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They are hypocrites. That's why it's imperative Danc not take his foot off the pedal. He's got one foot smashin the pedal and the other a mod's throat. I was worried we had lost him to shingles or something.
Nope he just said he was leaving when Uncle Mark became a mod. Guess he couldn’t quit us.
 

Parading should get you a night in jail and released. It was such a non-crime that lefty weirdos could interrupt Congress repeatedly and "no big deal". "Well they weren't violent." Neither were the majority of people who entered the Capitol on 1/6.

If you are a righty protestor you get shot or locked up in jail. Protest violently for BLM near the White House and you get an apology that we so meanly treated you. We will even change our rules for how we disperse you.

You have any clue how many black people on social media were talking about what would have happened if it was BLM trying to take over the US Capitol? A whole bunch thought these folks were treated differently on Jan. 6 and they didn’t think it was politics. They thought it was color.
 
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Nope he just said he was leaving when Uncle Mark became a mod. Guess he couldn’t quit us.

Maybe some things have changed.

Nothing has changed from my standpoint. Dan's absence from the Cooler (he wasn't really gone, he just wasn't posting) was of his own choosing. FWIW, while I reserve the right, I've never banned anyone. I'll continue to delete contentless personal attacks (including decent posts that have gratuitous slams thrown in) and will lock threads that have devolved into nothing more than food fights.
 
Nothing has changed from my standpoint. Dan's absence from the Cooler (he wasn't really gone, he just wasn't posting) was of his own choosing. FWIW, while I reserve the right, I've never banned anyone. I'll continue to delete contentless personal attacks (including decent posts that have gratuitous slams thrown in) and will lock threads that have devolved into nothing more than food fights.
What changed is probably that the football forums got boring.
 
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Nate Silver had a bit about B1G expansion last week. My big takeaway was that IU is actually in a safer position than we might otherwise think.

Oh, we're plenty safe. There's just a couple knuckleheads on the football board who claim that IU will either eventually get kicked out or would be better off if they went G5 or some such. It's not nearly as idiotic as the basketball board, but it has its moments.
 
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Oh, we're plenty safe. There's just a couple knuckleheads on the football board who claim that IU will either eventually get kicked out or would be better off if they went G5 or some such. It's not nearly as idiotic as the basketball board, but it has its moments.
How about that Buffalo guy?
 
Sure, a woman veteran barely 5 foot tall is going to come through a door.

The coward panicked and shot her while other officers were on her side of the door.

Read sometime, Amber.
Coming thru a "door"? It was a busted out window, and she was shot after she started to climb thru, while everyone else remained on the ground where they were supposed to be...

We can all see clearly with our own eyes, and I doubt you actually believe your own narrative. Here starting about the 2:00 mark you can clearly see her rise up thru the busted out glass and she's completely off the ground. They even enclose he image in the video in a circle and she is fully off the ground. clearly she's the only person who steps into no mans land and constitutes a threat. Had she remained on the ground (like everyone else) she would not have been shot...

 
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But they never do that and that is my point. She had less value than they do. The people rotting in prison are viewed as lesser simply because politics.

We won't see eye to eye on this because you aren't walking the same political shoes. I don't have the energy to get into it all but this is just another in a line of disparate treatment that has me agitated.
But they never do that and that is my point. She had less value than they do. The people rotting in prison are viewed as lesser simply because politics.

We won't see eye to eye on this because you aren't walking the same political shoes. I don't have the energy to get into it all but this is just another in a line of disparate treatment that has me agitated.


False equivalency is not disparate treatment. Just like DANC tried to claim the "grandma" was treated unfairly, we find out when we actually delve into the story that she was intentionally trying to distract officers to allow other rioters to breach security. The judge who sentenced her to two months was a Reagan appointee, and based on a previous case when someone who had claimed to express remorse had actually gone on Fox and said she had made up the phony mea culpa, he decided he didn't believe Granny was sincere either. Fool me once...

So who legitimately is INNOCENT and in prison "rotting"? So far all those claims have been disproven. And just like with the people who committed serious crimes and stoked violence during the BLM demonstrations, the people charged with the most serious infractions are getting the heaviest sentences.

This guy was extradited from IN to OR and sentenced to 10 yrs for his conduct during Portland riots. That sentence is heavier than any Jan 6 defendant has received to date...



WI BLM activist extradited to PA for shooting incident

A BLM activist charged with intimidating a judge extradited to MN

Now watch the videos Jan 6 rioters smashing cops with flagpoles, bats, spraying them with bear spray, and in the case of Babbitt and the goons she was with smashing windows and threatening members of Congress. Now tell us with a straight face that if the rioters on Jan 6 had been BLM that the shot fired at Ashli Babbitt would have been the first and only time an LEO's weapon would have been fired that day...
 
You're wrong on several counts there:

Colbert called it "a fairly simple story," or at least it was "until the next night when a couple of the TV people started claiming that my puppet squad had quote 'committed insurrection' at the U.S. Capitol Building."

The "TV people" that Colbert referenced included Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who called the CBS team "saboteurs" and falsely said that they breached the Capitol.

"They weren't in the Capitol building," Colbert said Monday night. "And I'm shocked I have to explain the difference — but an insurrection involves disrupting the lawful actions of Congress and howling for the blood of elected leaders, all to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.



And for what it's worth, they had been cleared to be there and filmed segments with both Democrats and Republicans. They weren't snuck into the Capitol and they weren't a part of a violent mob.
No, they hadn't been cleared. That's a lie. Ask the Capitol Police, who took them into custody.

What do you think Colbert would say would make any difference? Of course he's going to say they didn't do anything wrong.

Don't be a dupe. You got caught making a stupid statement and now you can't own up to it.
 
Thomas Webster who was convicted of Jan 6 charges within a number of hours by a jury is set for sentencing Sept 1, and the DOJ is requesting a 17 yr sentence. That would be nearly double the previous sentence that has previously been handed down, and it's obvious the DOJ want to make an example here for future defendants weighing possible plea deals or facing sentences. They are arguing premeditation
(he took his bullet proof vest and off duty firearm, along with the flagpole he used to attack Capitol police officers) with him from PA to DC. He's a Marine and former NYC LEO, so the argument is he should have known the dangerous aspect of the riot he planned to engage in...

The complicating (and possibly mitigating) factor for me is that he has apologized and disavowed his actions, including renouncing the Big Lie beliefs that he previously held. And his attorneys are blaming Trump for deceiving him and thousands of others in DC, and millions of people thruout the US, and basically inciting Webster and others to riot. A little background...



I'm not sure why the DOJ isn't giving any credence to his renouncement of violence, unless they doubt he's sincere. No idea if he could earn any kind of consideration thru co operation, or if he even has anything to offer. My purely guesstimate is that he'll get 8-9 yrs, but that's going strictly off the info in the video...

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Coming thru a "door"? It was a busted out window, and she was shot after she started to climb thru, while everyone else remained on the ground where they were supposed to be...

We can all see clearly with our own eyes, and I doubt you actually believe your own narrative. Here starting about the 2:00 mark you can clearly see her rise up thru the busted out glass and she's completely off the ground. They even enclose he image in the video in a circle and she is fully off the ground. clearly she's the only person who steps into no mans land and constitutes a threat. Had she remained on the ground (like everyone else) she would not have been shot...

There were some scared little boys on the other side of that broken window. That Ashli Babbit just looked MEAN! lmao

Of course, the Capitol Police standing in close proximity to her on her side of the door didn't seem to worried. But hey, she was a bad-ass!
 
No, they hadn't been cleared. That's a lie. Ask the Capitol Police, who took them into custody.

What do you think Colbert would say would make any difference? Of course he's going to say they didn't do anything wrong.

Don't be a dupe. You got caught making a stupid statement and now you can't own up to it.
Yes, they had been cleared. They had been there for two days prior doing interviews.

If you want to get technical about it, yes, they weren't cleared to stay as long as they did, but they had passed a security background check and were known to security.

There is a chasm of difference between them and Ashli Babbitt. But you know that.
 
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Yes, they had been cleared. They had been there for two days prior doing interviews.

If you want to get technical about it, yes, they weren't cleared to stay as long as they did, but they had passed a security background check and were known to security.

There is a chasm of difference between them and Ashli Babbitt. But you know that.
No they weren't. That's why they were arrested.

You're a clinger, so I don't expect you to admit you are wrong.
 
Nothing has changed from my standpoint. Dan's absence from the Cooler (he wasn't really gone, he just wasn't posting) was of his own choosing. FWIW, while I reserve the right, I've never banned anyone. I'll continue to delete contentless personal attacks (including decent posts that have gratuitous slams thrown in) and will lock threads that have devolved into nothing more than food fights.
Great job so far. Don't get overzealous, though, in deleting posts. And even application of the rules is always a plus. "Nutso," yesterday, was apparently verboten but "prick," today, is apparently ok.
 
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Great job so far. Don't get overzealous, though, in deleting posts. And even application of the rules is always a plus. "Nutso," yesterday, was apparently verboten but "prick," today, is apparently ok.
Do you ever stop whining?
 
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No they weren't. That's why they were arrested.

You're a clinger, so I don't expect you to admit you are wrong.
I'm not always right and actually do admit when I'm wrong more than you'd think. I know I've done it on this board (or previous iterations) through the years.

That said, this is not one of those times I'm wrong:

The group of nine people associated with CBS’ “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” were arrested last month for ignoring instructions stay with a staff escort while inside the building, police said in a press statement.

“Members of the group had been told several times before they entered the Congressional buildings that they had to remain with a staff escort inside the buildings and they failed to do so,” the statement said.


So as I had stated, US Capitol Police had granted them access to the building - and cleared them to be there.

That said, that's not really the point. No serious person thinks what happened with the January 6 rioters and Colbert's staff are the same thing.
 
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I'm not always right and actually do admit when I'm wrong more than you'd think. I know I've done it on this board (or previous iterations) through the years.

That said, this is not one of those times I'm wrong:

The group of nine people associated with CBS’ “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” were arrested last month for ignoring instructions stay with a staff escort while inside the building, police said in a press statement.

“Members of the group had been told several times before they entered the Congressional buildings that they had to remain with a staff escort inside the buildings and they failed to do so,” the statement said.


So as I had stated, US Capitol Police had granted them access to the building - and cleared them to be there.

That said, that's not really the point. No serious person thinks what happened with the January 6 rioters and Colbert's staff are the same thing.
LMAO. The headline from you link is:

DOJ won’t prosecute group linked to Colbert’s ‘The Late Show’ after unlawful entry arrests, Capitol police say​


They wouldn't have been arrested by the Capitol Police if they'd been authorized to be there. You are proving my point. They were in a place they weren't supposed to be.

You made a blanket statement - without qualifications. If you didn't mean it, just say that.
 
No, they hadn't been cleared. That's a lie. Ask the Capitol Police, who took them into custody.

What do you think Colbert would say would make any difference? Of course he's going to say they didn't do anything wrong.

Don't be a dupe. You got caught making a stupid statement and now you can't own up to it.
Speaking of stupid claims...

First of all Colbert's crew and puppet were not in the Capitol Building but rather in a Congressional office building across the street from the Capitol. They had been conducting interviews with members of both parties for at least two days, but that was during daytime hours and different officers work different shifts.. They were cleared in the sense that members of Congress from both parties had invited them into their respective offices willingly, and had actively participated in "interviews" with Triumph to be aired as comedy sketches on Colbert.

This was perfectly normal for people to visit Congressional offices prior to Jan 6. Now do we need to show you video of GOP Congress people hosting visitors in their offices prior to Jan 6, or will you just concede the fact?

The "incident" arose because of heightened security concerns by Capitol Police AS A RESULT of Jan 6. On the final day the crew was in the hallway and not a specific office basically wrapping up after the close of what is basically the work day. Since it was after hours and they were in a hallway of the building (not the Capitol Building) the police were "curious" as to their identity and processed them and detained them briefly. Again they weren't doing anything wrong, and it's likely the night time officers were unaware of what had been going on for the past 2 days and knew nothing of what the day time officers had likely become familiar with- Triumph "talking" to people.

There were no charges filed. I'm not sure that you can even accuse someone of trespassing if they've been there all day and were never asked to leave. Of course wingnut media (which apparently you watch) tried to apply some false equivalency. But the reality is that had a bunch of idiots not rioted on Jan 6 in the first place no one would even worry about a tv crew walking around interviewing members of Congress in their respective offices...

And here's another reality... If it was a crew from a right wing media site, like a "comedy" crew from Gutfeld and they had been there all day and the same night crew of officers had questioned them, YOU would be railing against the officers. You can't even deny it, because there are plenty of examples of you engaging in just that sort of false equivalency behavior. Don't make me look them up...
 
LMAO. The headline from you link is:

DOJ won’t prosecute group linked to Colbert’s ‘The Late Show’ after unlawful entry arrests, Capitol police say​


They wouldn't have been arrested by the Capitol Police if they'd been authorized to be there. You are proving my point. They were in a place they weren't supposed to be.

You made a blanket statement - without qualifications. If you didn't mean it, just say that.
Sweet Jesus.

US Capitol Police knew who they were and at some point granted them access. They overstayed their welcome/didn't stay with their staff guide. They HAD been cleared to be in the building and weren't unknown trespassers. They were careless and it was well within the Capitol Police to arrest them, but they had most definitely been cleared to be in the building. No charges were filed.

How else do you think they were able to get into the building and do their interviews in the first place?

I'm not really interested in spelling this out any further.
 
Speaking of stupid claims...

First of all Colbert's crew and puppet were not in the Capitol Building but rather in a Congressional office building across the street from the Capitol. They had been conducting interviews with members of both parties for at least two days, but that was during daytime hours and different officers work different shifts.. They were cleared in the sense that members of Congress from both parties had invited them into their respective offices willingly, and had actively participated in "interviews" with Triumph to be aired as comedy sketches on Colbert.

This was perfectly normal for people to visit Congressional offices prior to Jan 6. Now do we need to show you video of GOP Congress people hosting visitors in their offices prior to Jan 6, or will you just concede the fact?

The "incident" arose because of heightened security concerns by Capitol Police AS A RESULT of Jan 6. On the final day the crew was in the hallway and not a specific office basically wrapping up after the close of what is basically the work day. Since it was after hours and they were in a hallway of the building (not the Capitol Building) the police were "curious" as to their identity and processed them and detained them briefly. Again they weren't doing anything wrong, and it's likely the night time officers were unaware of what had been going on for the past 2 days and knew nothing of what the day time officers had likely become familiar with- Triumph "talking" to people.

There were no charges filed. I'm not sure that you can even accuse someone of trespassing if they've been there all day and were never asked to leave. Of course wingnut media (which apparently you watch) tried to apply some false equivalency. But the reality is that had a bunch of idiots not rioted on Jan 6 in the first place no one would even worry about a tv crew walking around interviewing members of Congress in their respective offices...

And here's another reality... If it was a crew from a right wing media site, like a "comedy" crew from Gutfeld and they had been there all day and the same night crew of officers had questioned them, YOU would be railing against the officers. You can't even deny it, because there are plenty of examples of you engaging in just that sort of false equivalency behavior. Don't make me look them up...
Yes. Thank you for spelling this out for him better than I was doing.
 
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Speaking of stupid claims...

First of all Colbert's crew and puppet were not in the Capitol Building but rather in a Congressional office building across the street from the Capitol. They had been conducting interviews with members of both parties for at least two days, but that was during daytime hours and different officers work different shifts.. They were cleared in the sense that members of Congress from both parties had invited them into their respective offices willingly, and had actively participated in "interviews" with Triumph to be aired as comedy sketches on Colbert.

This was perfectly normal for people to visit Congressional offices prior to Jan 6. Now do we need to show you video of GOP Congress people hosting visitors in their offices prior to Jan 6, or will you just concede the fact?

The "incident" arose because of heightened security concerns by Capitol Police AS A RESULT of Jan 6. On the final day the crew was in the hallway and not a specific office basically wrapping up after the close of what is basically the work day. Since it was after hours and they were in a hallway of the building (not the Capitol Building) the police were "curious" as to their identity and processed them and detained them briefly. Again they weren't doing anything wrong, and it's likely the night time officers were unaware of what had been going on for the past 2 days and knew nothing of what the day time officers had likely become familiar with- Triumph "talking" to people.

There were no charges filed. I'm not sure that you can even accuse someone of trespassing if they've been there all day and were never asked to leave. Of course wingnut media (which apparently you watch) tried to apply some false equivalency. But the reality is that had a bunch of idiots not rioted on Jan 6 in the first place no one would even worry about a tv crew walking around interviewing members of Congress in their respective offices...

And here's another reality... If it was a crew from a right wing media site, like a "comedy" crew from Gutfeld and they had been there all day and the same night crew of officers had questioned them, YOU would be railing against the officers. You can't even deny it, because there are plenty of examples of you engaging in just that sort of false equivalency behavior. Don't make me look them up...
You're babbling again.

Congressional offices are in that building. They weren't authorized to be there. They were arrested by the Capitol Police. They were not shot, as Ohio claimed they should be.
 
Sweet Jesus.

US Capitol Police knew who they were and at some point granted them access. They overstayed their welcome/didn't stay with their staff guide. They HAD been cleared to be in the building and weren't unknown trespassers. They were careless and it was well within the Capitol Police to arrest them, but they had most definitely been cleared to be in the building. No charges were filed.

How else do you think they were able to get into the building and do their interviews in the first place?

I'm not really interested in spelling this out any further.
Do you know what 'unlawful' means? You destroyed your entire argument when you linked that article.

If you won't redefine your original statement, that crew should have been caught, according to you.
 
Do you know what 'unlawful' means? You destroyed your entire argument when you linked that article.

If you won't redefine your original statement, that crew should have been caught, according to you.
Again, I think you're effing with me/us. I've seen your posts and I'm pretty sure you're not this stupid.

How do you think they had access to members of Congress in the first place? Do you honestly think they just showed up and started doing their interviews? Unlawful entry - as stated in the article - simply means they didn't stay with their staff guide. How was someone assigned to them if they weren't cleared to be there?

Come on man. Really think about this. Are you actually suggesting they never had permission to be there and film?
 
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