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The Serious Election Day Thread

I could take that seriously if you didn't use Tulsi as your example.
Tulsi is moderate. Bit of a loon maybe. But moderate.
I think they will. There isn't a ton of unity in what the party stands for...much like with the GOP. I'm not sure the next Dem presidential candidate is even someone on the national radar right now.
they have to get the extreme left under control. She chose a terrible running mate to appease it. And it’s probably a losing decision
 
Women dominate the STEM degrees, after decades of gains. Dominate teaching as well.

Women are far from underprivileged.

It was a bad argument and you got called on it. Blue collar men aren't voting based on white collar power.
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It is a good argument. Women dominate teaching, men dominate school administration. Guess which pays more.

Women most certainly do not dominate STEM degrees. The article below says 60% are male. Show me some stat suggesting otherwise.

 
Wonder what would have happened if Biden didn't bend over for the progressives and ran with Amy Klobuchar 4 years ago... And she got bumped up to the top of the ticket. She's exponentially more impressive than Kamala
Many democrats on this site will tell you the extreme left doesn’t really have much power. That the Squad only exists on social. That it’s a moderate party.

It’s been proven categorically false ever since 2020.
 
It is a good argument. Women dominate teaching, men dominate school administration. Guess which pays more.

Women most certainly do not dominate STEM degrees. The article below says 60% are male. Show me some stat suggesting otherwise.

Ahh, you're right, STEM google shows 60-40 or a little more over a decade.

The number I recalled (and lost a forum debate on) is only the medicine, health, life sciences portion. Not including eng and computer science where women are a much smaller percentage which brings their number down.
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The Democrats are holding on in TX-28 and TX-34. Trump will carry both districts. He will probably win the region outright. He’s carrying Cameron county. He’s behind a fraction of a point in Webb (Laredo) and Hidalgo (McAllen)
 
The House GOP is significantly under running Trump in a lot of places. And not just where there are D incumbents. It’s the only reason it’s still up in the air
 
It isn't about power. That is what I am saying. When you are telling voting men that they need to give up their hold on the patriarchy and things like that and then comparing that to what is happening to normal dudes, the message falls flat. Girls are doing better in school. More women are getting degrees. More women are homeowners. And the reaction you had is exactly the type of reaction that I think turns guys off. It isn't about power, it is that you (the Democrats) don't talk to my issues and when you (the Democrats) do talk to me you paint this picture that I should STFU and step aside for the girls because the top .0001% of men who have always run the world still do. It is just god awful messaging to blue collar dudes who used to be a big part of that coalition.

As women gained toward equality, men were going to lose some power at all levels. If we let women work in the factory, there are fewer factory jobs for men. Simple math, is that wrong?

So yes, to an extent blue collar men lost jobs. The alternative is to what, tell women they cannot work?

More men are doctors. I suspect, have not looked, but I suspect because of Catholic beliefs more men are ministers. More women teach, and nurse, and administrative assistant. Just guesses, you can look them up. More men in construction.

So we don't want to see that women get power, at the same time, what, we throw women out of factories and construction to appease men?

I do not have a solution. The pie can only grow so large. Because of technology we need fewer laborers. I have seen I69 being built, the number of humans working on it has been amazingly small

But we are okay telling women not to try for any power positions (except CPA, women seem to be well represented). In return, they should leave all the other jobs? What answer is there?
 
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Well I just got why the election was lost, from MSNBC.

White women didn't 'do the right thing' by supporting the pro-abortion candidate. And white women had yet another chance to break the patriarchy, but instead let women down yet again.

Good to know.
 
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KH ran on a name calling, lack of substance, keep it vague platform. She expected black and browns and far liberal whites to channel their victim mentality and fall in with her. They didn’t. They wanted and deserve more substance. You know, like a plan for the economy, a plan for illegal immigrants, a plan for men playing sports as women, a plan to restore the USA’s standing globally. Instead … they got cries of “fascists!”, “mysogynists!” . No policy outlines. No substance. They saw through this. Thank God this failed. The Dem’s have a great chance now to restructure and un-woke their party. Return to the middle and flourish. Will be interesting to see what they do.
 
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Tulsi is moderate. Bit of a loon maybe. But moderate.

they have to get the extreme left under control. She chose a terrible running mate to appease it. And it’s probably a losing decision
I think you're wrong about Tulsi being a moderate. I don't think she actually has any positions at all. She definitely is a loon though.

I don't suspect the Dems are going to get the extreme left "under control" any more than the GOP has gotten the extreme right "under control". I do agree that Walz was a bad pick. Nice guy, but Minnesota wasn't where this election was going to be won or lost.
 
Democrats don't have a good counter to the poor downtrodden males. 70% of C-Suites are male, 87% of CEOs are male:


There are I believe 12 female governors, and fewer than that in the Senate (4) and 126 in the House (~30%). And of course, never a female president.

So yes, Democrats have a problem that guys are downtrodden. I don't know how to change that, eliminate all women from C-Suites and elected office I guess.
For the hundred-or-so-million men that aren't in C-Suites, what do those stats matter to them?
 
Did the honesty, compassion, or integrity turn you off? Brown was a decent human being. A Dem in an ever growing red state. He won a tough cycle 6 years ago. We need more Dems in red states, and more Reps in blue states. We continue to march backward.
Just his worldview. It’s nothing personal. It almost never is with me.

I think the fewer advocates of left-wing economic policies we have in office, the better.

He was one of the biggest advocates of the pension bailout. That wasn’t the only thing that turned me off, but it’s representative enough.
 
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