United Airlines ad fame trans flight attendant dies by suicide, leaves note saying 'Sorry I could not...'
'To those that I love, I am sorry I could not be stronger,' read a suicide note left by Kayleigh Scott. , World News, Times Now
What’s wrong with people?
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Anybody familiar with medical/scientific ethics here? I wonder how many scientific discoveries are made where the scientists are truly conflicted about the path forward wtih the knowledge resulting from whatever experiments, trials, etc. they were working on.
We split the atom and the consequences have been.....mixed.
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I'm familiar enough with the history of science to know that humans don't just stop investigating or tinkering with something. If it can be done, somebody will probably do it.
I've seen Angels and Demons, the Tom Hanks film, a couple times, to know that this is a correct statement.
Right there is the bottom line. This trans was accepted by popular culture and still could not get rid of the demons. This is an example why we must stand up for the children the trans/leftists are coming after. If you have a community where 40% kill themselves and perhaps 90% think about doing it then there is something very dark going on with them. They are mentally ill. Yet the left says the most loving thing to do is to just support their delusion. These people are precious to God and should be precious to us. They need help and obviously getting surgeries and taking drugs are not the answer because people who transition are still killing themselves.United Airlines ad fame trans flight attendant dies by suicide, leaves note saying 'Sorry I could not...'
'To those that I love, I am sorry I could not be stronger,' read a suicide note left by Kayleigh Scott. , World News, Times Nowwww.timesnownews.com
So, I'm looking at some flights this morning. Maybe I have missed it before, but when did they start posting emissions? Ohhhh damn that flight uses 100 kg more emissions but its 200 bucks cheaper. Do people really pay attention to that?
Satan is alive and well Van. Maybe if churches quit watering down the word of God and told it like it was people might pay attention again OR not. Anything other than the truth is a waste of time. There is a hell and there is a lake of fire. Maybe if these people realized that they might change their ways. Not everyone, but some. Who preaches that anymore? No church I know of. These huge churches that you see didn't get there preaching that. They tell people what they want to hear. Its like a social gathering these days. People don't wanna hear Gods word look at this board? When it comes up you try and show people the gospel. Whoa is me if I don't.
I agree though surgeries and drugs are not the answer. And when you speak of delusion...Left or Right they don't know any better. 1st words out of Satans lips were questioning Gods word. Look at all the tools he has now, music, radio, TV, social media, the internet, yada yada. That falling away? Its here. AI is here talk about delusion...If you figure out a way through let me know.
At this point, Biden has no idea what he's saying - he's just saying what his handlers tell him to say.
"Shape our nation's soul" my ass.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that all Americans help shape our nation's soul?
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I don't know. What does any platitude mean? I'm assuming the people who are upset about it have some idea in their minds about what it refers to.
It's not banned in any countries. The 3 countries that have made changes are the UK, Sweden and Finland.
We can leave the UK out for now, it is a complete mess and Brexit, which was obviously going to hurt the UK badly, has been worse than imagined they are economically and politically irrelevant right now.
Finland has been reviewing and updating all their rules and have put a temporary halt on everything while new legislation is drafted. Not sure which way they are heading.
Sweden is the most high profile case and the reasons for the change isn't because they don't believe in the therapy. Sweden has been one of the most progressive countries in this area. In 1972 they made all the aspects of transitioning covered under the national healthcare program. It has been widely accepted since and basically a none issue until recently. Since the late 90's Sweden has averaged about 300-400 cases a year.
In 2022 they had 800+ people applying for treatment. This is double the average so they decided that they needed to investigate why there was such a sudden increase. So the Karolinska hospital limited the cases for those under 18 until they can determine why the sudden increase in applications has occurred in a place where it has been widely accepted for decades.
There is some belief that the increase in ASD may be a contributing factor and it needs more research. The two groups where the increase is coming from is a large increase in female to male and people pursuing treatment after the onset of puberty. They don't feel like they have an understanding of why these groups have seen the most change.
There is no push to stop these transitions, only to make sure they are being handled in the right way and helping the right people. This will all be determined within the medical community and not the political one as it should be. Here are the key changes from the Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare, it seems like a reasonable approach (although leaves a lot of questions still open):
Key Changes in the Updated Guidelines
'Following a comprehensive review of evidence, the NBHW concluded that the evidence base for hormonal interventions for gender-dysphoric youth is of low quality, and that hormonal treatments may carry risks. NBHW also concluded that the evidence for pediatric transition comes from studies where the population was markedly different from the cases presenting for care today. In addition, NBHW noted increasing reports of detransition and transition-related regret among youth who transitioned in recent years.NBHW emphasized the need to treat gender dysphoric youth with dignity and respect, while providing high quality, evidence-based medical care that prioritizes long-term health. NBHW also emphasized that identity formation in youth is an evolving process, and that the experience of natural puberty is a vital step in the development of the overall identity, as well as gender identity.
In light of above limitations in the evidence base, the ongoing identity formation in youth, and in view of the fact that gender transition has pervasive and lifelong consequences, the NBHW has concluded that, at present, the risks of hormonal interventions for gender dysphoric youth outweigh the potential benefits.
As a result of this determination, the eligibility for pediatric gender transition with puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones in Sweden will be sharply curtailed. Only a minority of gender dysphoric youth—those with the “classic” childhood onset of cross-sex identification and distress, which persist and cause clear suffering in adolescence—will be considered as potentially eligible for hormonal interventions, pending additional, extensive multidisciplinary evaluation.
For all others, including the now-prevalent cohort of youth whose transgender identities emerged for the first time during or after puberty, psychiatric care and gender-exploratory psychotherapy will be offered instead. Exceptions will be made on a case-by-case basis, and the number of clinics providing pediatric gender transition will be reduced to a few highly specialized centralized care centers.'
I get why people are concerned (although it has been blown completely out of proportion) and I have certainly seen cases that look pretty shocking, but in the end I am not even remotely qualified to opine with any real knowledge or understanding of the issues.
As long as it remains in the political realm, it will be difficult to make any real progress in the US.
Next stop on the perverted crazy train of Satan.
And 20 years from now.....
We all have the right to make love to who we want to....... including children!
Where the Dems are headed next.....is why they are currently trying so hard to sexualize elementary children.
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You’re not remotely qualified to opine on this issue because you seem to have some issue understanding what words mean. To put a temporary halt to this stuff is to stop, IE BAN, it. You can say it’s only until they figure out what’s going on, but that’s still banning it until then.
You say there is “no push” to stop these transitions when that’s LITERALLY what they are doing.
Whether it’s because they don’t understand what’s happening or they don’t think the benefits outweigh the risks, the end result is the same. They are moving away from allowing puberty blockers to be prescribed to kids, which is EXACTLY what I said.
To be honest, either reason is scary enough. Either reason is enough to make one question why it was started in the first place.
He is right. They do shape our soul...I mean, not for the better IMO, but they are definitely one of the groups shaping things at the moment.
You are a religious guy, by the time you get to the end of the book they give you an idea of the type of place it will be. Only supposed to get worse.
If that's true, then it's ridiculous to point out one group as shaping our nations 'soul'.
What a ridiculous statement.
They don't shape my soul and the nation doesn't have a soul. It's word salad to try to make them look righteous.
Oh I know what Joe was doing but let's say a country has a moral fabric. People will view that fabric differently, but if you are someone from one of the 3 major Abrahamic religions, the Trans movement is definitely having an impact on the moral fabric (soul) of the nation and for most of the adherents it is negative.
Think of everything that has been turned on its head to celebrate (not tolerate, celebrate) these people. I think the U.S. collectively lost its mind sometime in the past decade.
I tolerate them. I don't accept or celebrate. The argument has moved from tolerance to celebration over my lifetime.
Tolerate: allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.
Accept: believe or come to recognize (an opinion, explanation, etc.) as valid or correct.
Celebrate: honor or praise publicly.
The entire month of June is spent doing the latter as the rainbow people are shoved down everyone's throat (moreso than usual) and you get the side eye if you don't acknowledge how awesome they are for sexual decisions.
Right!! Celebrate me!! The mailman trucks. The guys who work sixty hours a week, pay a shit ton of child support, and go to bed alone, having outlived their attractiveness. When’s that month?
You wanna hear that? I have no problem. The world needs to hear it more. Van mentioned something yesterday and I answered about a watered down word. Nothing has changed regarding God's word its just man who changes it. End of the book. Here ya go.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
There is NO PLACE in God's kingdom for any of this crap. While I'm far from perfect I try to improve daily. But you cannot live in sin and expect to get anywhere except hell to await judgement and then your final destination that lake which God just described.
Have a great day IUC
Edit and I'm sure some will mock. I've been mocked plenty about a lake of fire. When that happens I walk people outside and point at the sun and ask. What's that? Peace
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When do the cougs get their day? They’re fighting battles gays can’t even contemplate
I know that is kind of a joke but seriously, if I was a woman who had to have periods my entire life, go through child birth, menopause, etc. and some joker like Dylan Mulvaney was getting celebrated for being a "woman" and I was being referred to as a birthing person, I would be pissed.
How many trannies do you see with who saved who paws on their cars. Not nearly as many as cougs who are at least one out of three
I agree with the country losing it's mind - that's demonstrably true.
I just don't think there is a collective soul. Sure, the alphabet culture influences beliefs and behaviors. I guess if you want to call that a 'soul', you could.
I understand what you're saying, though.
Maybe they kill themselves in part because they are not considered precious at all by so-called Christians who call them an "it" and will never accept them as human beings. You will accept them only if they conform to your vision of what you think they should be and look like.
POINT: You are at the very center of the problem.
