No, it's not opinion when you present something as fact (i.e. Ramsey was "bound for the MAC") that is categorically untrue.
Didn't say you made that claim, only that I had seen it in several write ups on Dawkins. Yes, Ramsey was very likely a MAC level guy as a 2 star recruit, which is what he was. Not sure why you’re so angry, especially when you had the facts wrong.
Last time, guy, as I've got to get back to work. You did "day" I made that claim, and you didn't mention any "write ups" in your comments to me.
Man this is nothing personal...not trying to fry your fanny...but I think you totally missed the point. Hey, 2019, when Penix goes down, who goes in? OMG Part III...vbg
I’m a huge IU fan and have been for years. Because I use “you” in the generic sense or say that Ramsey isn’t a Big Ten level qb doesn’t disqualify me as a fan. Who do you cheer for, by the way?
Would love to keep him but I've been expecting a QB transfer and I thought he was probably going to be the one. He wants to play. I wish him the best of luck!
There are people who post here who aren't IU fans. It's a free board, so it attracts its share of trolls and crazies.
Regardless of who gets the starting nod on September 1, I think it's wrong to be dismissive and speak so negatively of a kid who who was thrust into an extremely difficult situation like year with a shaky offensive line, no run game, two of this three best WRs out for most or all of the season, and his future NFL TE mostly out or limited due to injury. Despite this adversity, he engineered a win at Virginia, played very well at times, and set the completion percentage record that was previously mentioned - - all as a redshirt freshman. He's a smart kid, he manages the game well, and he's only going to get stronger and better.
You will get to see him play.....just not at Indiana.
Agreed. Not unusual at all. But you'd never know it from this thread, loaded with drama, wailing and gnashing of teeth starting with the first post suggesting things aren't smooth in the QB room.
He had offers from Boston College, Illinois and Wake Forest. And he was 6'3" tall. So he is shrinking. Bummer
I support the kid, and I think he is getting the most out of himself. He is a great decision maker, which is very valuable. I just don’t think the arm talent is there. I hope he is our backup quarterback for the next three years because we need him.
Nah, I'm a big IU fan. Always have been. I understand what you're trying to do here and, more importantly, why you're doing it, but you can stop.
So any discussion of a kid’s limitations should be off limits? Does this include posters who are now claiming that Tronti was never good enough to play at IU, or does the standard only apply to players currently on the team?
Apples and oranges. Tronti never played at IU. There's no college game action to evaluate.
Yes, there's the arm strength concern. Clearly he doesn't have a cannon, but I think there's enough there to succeed. And according to some of the talking heads during the NFL draft shows last week, arm strength often increases over time, even among guys in their 20s. We'll see what happens.
I’ve seen accolades tossed around for both Tronti and Penix, and neither has played a down of college football. In fact, a poster earlier today referenced IU as having “an abundance of talent at qb”, in spite of the fact that neither Tronti or Penix have played and Dawkins hasn’t even been fitted for a uniform. If the issue is substance, you’d be well served to practice what you preach instead of being upset because others take a balanced view of players.
You really don't get it at all do you? Your attacks were very personal on a player you don't know from adam. You are an ass...with very uninformed opinions that are obviously intended to raise an ruckus.
That hasn't stopped you from anointing him the starter.
There was nothing personal regarding my comments, which weren’t an attack in any way. Was only trying to explain to you the bigger picture of why Dawkins was recruited. And strange you didn’t react in such a bizarre fashion to the comments made about Tronti, which were no different that ones I made about Ramsey. Sorry you got so upset.
Read the Athlon’s article posted today rating Big Ten quarterbacks. Dawkins is their presumed starter, as well. As for Penix, I’m sure he’s very talented, but true freshmen rarely start as quarterbacks in major college football and, when they do, the growing pains can be severe.
Thanks for your post. I didn’t personally attack any player or even the handful of posters who have attacked me, but it’s clear that several are intolerant of any opinion that conflicts with their own.
I fully agree with this. If the argument from others is that Ramsey can’t lead the team to wins on his talent alone, then we’d all agree. He isn’t Sam Darnold. But no one is making that argument. I think that everyone is in agreement that the current guys on the roster will need a functional line and run game to be successful. No one is saying he’s up for the heisman. I don’t see anything from the game tape that shows he can’t be successful if he has a decent run game and protection. Everyone is in agreement on his limitations such as arm strength, but as others have noted, he’s fairly accurate on short and intermediate throws and threw 10 TD’s to 5 picks. In all seriousness, he can at least be as good as Etling who threw 16 TD’s to 2 picks. That’s actually who he reminds me of if you want a player comp. Ramsey is just more mobile.
It's probably best to read the whole thread before pontificating. The poster in question first stated that our QB, without an IU offer, would have been "bound for the MAC." That's not an opinion. It's factually erroneous and unfairly casts the kid in a bad light. The poster deserved to be called out for this.
