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I say Iowa by 3I’ll go with Iowa being favored by four points.
IU -3 means IU is favored by 3.I will take anything better than IU -3. If its lower or gosh forbid they give IU points....take it and run. Highway robbery.
Right. That's what I was referring to.IU -3 means IU is favored by 3.
As I understand gambling, the odds are not who will win nor by how much. The odds are placed to increase the number of bets (and total dollar amount) that are bet. Odds shift in any direction (up or down) based on what is needed to increase the betting on an individual contest.Big number considering how close these 2 teams are rated in the pre-season polls. Was thinking no more than 3 (based mainly on home field). This Bet Rivers 5.5 number is begging folks to put $$ on IU to balance the line.
No, the odds are set to get 50% of the money on each side. This way the house get their "vig" of usually 10% no matter who wins or loses. Lines will move when a large amount of $ goes on one side. This is to get more money on the other side to balance it out.As I understand gambling, the odds are not who will win nor by how much. The odds are placed to increase the number of bets (and total dollar amount) that are bet. Odds shift in any direction (up or down) based on what is needed to increase the betting on an individual contest.
I think you both just said the same thing. But I've had a couple glasses of wine and don't want to analyze it anymoreNo, the odds are set to get 50% of the money on each side. This way the house get their "vig" of usually 10% no matter who wins or loses. Lines will move when a large amount of $ goes on one side. This is to get more money on the other side to balance it out.
Isn't that what he said just ina different way?No, the odds are set to get 50% of the money on each side. This way the house get their "vig" of usually 10% no matter who wins or loses. Lines will move when a large amount of $ goes on one side. This is to get more money on the other side to balance it out.
Lol should have read one more post downI think you both just said the same thing. But I've had a couple glasses of wine and don't want to analyze it anymore
Historically, that is the case.Me personally, if I were betting on the game, even as an Iowa fan, I would put money on Indiana. I know home field gets you points, but it's a fact that Iowa almost always starts the season slow and gets better as the season goes. Last year they lost their first two games, then got things rolling, so, if the season starts as normal, Iowa will start slow, giving Indiana the edge.
LOLI think you both just said the same thing. But I've had a couple glasses of wine and don't want to analyze it anymore
Since Iowa State has been good the past few years, they have a top 25 matchup usually in the second game. When ISU stunk, it was usually three tune up games. Last year, Iowa got Purdue week one, out played them but made entirely to many mistakes, and their defensive backfield wasn't ready as Bell torched them. Week two, the defense played good, but the offense was still making mistakes, lots of penalties and lost to NW by one. Iowa's QB Petras was very erratic the first several games, at times he couldn't have thrown the ball into the ocean if he were standing on the beach, but he came on as the season went, but nothing spectacular. The saving grace they have is Goodson, he is a very good RB so that will take some pressure off Petras, and the defense will be very good again, but with an untested DL. Really, if your going to draw another top 25 conference team in game one, it's good that their in different divisions. SO, whether Iowa or Indiana wins, both are still in race for their division and can still be undefeated in their division. Of course, I think I like not having tOSU in Iowa's division, I feel for you there. LOLHistorically, that is the case.
Along with that does Iowa usually schedule light non-con games to start the season?
Is a top 20 opponent in game 1 something new for Iowa which will then cause them to prepare different and probably start out of the gate faster this year?
Are the slow starts due to running vanilla packages the first few games or is it something else?
Will be curious as to how the first 2 games go for Iowa. Indiana is a big top 25 matchup. Then Iowa goes week 2 to Ames, in what should be their toughest game all year, as ISU is currently top 4 on the ESPN FPI index. I expect Iowa to be about 15 that week and ISU to be around 6-7. So will Iowa prepare hard for Indiana, or will they overlook Indiana for the ISU game? Will be a tough 2 weeks for Iowa. Personally I hope they go 0-2.Since Iowa State has been good the past few years, they have a top 25 matchup usually in the second game. When ISU stunk, it was usually three tune up games. Last year, Iowa got Purdue week one, out played them but made entirely to many mistakes, and their defensive backfield wasn't ready as Bell torched them. Week two, the defense played good, but the offense was still making mistakes, lots of penalties and lost to NW by one. Iowa's QB Petras was very erratic the first several games, at times he couldn't have thrown the ball into the ocean if he were standing on the beach, but he came on as the season went, but nothing spectacular. The saving grace they have is Goodson, he is a very good RB so that will take some pressure off Petras, and the defense will be very good again, but with an untested DL. Really, if your going to draw another top 25 conference team in game one, it's good that their in different divisions. SO, whether Iowa or Indiana wins, both are still in race for their division and can still be undefeated in their division. Of course, I think I like not having tOSU in Iowa's division, I feel for you there. LOL
They will not overlook IU this year.Will be curious as to how the first 2 games go for Iowa. Indiana is a big top 25 matchup. Then Iowa goes week 2 to Ames, in what should be their toughest game all year, as ISU is currently top 4 on the ESPN FPI index. I expect Iowa to be about 15 that week and ISU to be around 6-7. So will Iowa prepare hard for Indiana, or will they overlook Indiana for the ISU game? Will be a tough 2 weeks for Iowa. Personally I hope they go 0-2.
I think Iowa will take it one game at a time, and since Kirk is undefeated vs Campbell, I like Iowa's chances. ISU does not play very many teams in the Big 12 that play good defense, and you can't win in the BiG without playing top 30 defense. Iowa State doesn't play any other team that play the same style as Iowa, so that goes in Iowa's favor. Iowa is good against the run and probably has the best or one of the best secondary that ISU will face all season. The games have been close the past couple years, and ISU plays good defense against Iowa, so I look for another close game. If Iowa's Spencer Petras stuggles in either of these games, Iowa could lose both, but if he picks up where he left off last year, then Iowa could win both games, as I think he is the key to Iowa's success. BTW, ISU won't be Iowa's toughest game of the season. LOLWill be curious as to how the first 2 games go for Iowa. Indiana is a big top 25 matchup. Then Iowa goes week 2 to Ames, in what should be their toughest game all year, as ISU is currently top 4 on the ESPN FPI index. I expect Iowa to be about 15 that week and ISU to be around 6-7. So will Iowa prepare hard for Indiana, or will they overlook Indiana for the ISU game? Will be a tough 2 weeks for Iowa. Personally I hope they go 0-2.
Funny, EPSN FPI has teams ranked as so: #1 Alabama, #2 Oklahoma, #3 Clemson, and #4 is Iowa State. So which of the top 3 teams is Iowa playing?I think Iowa will take it one game at a time, and since Kirk is undefeated vs Campbell, I like Iowa's chances. ISU does not play very many teams in the Big 12 that play good defense, and you can't win in the BiG without playing top 30 defense. Iowa State doesn't play any other team that play the same style as Iowa, so that goes in Iowa's favor. Iowa is good against the run and probably has the best or one of the best secondary that ISU will face all season. The games have been close the past couple years, and ISU plays good defense against Iowa, so I look for another close game. If Iowa's Spencer Petras stuggles in either of these games, Iowa could lose both, but if he picks up where he left off last year, then Iowa could win both games, as I think he is the key to Iowa's success. BTW, ISU won't be Iowa's toughest game of the season. LOL
Big number considering how close these 2 teams are rated in the pre-season polls. Was thinking no more than 3 (based mainly on home field). This Bet Rivers 5.5 number is begging folks to put $$ on IU to balance the line.
Me personally, if I were betting on the game, even as an Iowa fan, I would put money on Indiana. I know home field gets you points, but it's a fact that Iowa almost always starts the season slow and gets better as the season goes. Last year they lost their first two games, then got things rolling, so, if the season starts as normal, Iowa will start slow, giving Indiana the edge.
Who gives a shit.Funny, EPSN FPI has teams ranked as so: #1 Alabama, #2 Oklahoma, #3 Clemson, and #4 is Iowa State. So which of the top 3 teams is Iowa playing?
You know, even a Clone fan should realize that this is a HOOSIER board, and they don't give a hoot about the Cyclones, as they do not play the Cyclones. And to be honest, what does the ISU vs Iowa game have to do with Indiana? Let me suggest something, why don't you bring this up on either the Cyclone or Hawkeye board? BTW, I will guarantee you ISU ends up no where near #4 by season's end, and season's end is what matters.Funny, EPSN FPI has teams ranked as so: #1 Alabama, #2 Oklahoma, #3 Clemson, and #4 is Iowa State. So which of the top 3 teams is Iowa playing?