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First (2nd) Portal addition coming?...

If Coach DeVries knows or thinks a kid will be beneficial to the TEAM then I would guess IU would offer the kid what they feel that kid’s worth is. Most of the top rated kids aren’t going to fit in the new system/culture. I’m sure IU has learned that paying the biggest top dogs doesn’t always pan out to reach the TEAM goals.


That makes no sense. Dix and Cronwell are top 10 portal guys. DeVries must have felt they would fit here.

Plan A is bring players with you

Plan B is bring recruits with you.

Plan C is keep some of the present players

Plan D is get the best recruits out of the portal you can afford

Plan E is to offer the best uncommitted HS players

We'll be going to Plan F soon.
 
That makes no sense. Dix and Cronwell are top 10 portal guys. DeVries must have felt they would fit here.

Plan A is bring players with you

Plan B is bring recruits with you.

Plan C is keep some of the present players

Plan D is get the best recruits out of the portal you can afford

Plan E is to offer the best uncommitted HS players

We'll be going to Plan F soon.
I said “most”
 
If you were the AD, and felt that most of the top portal guys would not be interested in playing for Devries, wouldn't you hire McCollum instead? He has a significantly better record of winning with mediocre players.
Where do you get the idea that most of the top portal guys aren't interested in playing for DeVries? We literally just hosted two top 10 transfers last night and are expected to host Flory Bidunga sometime this week who is a top 15 portal guy? On top of bringing in another top 10 portal guy in his son Tucker.

McCollum has one player signed, a guy he brought over from Drake. That's it.
 
Where do you get the idea that most of the top portal guys aren't interested in playing for DeVries? We literally just hosted two top 10 transfers last night and are expected to host Flory Bidunga sometime this week who is a top 15 portal guy? On top of bringing in another top 10 portal guy in his son Tucker.

McCollum has one player signed, a guy he brought over from Drake. That's it.


I was directly replying to Banners email....that was his argument. Congrats to Coach for recruiting his son.
 
Where do you get the idea that most of the top portal guys aren't interested in playing for DeVries? We literally just hosted two top 10 transfers last night and are expected to host Flory Bidunga sometime this week who is a top 15 portal guy? On top of bringing in another top 10 portal guy in his son Tucker.

McCollum has one player signed, a guy he brought over from Drake. That's it.
This stuff is definitely not for the faint of heart. Or for the people who think information or context is to be had. Or for the people who think there is necessarily meaning to the things conventional wisdom says are meaningful.
 
17 of the top 50 on 247 have already committed. Iowa got the #1 guy, UCLA the #2. And Purdue and Michigan already have top 20ish guys.

Devries wasn't my guy, and I'm already having Archie flashbacks. No players came with him from WV. All this top secret bullshit about the staff. Problems assembling what appears to be a mediocre staff. No public appearances.

He's apparently struck out on his first 2 options. And Enright prefers Iowa? Wtf. Can we at least get the big guy?
Maybe Enright views himself as more of a system guy, a valuable piece to help his team in whatever role necessary?


If you were the AD, and felt that most of the top portal guys would not be interested in playing for Devries, wouldn't you hire McCollum instead? He has a significantly better record of winning with mediocre players.
No, not if that isn’t your model. I could see Iowa hiring more of a system guy, winning with more “mediocre” players, and trying to build Iowa up like a Wisconsin type.

IU (admin, even some fans) may feel that Wisconsin type program is the bare bones floor for IU. That IU with all their NIL resources should be able to plug a coach in, and have a top 5 ceiling. Basically, be a top 5 spend team, and worse case you have seasons like a PU or Wisconsin, with that high ceiling. In other words, don’t bring in more of a system guy like McCollum, a guy that will do more with less.

It’s a different model than a PU or Wisconsin, and it’s made infinitely easier with NIL and the portal. It’s basically Kentucky under Cal on steroids. Out spend, out talent, the cream (and crimson) always rises to the top.

When it’s all said and done we will have a team much, much, much more highly paid than Iowa.
 
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If you were the AD, and felt that most of the top portal guys would not be interested in playing for Devries, wouldn't you hire McCollum instead? He has a significantly better record of winning with mediocre players.
I’m guessing Dolson chose DeVries because he liked his “style”, and DeVries was equally interested in bringing his “style” to IU. It sounds like Dolson was interested in McCollum at one point, but the interest at that time was not mutual.
My point is that “most” of the top rated portal guys are only in it for the $. I don’t believe DeVries will be interested in those guys…nor should he be if he is trying to build a new culture of TEAM first. Just have to trust the guy if he’s the coach. Hopefully it doesn’t backfire again like it did with Woodson.
 
Where have they committed? Oh wait nowhere yet
Think only 2 of his WVU commits reopened and 1 stuck with WVU. Coyle had Alex Lasley on today and he said Dix is completing his visit today and Enright is on campus today. So that means the Iowa folks are hand-wringing that he didn't commit before leaving Iowa City and is in Btown today.
 
It sounds like Dolson was interested in McCollum at one point, but the interest at that time was not mutual.
I've not seen any credible reporting about anything related to the coach search process, including who was interested in IU and how and who Dolson targeted.
 
I don’t think CDD will waste too much time on players who have one foot out the door. I would love to have MR back to finish out his career as a Hoosier but if he’s gone, he’s gone. I am really getting excited about CDD and the type of team he is seeking. I’m getting 90’s IU vibes.
I really hope you mean early 90s…and ONLY early 90s.
 
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I've not seen any credible reporting about anything related to the coach search process, including who was interested in IU and how and who Dolson targeted.
Goodman said Dolson talked to McCollum twice, or more than once, or something, so I'd not say McCollum wasn't interested, or he'd not have had a 2nd conversation.
 
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Goodman said Dolson talked to McCollum twice, or more than once, or something, so I'd not say McCollum wasn't interested, or he'd not have had a 2nd conversation.
Goodman wasn't proven to be accurate multiple times (not restricted to the IU search); at a minimum, he never shared enough context to assess what was really going on in the process.
 
Goodman wasn't proven to be accurate multiple times (not restricted to the IU search); at a minimum, he never shared enough context to assess what was really going on in the process.
@kkott Not shooting at you with this, there's just been so much contradictory information. That alone tells you people were misinformed with their reporting.

When did IU first make contact with Devries and when did IU get serious about him as their next coach?
 
Think only 2 of his WVU commits reopened and 1 stuck with WVU. Coyle had Alex Lasley on today and he said Dix is completing his visit today and Enright is on campus today. So that means the Iowa folks are hand-wringing that he didn't commit before leaving Iowa City and is in Btown today.
Odih and MacLean de-committed instantly from WVU and Hawthorne de-committed about a week later. Hawthorne is the higher rated of the 3 and just today put out a final list with Kentucky, West Virginia, Dayton, and IU. Hawthorne was a 300 rated recruit coming into the season before blowing up at prep school and has obviously gotten more attention since then. Makes sense that he's taking his time and re-evaluating his decision.
 
I’m guessing Dolson chose DeVries because he liked his “style”, and DeVries was equally interested in bringing his “style” to IU. It sounds like Dolson was interested in McCollum at one point, but the interest at that time was not mutual.
My point is that “most” of the top rated portal guys are only in it for the $. I don’t believe DeVries will be interested in those guys…nor should he be if he is trying to build a new culture of TEAM first. Just have to trust the guy if he’s the coach. Hopefully it doesn’t backfire again like it did with Woodson.
The problem is we will need 11 players and so far got none. It could backfire who knows. That is the risk you take on a guy who really is not proven on the P5 level yet
 
Dolson said he wanted someone who knew how to navigate the portal. Well so far its not a great beginning.
Kind of hard to sell recruits when there are no players on the roster. But IU went the mid major route and assumed the risk of a coach being in over his head.
 
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Goodman wasn't proven to be accurate multiple times (not restricted to the IU search); at a minimum, he never shared enough context to assess what was really going on in the process.
I agree Goodman isn't 100% reliable, but he knows more than the internet experts here. I'm just saying 2 conversations indicates to me McCollum didn't reject IU out of hand. No idea when we contacted Devries. I 1000% don't buy that CDD shut his son down, or that there was anything "inked" much before the last week of the season. My guess is Dolson took note in the Bahamas where IU stunk and WVU impressed and reached out around the time of CMWs announcement and they talked remotely in the weeks after that and then met and finalized things after WVU was eliminated from the B12 tourney.
 
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I didn't say they had...
But you said it is unusual that 0/3 have followed, when there is zero evidence that that ends up being true. How many X recruits have committed to Texas? How many Drake recruits have committed to Iowa? Can we wait until they decide before we start to panic that they have not committed here yet? Maybe, just maybe, CDD thinks he can get better guys at IU than the kids that committed to him at WV and wants to see who we get after the 1st portal wave subsides and then he can see what needs he needs filled and he uses HS kids for that.
 
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I agree Goodman isn't 100% reliable, but he knows more than the internet experts here. I'm just saying 2 conversations indicates to me McCollum didn't reject IU out of hand. No idea when we contacted Devries. I 1000% don't buy that CDD shut his son down, or that there was anything "inked" much before the last week of the season. My guess is Dolson took note in the Bahamas where IU stunk and WVU impressed and reached out around the time of CMWs announcement and they talked remotely in the weeks after that and then met and finalized things after WVU was eliminated from the B12 tourney.
I hear you, but (1) I can't tell you how low a bar I think "the internet experts here" are; (2) the inability to give any context is a tell on the shallowness of any purported "reporting"; (3) I don't agree that we know "Dolson had 2 conversations with McCollum", especially if we don't know when, what, how those conversations occurred, who else Dolson "talked to", etc.

I wouldn't know, but I doubt that Dolson started thinking about Dolson a week or so before he was announced. If I'm right, most of the reporting (including by Goodman) was uninformed and basically wrong.
 
But you said it is unusual that 0/3 have followed, when there is zero evidence that that ends up being true. How many X recruits have committed to Texas? How many Drake recruits have committed to Iowa? Can we wait until they decide before we start to panic that they have not committed here yet? Maybe, just maybe, CDD thinks he can get better guys at IU than the kids that committed to him at WV and wants to see who we get after the 1st portal wave subsides and then he can see what needs he needs filled and he uses HS kids for that.
And even if none of the three follow, that doesn't necessarily mean anything either.

None of this is a defense of Devries. It's a defense of knowing what you're talking about.
 
Dolson said he wanted someone who knew how to navigate the portal. Well so far its not a great beginning.
We have literally had 2 visits--both last night, realx, there are about 1700 kids in the portal as of today, and guessing we may see another 3-500 before it is all said and done. If CDD just started offering anyone and everyone to fill a roster I would be more worried.
 
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