He was a better DC than head coach. That's not a really high bar.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

I wouldn’t call him average though. Average coaches dont win at the clip he has. I do t think he is top level but you can’t call a guy coming from James Madison better than Franklin

Actually- the guy in South Bend is a mediocre coach. Franklin is okay.

 

[bsmitty08]

How many years as a P5 defensive coordinator do you base that "quality dc" statement on? One year at IU. Two at South Florida.

He was a better DC than head coach. That's not a really high bar.

He is respected in the CFB world on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[bsmitty08]

Actually- the guy in South Bend is a mediocre coach. Franklin is okay.

9-4 and 10-3 in first two years a head coach. You may be right or wrong but I bet he wins 10+ this upcoming season

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

9-4 and 10-3 in first two years a head coach. You may be right or wrong but I bet he wins 10+ this upcoming season

With the recruiting they get, that’s underachieving. Good luck with him though.

 

[Vern Pain]

He is respected in the CFB world on the defensive side of the ball.

That's saying something different than "he's a quality defensive coordinator".

 

[bsmitty08]

That's saying something different than "he's a quality defensive coordinator".

Regardless geesh

 

[Vern Pain]

Regardless geesh

Regardless of what? You said something, I asked you what you base that on and then you start flailing. Geesh

 

[ulrey]

Goodman claims he was there to take the current pulse of IU fans. I guess he thought we'd be self loathing enough by now that we'd be hanging out at BW3s

Goodman is an arrogant ass

 

[bsmitty08]

Even funnier today

 

[Vern Pain]

Goodman is an arrogant ass

True. That said, he's the guy who in the pre season was saying that Woody looks like he thinks they're still playing 1980's basketball.

 

[VanPastorMan]

Franklin is NOT pretty good.

They are not.crazy about him here.

 

[kmathum]

They are not.crazy about him here.

I lived in Nashville when he was coaching Vandy. The guy always struck me as a colossal phoney. Maybe that's why I don't care for him.

 

[kmathum]

That’s how he made his name in coaching.

He had 1 good year as DC. He somehow parlayed that into a head coaching job. Something like that could only happen at IU.

 

[Bucket Getter]

He had 1 good year as DC. He somehow parlayed that into a head coaching job. Something like that could only happen at IU.

One good year with Wilson recruits.

 

[VanPastorMan]

I lived in Nashville when he was coaching Vandy. The guy always struck me as a colossal phoney. Maybe that's why I don't care for him.

Here it is more about living in Joe Pa's shadow.

 

[MonvalleyJ]

I’ll take it one step further: Who would have ever thought Penn State would have a better basketball coach than IU? And that IU would have a better football coach than Penn State?

IU does not have a better football coach than Penn State.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Goodman claims he was there to take the current pulse of IU fans. I guess he thought we'd be self loathing enough by now that we'd be hanging out at BW3s

Sounds about right. Why be somewhere just off campus like Buffalouies or Nick's when you can be out west at B-Dubs?

 

[kmathum]

IU does not have a better football coach than Penn State.

TBD

 

[Bucket Getter]

IU does not have a better football coach than Penn State.

There are those who might take that bet. You sure?

 

[MonvalleyJ]

There are those who might take that bet. You sure?

He wins 10 games a year and yes, he does underachieve. With that written, if the 12 team playoff system was in affect during his tenure, they would have made the cut 3 times.

Cignetti has done well at his previous stop and in no way am I saying he won't be successful at IU but he has a way to go to equal Franklin.

For the record, I grew up in 10 minutes from Pitt's campus. I despise Penn State, but he does run a good program.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

The IU basketball brand is on the brink of irrelevance. I've watched closely over the past two decades. This is the abyss.