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When they said you would own nothing they weren't kidding. Abolishing parental rights is the next goal of the Democrats. They're already removing kids from homes in Canada for child abuse if you don't support their gender change surgery.


My personal case against parental rights.

My parents according to my older brother end sister spoiled me with special attention and privlidges.

Included in the special attention were shoes and lifts designed to alter my gait from a slight pigeon toe to a duck walk starting at the age of eight.

The alteration may have been too successful according to my college football trainer. He described my right foot as being a club foot which he felt contributed to my possessing a less than remarkable running speed.

By the way, my older brother may have been shorter and fatter than I, but he sure could run fast. A gift about which he constantly reminded me.
 
I've never understood the emotional support animal. I get seeing-eye dogs, I get dogs that can sense if one's blood sugar is low (as an example). But emotional support? I don't get it.

But for what its worth, I know someone who claims their dog as an emotional support dog to fly with them (and they fly a lot). They are a Trump enthusiast. So it isn't necessarily only a crazy liberal thing though I suspect it skews more left.

But I am not a trained psychiatrist/psychologist, maybe if I were better educated on this I would get the use of emotional support pets.
Dogs do provide very good emotional support. My golden retriever goes with me everywhere in town and people love him. I am calmer with him around me, I enjoy my dog's company. My wife says I love him more than her, but she is wrong, and I explain it to her. My dog is a kind dog that loves people, he rejects most dogs because he prefers people. At the dog park, he only visits the owners and not dogs. One time a mom and dad had a two-year-old that was all over my dog, they were worried about the boy pulling his tail and I told them it would be ok, my dog just stood there letting him do it. The boy played with his face and ears along with petting his body and he just stood there enjoying the attention the boy gave him. He is very intuitive about people and barks at a few that he thinks are bad people walking by our house. He barks at two people that go by our porch and when he is outside, he only barks once to come in the house after he finishes his business.
 
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Dogs do provide very good emotional support. My golden retriever goes with me everywhere in town and people love him. I am calmer with him around me, I enjoy my dog's company. My wife says I love him more than her, but she is wrong, and I explain it to her. My dog is a kind dog that loves people, he rejects most dogs because he prefers people. At the dog park, he only visits the owners and not dogs. One time a mom and dad had a two-year-old that was all over my dog, they were worried about the boy pulling his tail and I told them it would be ok, my dog just stood there letting him do it. The boy played with his face and ears along with petting his body and he just stood there enjoying the attention the boy gave him. He is very intuitive about people and barks at a few that he thinks are bad people walking by our house. He thinks if they are not very good people, he barks at two people that go by our porch and when he is outside, he only barks once to come in the house after he finishes his business.
Totally agree. I can't imagine life without a dog (we prefer big ones). They're a lot of work as pups and always an expense, but worth every penny.

And, yeah, they're good for their humans' physical and mental health.

 


Started showing “leanings toward a feminine side” at 15 months old. Started verbalizing that she was a girl at 2.

This child was created by her parents and they should be in jail.
Do you think it's possible for someone to be genuinely transgender?
 
Do you think it's possible for someone to be genuinely transgender?
Sure.

But not prepubescent children.

They don’t know what being a man or woman is until they develop INTO a man or a woman.

And at 15 months old like this Jennings kid?

Bullshit.

Nobody believes that child was communicating unhappiness with the gender they were assigned at birth at 15 months old. It’s impossible.

So the question is, why do we pretend otherwise?
 
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Sure.

But not prepubescent children.

They don’t know what being a man or woman is until they develop INTO a man or a woman.

And at 15 months old like this Jennings kid?

Bullshit.

Nobody believes that child was communicating unhappiness with the gender they were assigned at birth at 15 months old. It’s impossible.

So the question is, why do we pretend otherwise?
She's old enough now to express regrets. I'm not at all suggesting her failure to do so acts as an endorsement, but it is informative. Specifically, it adds to our original reaction to the first story in this thread. I see some differences between how the two sets of parents are portrayed, but still some similarities of situation and timing, as well.
 
Sure.

But not prepubescent children.

They don’t know what being a man or woman is until they develop INTO a man or a woman.

And at 15 months old like this Jennings kid?

Bullshit.

Nobody believes that child was communicating unhappiness with the gender they were assigned at birth at 15 months old. It’s impossible.

So the question is, why do we pretend otherwise?
Yea, 15 months seems way too young for anyone to know with certainty (from my uninformed opinion).

Did the Jenning's kid do anything that would be considered permanent though (as in something that couldn't be easily undone)? I haven't followed along closely enough to know exactly what was done. I am assuming more than just dressing up like a girl given the reactions.

I do think there could be an argument to do something before puberty though. I am assuming that changes related to going through puberty would be hard to undo for someone that really is trans.
 
Identifying as a gender different from the sex one was physically born, although for this question, I mean honestly and genuinely. I.e., not someone who is lying, or mentally ill, or brainwashed by parents or teachers.
Just so I’m understanding…is that someone who thinks they are something they are not? Or is it someone who wants to be something they are not?
 
She's old enough now to express regrets. I'm not at all suggesting her failure to do so acts as an endorsement, but it is informative. Specifically, it adds to our original reaction to the first story in this thread. I see some differences between how the two sets of parents are portrayed, but still some similarities of situation and timing, as well.
She’s never known anything different. She has no other point of reference. She’s been told she’s a girl since she can remember.

I wouldn’t expect her to have regrets.

She doesn’t know enough about what she would have been to HAVE regrets.

Thats on the parents.

Why do we pretend like this is ok, goat?
 
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Identifying as a gender different from the sex one was physically born, although for this question, I mean honestly and genuinely. I.e., not someone who is lying, or mentally ill, or brainwashed by parents or teachers.
I am surprised more homosexuals haven't come out against transgenders since trans are really rejecting feelings of homosexuality. I don't understand the need to reject your body, which is what trans are doing, instead of accepting different feelings of attraction. I had a brother that it was clear from an early age he was probably a homosexual and as he accepted his feelings in his late teens, he started taking on some characteristics often seen in gay men. It was clear to most that met him that he was gay despite not coming out of the closet for several years into his twenties.

I take my brother's experience and say that kids early in life don't really understand the difference in sexuality, they do know the difference in gender. I see people pushing kids too fast into sexual feelings and decisions. Too many of the situations we read about and see are parents acting on their beliefs instead of allowing children to develop at their own pace. Just as young prodigies are often pushed to develop instead of letting them develop as children leading to harming the prodigy as an adult.
 
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She’s never known anything different. She has no other point of reference. She’s been told she’s a girl since she can remember.

I wouldn’t expect her to have regrets.

She doesn’t know enough about what she would have been to HAVE regrets.

Thats on the parents.

Why do we pretend like this is ok, goat?
And yet her story came into this thread by way of a right wing opinion monger implying just that - regrets. Which was my objection. I wasn't defending the parents, only attacking the ideological hack.
 
And yet her story came into this thread by way of a right wing opinion monger implying just that - regrets. Which was my objection. I wasn't defending the parents, only attacking the ideological hack.
Jazz is having some existential issues, clearly. Whether that is regrets about being molded into something Jazz wasn't born to be by Jazz's parents...time will tell on that. Eventually the cool lifestyle of having your own show and notoriety will go away and Jazz who "doesn't feel like I can be me" or however it was put is going to be facing a pretty different life.

And Justin was set on the Jazz path by parents at less than a year and a half old.
 
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I am surprised more homosexuals haven't come out against transgenders since trans are really rejecting feelings of homosexuality. I don't understand the need to reject your body, which is what trans are doing, instead of accepting different feelings of attraction. I had a brother that it was clear from an early age he was probably a homosexual and as he accepted his feelings in his late teens, he started taking on some characteristics often seen in gay men. It was clear to most that met him that he was gay despite not coming out of the closet for several years into his twenties.

I take my brother's experience and say that kids early in life don't really understand the difference in sexuality, they do know the difference in gender. I see people pushing kids too fast into sexual feelings and decisions. Too many of the situations we read about and see are parents acting on their beliefs instead of allowing children to develop at their own pace. Just as young prodigies are often pushed to develop instead of letting them develop as children leading to harming the prodigy as an adult.

Why would they come out against transgender? What they come out against is people trying to take away their rights or those that act like there is something wrong with them.

If they came out against trans for being different then that would be a bit hypocritical of them.
 
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Jazz is having some existential issues, clearly. Whether that is regrets about being molded into something Jazz wasn't born to be by Jazz's parents...time will tell on that. Eventually the cool lifestyle of having your own show and notoriety will go away and Jazz who "doesn't feel like I can be me" or however it was put is going to be facing a pretty different life.

And Justin was set on the Jazz path by parents at less than a year and a half old.
It's not clear to me that she is having any existential issues at all. It's clear to me that some people, including you (and I don't say this in an accusing manner, just reflective of your clearly-stated opinions on the topic) are inclined to assume that she would have existential issues by the very nature of her experiences as a trans person.
 
I am surprised more homosexuals haven't come out against transgenders since trans are really rejecting feelings of homosexuality. I don't understand the need to reject your body, which is what trans are doing, instead of accepting different feelings of attraction. I had a brother that it was clear from an early age he was probably a homosexual and as he accepted his feelings in his late teens, he started taking on some characteristics often seen in gay men. It was clear to most that met him that he was gay despite not coming out of the closet for several years into his twenties.

I take my brother's experience and say that kids early in life don't really understand the difference in sexuality, they do know the difference in gender. I see people pushing kids too fast into sexual feelings and decisions. Too many of the situations we read about and see are parents acting on their beliefs instead of allowing children to develop at their own pace. Just as young prodigies are often pushed to develop instead of letting them develop as children leading to harming the prodigy as an adult.

Thanks to the Cooler, did some checking about the LGBTQ community.

The homosexual folks are taking a back seat to a growing number of admitted bisexuals.

The trans crowd which seem to be getting all the cultural war hype are a minuscule number by comparison.
 
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Then why did you ask me if I thought people could be trans?
It was just a reaction to this line: "This child was created by her parents and they should be in jail."

For some people on here, a comment like that would be entirely meaningless to me, because they've already made it clear that they believe all transgenderism to be phony, brainwashing, or mental illness, so of course they would draw that conclusion. My question was just a way of asking if you were one of them.
 
I am surprised more homosexuals haven't come out against transgenders since trans are really rejecting feelings of homosexuality. I don't understand the need to reject your body, which is what trans are doing, instead of accepting different feelings of attraction.

Homosexuality and transsexuality are two different things.
 
It was just a reaction to this line: "This child was created by her parents and they should be in jail."

For some people on here, a comment like that would be entirely meaningless to me, because they've already made it clear that they believe all transgenderism to be phony, brainwashing, or mental illness, so of course they would draw that conclusion. My question was just a way of asking if you were one of them.
I don’t give a damn what adults wanna do with their lives.

Just leave the kids out of it.

It’s very understandable how the groomer label gets attached to people like that and it’s even more understandable why they hate it so much.
 
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No. Your dichotomy (trichotomy?) does not follow necessarily from my definition at all, unless you are using words to mean something other than they normally do.
“Identifying as a gender different from the sex one was physically born”
Thinking (or saying) you are something you are not.
 
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