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Anyone going to Turnpike Troubadours and Trampled by Turtles here in a couple weeks at that new Fishers arena?
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Anyone going to Turnpike Troubadours and Trampled by Turtles here in a couple weeks at that new Fishers arena?
That’s what I’m saying but they are low in numbers. I’m trying to explain to you why Biden and Harris were unpopular in this instance. Not arguing which job is better. Union benefits are not as good as they used to be either.Non-union does have more jobs. But union workers tend to make more AND have better benefits.
Union workers are paid 11.2% more and have greater access to health insurance and paid sick days than their nonunion counterparts: Policymakers must strengthen workers’ ability to form unions, particularly during the coronavirus crisis
A new report by the Economic Policy Institute discusses the importance of unions and workers’ collective action in establishing an equitable economy, particularly during the coronavirus pandemic. The authors find that unionized workers earn on average 11.2% more in wages than nonunionized peers...www.epi.org
There are drawbacks to unions. But consider the role of the modern corporation is to lower wages. We pay C-Suite types great bonuses for lowering labor costs. So does it make sense to throw away the only real advantage a worker has? The Republicans have said yes to that for over a generation. Workers should trust the elites more than their fellow workers. I am not sure how that fits into the anti-elite argument made by conservatives.
This is true, and way back in the thread I suggested the complaints might be cultural and not economic. But my point is that the D party has tried to help male workers contrary to the current narrative. Trump suggested firing striking workers, do you think that improves wages and working conditions? Doesn't that put him squarely on the side of "elites"?
The Ds have some serious soul-searching to do. Maybe becoming Bernie's policies are the answer. Maybe Ds have to pick and choose their cultural battles better. It all should be in play.
My point is more the narrative that the Ds ignore blue-collar males is wrong. Maybe they would prefer to be fired for sticking than support reassignment surgery. That doesn't mean standing up for their right to strike isn't pro-blue-collar male.
I'm simply saying anything can happen, but I am going to presume Trump will not try and be FDR.
Last politico chick that acted like that had to take out an online restraining order against Uncle Mark.
I think they get it. At least these three do.
I just don’t think they know how to deal with it.
JV Last just thinks Dems should carry on as they have and continue looking down on rural people who have traditional cultural values. Miller wants to try to split the baby somehow. Longwell seems to calculate that this is just a losing bet for Dems.
I think they’d be on safe enough ground just to come out against biological boys/men playing in girls/womens sports. That seems like good middle ground.
OK, I get it. I would suggest workers need more unions and not fewer. It sure seems since circa 1980 when the anti-union philosophy really took off that workers have not done as well overall.
Unions have problems, union leaders should not become as rich as management leaders. There is corruption. I just think if more people were organized, pay would go up in more places. They just have to build in safeguards against just having a new management boss.
So why is that? Isn’t it all the same?
They’re being messaged to in this way by people to whom they look up and thus they think it’s “the way.” I don’t discern a difference.
I really want to, but driving to Fishers, especially on a Friday, just sounds awful. Yeah I know I’m old.
I don't think it is. I think the woman was saying it's just a matter of tweaking how we talk. I'm saying, no, it's a matter of changing what we believe.
WTF Brad??? Turnpike is the best country band ever, and it’s not even close. Pull up the album Goodbye Normal Street immediately.
@BradStevens dont reply. Just ignore. That’s a door you don’t want to open
We're going to Trampled by Turtles on Dec. 14 at the Clyde in Fort Wayne.
They have "it". You know it when you hear them. Like a grunged out, Oklahoma/Texas Avett Bros, actually.
I thought they were done for. Gone. Like Pixies in the 90's, or Old Crow...a great band I would never see again, but they're back out.
Speaking of Pixies and Trampled by Turtles... 😄
I see. I think she’s literally saying it’s tweaking how we talk but I guess I’ve jumped to the conclusion that it inherently means changing what they believe.
Look, they’re absolutely fantastic but their body of work is too small. I’d put Cross Canadian Ragweed over them but they suffer from the same smallness of body of work.
The Highwaymen, Alabama (even though they are very cheesy) would rank higher in my book.
And there are numerous acts named after the singer that are much better than Turnpike.
In my opinion.
Alabama. House band at the 8th wonder of the world. A once great strip of perfect cheeze turned into tattoo parlors and vape stores
Agree on body of work, but maybe excepting last release, all are great albums. Love Ragweed too but think TT has better albums. Same for Reckless Kelly, which is also great.
There really aren’t a ton of strict bands in the genre. While I understand Alabama absolutely has to be considered, the quality just isn’t at the level. JMO
On likely their 3 least busy days of the week. They have overhead they are already paying to have the store open and manned on those days. You can make up overhead cost per unit by doing volume. On days where you aren't getting traffic, lowering cost a bit to do volume (and maybe taking a slight loss) is preferable to no traffic at all. It isn't a long term strategy though as doing that too long without offsetting good sales days will put you out of business eventually.
My God, the worst kind.
Missouri voted FOR a protection for abortion in the state constituion and for a hike on the minimum wage and then voted in Hawley and Trump. The Dems would be idiotic not to read that as "get back to talking about economics you ****ing morons"
In '20 Florida voted in pretty substantial hikes to the minimum wage while voting for Trump and in 24 voted 57% in favor of more abortion access as well. But there are a couple of wedge issues that just kill Democrats. Backing away would be good. Sadly it would just result in more votes for Jill Stein who seems to want people like Trump to win to anger people that they will shoot right past liberal into socialist.
