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Good Troy was fun to watch. Problem was, bad Troy was coming down the court on the very next play. He played for the wrong coach...the last thing Troy needed was a coach whose idea of coaching was yelling "faster!" the entire game. Plus, and already forgot the kid's name (4 star recruit, big kid from Wisconsin who transferred after only a semester) but I thought the rumor was that they were roommates and Troy basically hot boxed him right out of Bloomington ...?
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The most frustrating player I've watched. You'd go from wildly sheering to cursing his dumb ass in under 1.4 seconds.
Gonna be hard for Woody to screw up this team. But it's possible.
You constantly talk Purdue. It gets old. Take that BS to G&B. Your act is tiring.
Ya, and it’s about time we were doing it regularly. Starting this year.
Nope. You just like Purdue's program. That's fine, they do fairly well.
Again…I am an IU fan. I just appreciate how Painter built his program the last few years. If you like Woody’s way better than painter, so be it. I enjoy seeing Indiana kids at Indiana and not Purdue.
He always tried to recruit the best. One easy example is Shawn Kemp. When he turned IU down, IU settled for Matt Nover. By his senior year Nover was really good but he wasn't plan A
For the 100th time...he didn't "build a program" in the last few years. He had a 7'4", once in a generation unicorn type talent, take his solid program to levels Painter had never seen before. Painter deserves credit for helping Edey develop. He deserves credit for fostering an environment that compelled Edey to stay at Purdue for 4 years. But "pre Edey", Painter didn't really accomplish anything more than the 3-4 failed IU coaches did during the same time span.
If we're going to get a hard on for a different program, lets pick Kansas, or Jay Wright Villanova, or UConn... Or maybe lets just be a better version of IU. Purdue has never been, and never will be, a better version of IU.
I never said anything about Woody. Different topic.
I don't want to be Purdue. And they're not landing any good Indiana kids. You got Ertel, so you can enjoy that.
There are a lot of programs better than IU, yet you pick Purdue to obsess over. That's telling.
No I talk about them because they are here in the state doing better than we are with less talent because Painter builds a team. Woody hasn’t grasped that yet. And who is Ertel?
you keep saying that about Edey but hell they about went to final four with Carson Edwards and going 56-17 those two years.
Go back and look...Pre Edey...they weren't really any better than IU was the last 20 years, in terms of actual accomplishments. And IU has had 4 mediocre coaches, and a serial cheater. Outside of Edey, Purdue has been what Purdue has always been. I suspect they'll get back to that now that Edey is gone.
Just because IU has struggled to find the right coach, doesn't mean we should EVER strive to be like Purdue.
Ok..again I’m not talking exactly on national titles etc..
No reason IU cannot win the way PU has won. Consistent top of the conference performer, while doing it with system guys and development style kids.
On paper IU should be waaaay better than PU this year. Is that going to happen?
That’s not true at all. Purdue is still doing Purdue things. Getting mid to low level guys. IU always got top talent but had a coach who knew how to get that talent to mesh.(knight) In no way is painter and Purdue comparable. Good or bad. Purdue is unique right now. Now can we/you stfu about Purdue?
Can you not have a discussion about basketball without being a cocksucker?
And Matt Nover, Alford, Jadlow, Meijer, Eyl, Sloan…those guys coming to IU now or PU?
Knight got the “best” kid from Indiana he wanted. Not every kid or just any kid. He lost a few too. Painter isn’t getting those kids. Neither are we. ND is an outlier in this cycle too. We got one tp 50ish kid and Purdue got a nobody.
The only one sucking cock is you. You bend down to Purdue constantly and nothing i said should hurt you this bad. Just stfu about Purdue. You get the tag rightfully so.
I'm talking about competing for National Titles. That's what IU's capacity is. Why "lower" that?
Also, its VERY possible this "Purdue Method" you're dripping over will be obsolete here in about 7-8 months. Painter changes his styles and philosophies all the time. Its actually one of the things I admire about him most. I suspect he'll have a team with 2-3 transfers next year, and he'll just say they fit, and they were always Purdue players...something like that. And they'll win 23 games, finish in the top 4 of B10, and lose early in the NCAA. All will be back to normal.
Again, in more ways than just winning games, Edey has been everything for that program. They're now facing the real world, and the real NIL markets... I'm sure Painter will adjust, and they'll be solid. But he won't be Final Four competitive recruiting and building rosters how he currently is. Solid, sure. Final Four good, very unlikely.
So here's a question. You use them as an example of what IU should be. Hypothetically, say IU wins the B1G by multiple games, wins the BTT, and then flames out in an FDU type debacle. One year removed from flaming out to a St Peters type team. I don't picture you saying "great season Woody". Am I not correct? That's actually kind of a rhetorical question.
They're probably going to UCONN, but they're not going to Purdoo.
valid, although with RMK/daddy history that is a special circumstance.
As for Kemp...he was prop 48, wouldn't have played the first year, and likely would have bailed for the draft anyways. And after the events during his brief stay in Lexington, I'm very glad he never did come to IU.
Although it is scary to think....a team that could have had Kemp, Cheaney, Jay Edwards, plus the Grahams...Damon...Eric Anderson in 1990-1991. Or the following year, loses Jay but add Alan Henderson.
Who the hell would want to be purdoo? Deep down in his soul on a quiet night in west laffy when there's time to reflect, even @bsmitty08 wishes purdoo wasn't purdoo.
Yeah, I suppose so. There were lots of great Indiana players who chose other locations though. David Magley and Leroy Sutton from South Bend. Dan Palombizio chose PU over IU. BTW, not saying "Beez" would have been great at IU, just saying he missed on plenty of In State guys.
UConn's getting better talent than that, and the portal and NIL make it a moot point. But, there's not a guy there I believe the current version of UConn would recruit.... maybe Alford if they really valued him as a shooter.
Beez was a bit of a head case. Story was during end of Sr year at BSU, game starting vs Miami OH, he mouthed off to Ron Harper (the Senior) about who should be the real MAC POY. Harper looked at him and said something to the effect of " ok....game on"....Harper goes off for triple double, 38 points, 19 rebounds and 12 assists. Shut Beez up before halftime. (even though I think BSU actually won the game in OT).
He always seemed out of place playing for Keady. Not sure he would have faired any better with RMK.
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