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Vindman

Here you go again. The msm has you hypnotized. Vindman was a POS liar. He condemned himself and should be in prison for it along with Schiff.

 
Here you go again. The msm has you hypnotized. Vindman was a POS liar. He condemned himself and should be in prison for it along with Schiff.

New York Post. 🤣

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Facts be damned … publish or perish … applies even more for click-bait … than academics
 
Here you go again. The msm has you hypnotized. Vindman was a POS liar. He condemned himself and should be in prison for it along with Schiff.


Figured it would trigger the idiots. Very predictable.

Prison? Very Putinesque of you. Why not just shoot him? He "condemned" himself. Lol.
 
So you are claiming Vice falsified an interview/Q&A?
No, but did you read the questions? Basically consisted of “why is Trump evil” and “how is he at fault here”.

I mean, the man is suing Trump. What do you expect him to say?

Also on the Vice homepage right now-

The benefits of using psychedelic drugs to get closer to your partner and advice on living a polyamorous lifestyle-meeting your husbands pregnant girlfriend.

Vice is a joke. Everything about Vice is a joke.
 
Your the triggered idiot. You read an article by Vice an attempted Q&A from one of the biggest liars on the planet who's already been proven wrong and believe it? Hahahahaha LMAO

You're*....

Triggered? Do you understand the meaning of the word? You are a flaming example.
 
Vindman? For Pete’s sake he is a Democratic Anti-Trump political operative; and not a very good one at that. Trump enabled Putin to start this war? Is this the same Trump who unleashed US energy on the world depressing the price of Russian oil? The same Trump who ended the missile treaty Putin conspicuously violated with no response from Obama? The same Trump who killed Russian mercenaries in Syria? The same Trump who blew up Putin’s favorite Middle East gangster?

Biden’s incremental response to Putin is timid and weak. Putin owns Biden, probably in ways we don’t even know about. Putin exploited Biden’s obsession with poll numbers and green energy and thought that Russian energy supply would give him a pass. Well, guess what? The Germans, to the amazement of everyone showed up Putin in ways that make Biden look like the biggest fool in the free world. Germany is full speed ahead on doing what Trump suggested 4years ago.

But keep posting this pathetic Vindman-never-Trump BS. This whole Russia/energy/Ukrainian mess shows one more thing Trump got right.
 
I'm extremely uncomfortable with Vindman to the point that I believe he is treasonous. He is parroted on media with no disclosure of the fact that he is a Ukranian citizen and may currently be working for the Ukranian government. He is spreading all kinds of bologna on social media, such as that Gerasimov was fired about 2 minutes after Putin met with him. Completely unsubstantiated and false rumors. We may be on the cusp of nuclear war if our official were listening to Vindmans advice because he is working from a position of Ukraine. He would happily have American troops on the ground in Kiev.

And if I'm not mistaken he was at one point about to be the Ukrainian minister of defense and may have been sharing classified information with the Ukranians. This is another case in point why dual nationality is so dangerous.
 
Vindman? For Pete’s sake he is a Democratic Anti-Trump political operative; and not a very good one at that. Trump enabled Putin to start this war? Is this the same Trump who unleashed US energy on the world depressing the price of Russian oil? The same Trump who ended the missile treaty Putin conspicuously violated with no response from Obama? The same Trump who killed Russian mercenaries in Syria? The same Trump who blew up Putin’s favorite Middle East gangster?

Biden’s incremental response to Putin is timid and weak. Putin owns Biden, probably in ways we don’t even know about. Putin exploited Biden’s obsession with poll numbers and green energy and thought that Russian energy supply would give him a pass. Well, guess what? The Germans, to the amazement of everyone showed up Putin in ways that make Biden look like the biggest fool in the free world. Germany is full speed ahead on doing what Trump suggested 4years ago.

But keep posting this pathetic Vindman-never-Trump BS. This whole Russia/energy/Ukrainian mess shows one more thing Trump got right.
Democratic operative? Dunno where that comes from? He reports to the Ukranian govt!
 
Vindman? For Pete’s sake he is a Democratic Anti-Trump political operative; and not a very good one at that. Trump enabled Putin to start this war? Is this the same Trump who unleashed US energy on the world depressing the price of Russian oil? The same Trump who ended the missile treaty Putin conspicuously violated with no response from Obama? The same Trump who killed Russian mercenaries in Syria? The same Trump who blew up Putin’s favorite Middle East gangster?

Biden’s incremental response to Putin is timid and weak. Putin owns Biden, probably in ways we don’t even know about. Putin exploited Biden’s obsession with poll numbers and green energy and thought that Russian energy supply would give him a pass. Well, guess what? The Germans, to the amazement of everyone showed up Putin in ways that make Biden look like the biggest fool in the free world. Germany is full speed ahead on doing what Trump suggested 4years ago.

But keep posting this pathetic Vindman-never-Trump BS. This whole Russia/energy/Ukrainian mess shows one more thing Trump got right.

This was basically a troll post, as I figured it would trigger a lot of the usual suspects. And this is an entirely unserious board that borders on parody, most days.

Didn't disappoint. I don't give a shit about Vindman.
 
...no disclosure of the fact that he is a Ukranian citizen and may currently be working for the Ukranian government.
Pure ignorance. You fall for the effort of Trump’s supporters to misconstrue and misrepresent Vindman’s origin story.

The Vindmans emigrated from the Soviet Union, not Ukraine. They were Ashkenazi Jews from a majority-Russian-speaking Soviet city. He was born in Kiev, yes, then part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine did not exist as a free country until 12 years after they left, and so he never held "Ukrainian citizenship".

In the 70s some Soviet Jews were allowed to leave the country, provided that they renounce their citizenship forever and pledge never return to the U.S.S.R. After his mother died, his father, an engineer, applied for and was give an exit visa for himself, 3 children, and the children's grandmother. The exit visa required them to go to Israel, though Israel allowed program "dropouts" and permitted them to relocate to Italy. Once in Italy, the father worked to get permission to emigrate to the USA, and Brighton Beach, which had a significant Russian immigrant community.

Alexander Vindman’s master’s degree, from Harvard, is in Russian, Eastern Europe, and Central Asian Studies. He later served at the embassies in both Kiev and Moscow. His older brother, Leonid, who became an investment banker, married a Russian art historian from Moscow.


His military honors include:

Legion of Merit
Purple Heart
Defense Meritorious Service Medal with bronze oak leaf cluster (2nd award)
Meritorious Service Medal
Army Commendation Medal with three oak leaf clusters (4th award)
Army Achievement Medal with two oak leaf clusters (3rd award)
National Defense Service Medal
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Korea Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon; Overseas Service Ribbon (4th award)
Valorous Unit Award;
Joint Meritorious Unit Award
Navy Unit Commendation
National Intelligence Meritorious Unit Citation
Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation.

He is a recipient of the
Combat Infantryman Badge;
Expert Infantryman Badge;
Ranger Tab;
Basic Parachutist Badge;
the Presidential Service Badge; and
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge.

He apparently has no history of debilitating bone spurs.
 
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Pure ignorance. You fall for the effort of Trump’s supporters to misconstrue and misrepresent Vindman’s origin story.

The Vindmans emigrated from the Soviet Union, not Ukraine. They were Ashkenazi Jews from a majority-Russian-speaking Soviet city. He was born in Kiev, yes, then part of the Soviet Union. Ukraine did not exist as a free country until 12 years after they left, and so he never held "Ukrainian citizenship".

In the 70s some Soviet Jews were allowed to leave the country, provided that they renounce their citizenship forever and pledge never return to the U.S.S.R. After his mother died, his father, an engineer, applied for and was give an exit visa for himself, 3 children, and the children's grandmother. The exit visa required them to go to Israel, though Israel allowed program "dropouts" and permitted them to relocate to Italy. Once in Italy, the father worked to get permission to emigrate to the USA, and Brighton Beach, which had a significant Russian immigrant community.

Alexander Vindman’s master’s degree, from Harvard, is in Russian, Eastern Europe, and Central Asian Studies. He later served at the embassies in both Kiev and Moscow. His older brother, Leonid, who became an investment banker, married a Russian art historian from Moscow.


His military honors include:

Legion of Merit
Purple Heart
Defense Meritorious Service Medal with bronze oak leaf cluster (2nd award)
Meritorious Service Medal
Army Commendation Medal with three oak leaf clusters (4th award)
Army Achievement Medal with two oak leaf clusters (3rd award)
National Defense Service Medal
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Korea Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon; Overseas Service Ribbon (4th award)
Valorous Unit Award;
Joint Meritorious Unit Award
Navy Unit Commendation
National Intelligence Meritorious Unit Citation
Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation.

He is a recipient of the
Combat Infantryman Badge;
Expert Infantryman Badge;
Ranger Tab;
Basic Parachutist Badge;
the Presidential Service Badge; and
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge.

He apparently has no history of debilitating bone spurs.
I conduct my own due diligence.

Questions for you: is Vindman a citizen of Ukraine or not? Would Ukraine offer a non-citizen the position of minister of defense?

I would be asking exactly the same questions if a person in a position of authority was behaving this way with the UK or Australia. It's completely unacceptable conduct.
 
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You made the claim that he is a citizen of Ukraine. Prove your claim. It is not up to me to prove that he is not.

He came to the USA at the age of 3 and spent his entire adult life serving the U.S. military, with a ton of high honors.
 
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I conduct my own due diligence.

Questions for you: is Vindman a citizen of Ukraine or not? Would Ukraine offer a non-citizen the position of minister of defense?

I would be asking exactly the same questions if a person in a position of authority was behaving this way with the UK or Australia. It's completely unacceptable conduct.

Did that really happen, though? I thought that was just a joke made on a phone call?
 
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Vindman said he had no interest in the position and wasn't even sure if Danylyuk was serious about the offer. He immediately reported the offer to his commanding officer.


 
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Did that really happen, though? I thought that was just a joke made on a phone call?
Vindman said he had no interest in the position and wasn't even sure if Danylyuk was serious about the offer. He immediately reported the offer to his commanding officer.


He was offered the position on 3 occasions. I cannot demand that he show me his passport, but the idea that a nation offers the position of defense minister on 3 occasions. There is no country in the milkway galaxy that offers the position of defense minister to a non-citizen, even Somalia. None.
 
This was basically a troll post, as I figured it would trigger a lot of the usual suspects. And this is an entirely unserious board that borders on parody, most days.

Didn't disappoint. I don't give a shit about Vindman.
Basically? Don't try to sugarcoat the BS spewed by CO. It's still pure BS. Worse yet, he knows that he's full of shit.

And Toast isn't far behind. He feigns ignorance when challenged, but 90% of the time it's a ruse. He tries to get away with suggesting he may not be certain of the facts, but he knows full well that half of what he suggests is not true.
 
He was offered the position on 3 occasions.
Read the link. All offers were made during one visit, for Zelinskyy's inauguration, where Vindman was part of the American delegation. Each time Vindman said he had no interest. He immediately reported the offers to intelligence brass. An American citizen being offered a foreign government job is obviously a concern, and indiates the bumbling nature of Ukranian politics. I guess on the odd chance Vindman would have accepted, it would not have been hard to make him a citizen. But he isn't...
 
Read the link. All offers were made during one visit, for Zelinskyy's inauguration, where Vindman was part of the American delegation. Each time Vindman said he had no interest. He immediately reported the offers to intelligence brass. An American citizen being offered a foreign government job is obviously a concern, and indiates the bumbling nature of Ukranian politics. I guess on the odd chance Vindman would have accepted, it would not have been hard to make him a citizen. But he isn't...
Would not be the first time Ukraine offered a high level position to an American citizen. Look up Natalie Jaresko - an American citizen who was appointed Ukraine's Minister of Finance. Prior to that she worked for the U.S. State Department.
 
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Read the link. All offers were made during one visit, for Zelinskyy's inauguration, where Vindman was part of the American delegation. Each time Vindman said he had no interest. He immediately reported the offers to intelligence brass. An American citizen being offered a foreign government job is obviously a concern, and indiates the bumbling nature of Ukranian politics. I guess on the odd chance Vindman would have accepted, it would not have been hard to make him a citizen. But he isn't...
The Ukrainian official who extended the "offer" said it was a joke. Vindman, too, viewed the situation as "comical" but, as you've noted, immediately reported it.

Vindman came to the US as a three year-old. He's a decorated (including the Purple Heart) US Army combat veteran. He was on the infamous call Trump had with Zelensky, and had the balls to take on Trump for trying to extort Zelensky. The Trump cultists have been trying to smear Vindman as a POS - - with dual loyalties - - ever since.

 
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