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The Trump tapes

um ok. What does this show other than Trump expected blind loyalty in return for his endorsement? If anything this makes Trump look worse. He is almost admitting that he expected Bower to cheat for him.

I don't think this is the "ah ha!" you were looking for. Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Yet it's being slurped-up like it is. "Shots fired!" How brainless.
 
Well if Bower did in indeed just perjure himself and Trump has the tape to prove it that will blow this whole charade up.
Oh my goodness you are really counting on that? Bless your heart. Let me know when that health care bill is coming. 2 weeks, right?
 
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Well if Bower did in indeed just perjure himself and Trump has the tape to prove it that will blow this whole charade up.
I'll save you time. He doesn't. It would have been released a long time ago. Zero reason to with hold that.

To take it further Bower will never get elected to an office again. At least not as a republican. So what is his motivation?
 
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And what he, the women after and many other election officials have had to put up with for a year and a half because of Trump’s big lie. No wonder the Dems wanted election officials protected, not just Supreme Court justices. The harm he has done to so many people merely because of his narcissism is unimaginable.
 
I'll save you time. He doesn't. It would have been released a long time ago. Zero reason to with hold that.

To take it further Bower will never get elected to an office again. At least not as a republican. So what is his motivation?
Angling to be the next "Republican" analyst on CNN.
 
So is one of the purposes of these hearings to convince an executive branch employee to charge Trump? Is information coming to light in these hearings that was previously unknown to the Justice Department that bears on that?

My dad supported and gave Nixon the benefit of the doubt until the very end, when the weight of all the evidence made that no longer possible. I'm hoping there are a number of people out there like my dad.

Here's one essay on what "success" means for the committee:

 
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My dad supported and gave Nixon the benefit of the doubt until the very end, when the weight of all the evidence made that no longer possible. I'm hoping there are a number of people out there like my dad.

Here's one essay on what "success" means for the committee:

Sadly, I don't see that happening. They'll stick to him until the end like the People's Temple folks did with Jim Jones.
 
Sadly, I don't see that happening. They'll stick to him until the end like the People's Temple folks did with Jim Jones.

I don't expect him to be totally abandoned. Remember that Nixon had roughly 30% support when he resigned. But what needs to happen is a death blow to Trump's influence and any prospect of him gaining power again. I think that's still possible.
 
I'm not watching or keeping up on the hearings.

So is one of the purposes of these hearings to convince an executive branch employee to charge Trump? Is information coming to light in these hearings that was previously unknown to the Justice Department that bears on that?
The Committee's investigation has clearly been exhaustive. Justice has requested transcripts. I think we can safely assume that your second question can be answered in the affirmative.
 
Trump barely knows John Eastman.
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Though he's no where near as hot as prime Mariah.
 
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Sadly, I don't see that happening. They'll stick to him until the end like the People's Temple folks did with Jim Jones.

I've got hope.

Went to my dad's over the weekend and politics came up. That's never a good thing around my dad and step-mom but the first thing out of her mouth was I don't understand how people can be so tied to one guy like people are to Trump. I almost fainted with surprise. They said they are Republicans, not "Trumpcans" as they put it. They said its been 2 years and people need to move on he needs to stop talking about it.

Now, if he runs again, they'll vote for him because I don't think either have ever voted for a Dem in their life, but that's sticking with party lines, IMO.
 
If the DOJ doesn't charge trump they should fire everyone and lock the doors. If setting up a plan to try and bypass the results of an election doesn't warrant charges then we don't have a functional justice system.
My money is on Fani.
 
If the DOJ doesn't charge trump they should fire everyone and lock the doors. If setting up a plan to try and bypass the results of an election doesn't warrant charges then we don't have a functional justice system.

It's not DOJ's decision nor will it be their decision
 
If the DOJ doesn't charge trump they should fire everyone and lock the doors. If setting up a plan to try and bypass the results of an election doesn't warrant charges then we don't have a functional justice system.

Garland cannot bring charges that don't guarantee a slam dunk conviction. I'd rather see there be no charges than for Trump to be "totally exonerated" again.
 
Garland cannot bring charges that don't guarantee a slam dunk conviction. I'd rather see there be no charges than for Trump to be "totally exonerated" again.
Exactly. Rules of crim pro, evid, apply. Cross. A judge. Technicalities. In some ways this is smarter. Just tell the story you want to tell
 
The party of Democracy wants to prevent voters from voting the candidate they most prefer into office. 😅
 
Well if Bower did in indeed just perjure himself and Trump has the tape to prove it that will blow this whole charade up.
Direct quote from Trump: "Bowers should hope there's not a tape of the conversation."

This is standard from Trump. He has no tape and he’s not had tape any of the dozens of times he said that. He’s a congenital liar - he doesn’t ever want to be on tape. Will you never see the light? You and other Trumpsters have to at some point.
 
I'm not watching or keeping up on the hearings.

So is one of the purposes of these hearings to convince an executive branch employee to charge Trump? Is information coming to light in these hearings that was previously unknown to the Justice Department that bears on that?
I think there has been some new material, but one thing they’ve made clear is that it’s not just about 2020, it’s about preventing this from happening in the future.
 
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Direct quote from Trump: "Bowers should hope there's not a tape of the conversation."

This is standard from Trump. He has no tape and he’s not had tape any of the dozens of times he said that. He’s a congenital liar - he doesn’t ever want to be on tape. Will you never see the light? You and other Trumpsters have to at some point.
Does it matter? He's referring to a conversation where Bowers gave credit to Trump for his election as his excuse for expecting Bowers to abuse his position. Trump is basically acknowledging asking to throw out Arizona's votes. He's a POS.
 
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Oh my goodness you are really counting on that? Bless your heart. Let me know when that health care bill is coming. 2 weeks, right?

Sorry, Zeke. That would be the infrastructure bill that's two weeks down the road.
 
Does it matter? He's referring to a conversation where Bowers gave credit to Trump for his election as his excuse for expecting Bowers to abuse his position. Trump is basically acknowledging asking to throw out Arizona's votes. He's a POS.

It's weird what he's been doing. Today right before the committee convened he posted that Bowers agreed with him that the election was rigged. Bald faced lie. He did the same thing to Pence, Tweeting right before Jan 6 that he and Pence agreed that Pence had the authority to send the Electors back to the states. Another bald faced lie. It's like he's challenging them to contradict him. Does he think they'll blink?
 
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Sorry, Zeke. That would be the infrastructure bill that's two weeks down the road.
Nah, the healthcare plan was always a couple weeks from being released.

The other running joke was “it’s infrastructure week” being announced and then getting sidetracked by some BS self created crisis within the administration.
 
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