It would be interesting to find out how many trump voters still support Trump after losing their job vs how many are now RINOsHam handed firings in the DoD. Many Vets and Republicans (and a lot of Trump voters) are going to be shown the door.
Pentagon is placing probationary employees on leave in advance of mass firings
The terminations are expected within weeks under plans to fire nearly one-tenth of DOD’s 55,000 “probies.”www.defenseone.com
The DOGE Clown Show
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Don't know, but I know many Republicans and MAGAs that work in DoD and they're totally pissed at the way they're doing this. They support shrinking the government as most Republicans do, but this is not the right way to do it. I know the training institute I worked at while on active duty is almost mission incapable right now. They're battling to get that fixed but keep running into roadblocks.
They also flipped about the five things email. Military and DoD civilians are big on the chain of command and OPM/Musk isn't in it. There was a collective FU on that one.
It pains me, but I have to give Pete credit for that one. He was the first to tell Elon and the DOGE dipshits to fvck off.
probably had a couple beers in him and didn't give a fck
And a chick half undressed that he wanted to impress.
“Hey Elon, go **** yourself. This is MY department!”
Half drunk woman swoons.
5 reasons veterans are especially hard-hit by federal cuts
Former service members already face stark challenges as they integrate back into civilian life. Cuts to veterans’ services will make that only worse.
theconversation.com
Confusion, fear as changes whipsaw Defense workforce
Workforce cuts, travel freezes, and administrative burdens are leaving civilians shaken.
www.defenseone.com
Judge reinstates fired federal workers. Not sure how difficult that will be, but it won't be easy:
www.mediaite.com
JUST IN: Federal Judge Orders Trump Admin to Reinstate Tens of Thousands of Federal Workers After ‘Sham’ Mass Firings
U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered President Donald Trump's administration to reinstate tens of thousands of probationary federal employees on Thursday.
www.mediaite.com
GOP-led bill would create congressional oversight of VA layoffs
The Republican chairman of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee said he plans to introduce legislation to require congressional oversight and input from veterans groups before the Department of Veterans Affairs fires more workers, which is expected to reach 80,000 by September.
This clown also placed an injunction of Trump getting rid of DACA. Also ruled with a bunch of student loan borrowers who felt they were “defrauded” because they went into debt and couldn’t get a good job.Judge reinstates fired federal workers. Not sure how difficult that will be, but it won't be easy:
JUST IN: Federal Judge Orders Trump Admin to Reinstate Tens of Thousands of Federal Workers After ‘Sham’ Mass Firings
U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered President Donald Trump's administration to reinstate tens of thousands of probationary federal employees on Thursday.
An unserious judge.
yea, pathetic of a judge to stand up to corruption and enforce the law.
Two federal judges yesterday ordered reinstatement of thousands of employees who were part of the Trump/Musk illegal RIFs.
www.cbsnews.com
Second federal judge orders Trump administration to rehire fired probationary government workers
The order from U.S. District Judge James Bredar came in a lawsuit filed by 19 states and the District of Columbia against multiple federal agencies alleging the mass firings are illegal.
www.cbsnews.com
Sure, requiring the executive branch to follow the law is so passe.
The matter before one of the judges yesterday was supposed to include an evidentiary hearing with testimony from the director of OPM. The government, though, after initially identifying the OPM director as a witness, withdrew his name and didn't present him despite an order for him to testify Thursday. The judge wasn't happy, as reflected in these comments to the government's counsel:Two federal judges yesterday ordered reinstatement of thousands of employees who were part of the Trump/Musk illegal RIFs.
Second federal judge orders Trump administration to rehire fired probationary government workers
The order from U.S. District Judge James Bredar came in a lawsuit filed by 19 states and the District of Columbia against multiple federal agencies alleging the mass firings are illegal.
"You will not bring the people in here to be cross-examined. You're afraid to because, you know, cross-examination would reveal the truth."
And, finally, a classic comment from the judge to government counsel: "If you want to go to the Court of Appeals, God bless you. I want you to."
Give it a rest Twenty. This judges order rests on “hunch” he has that OPM gave an unlawful directive for the layoffs at these agencies rather than the agency heads.
He’s unserious and people who defend this ruling are unserious.
And when it inevitably gets overturned on appeal I expect you to come back to this thread and state that you were WRONG.
Bullshit. It’s much more than that. Team Trump tried to circumvent statutory law requiring advance notice for layoffs by arguing that these federal employees, collectively, were fired for performance-related reasons. That’s subterfuge - - and illegal.
Based on your behavior, if it wins appeal then it must mean that judge was unserious. right?
It's not a hunch. OPM violated the law and its own regulations in these firings. They have a website that you can access and read for yourself. OPM also doesn't have the authority to direct any federal department or agency to fire employees. The supervisors can fire probationary employees easily for misconduct or poor performance, but the OPM email claims that each and every probationary employee was to be terminated for poor performance. That's ludicrous on top of OPM not having this authority. I'm 100 percent positive that you have never looked at federal personnel regulations (I have), never hired or fired any federal employees (I have), and that your opinion is based on your total ignorance as are the majority of your opinions.
The rulings are no surprise, and it won't be a surprise if/when they're upheld on appeal.
If judges have all the power, let’s get rid of the president and congress. Pretty much get rid of Washington. Which Judges are going to make the call if there’s a nuclear attack?
You're a silly fake poster 100 percent of the time but this post by you is one of the silliest ever. It should be deleted for violating the Silly Rule. If we don't have a rule, we should have one and call it the Lucy Rule.
lol Judges are there to keep people from abusing their power.
Although I don't recall hearing your complaints when supreme court justices were caught taking bribes and then ruling with a conservative bent. So I think your complaints are more about expressing your political bias.
you are the most biased poster on the board hickory. that you weigh in on legal matters demonstrates that you're also probably the dumbest
probably since conservative judges are biased in their direction, you know it wouldn't be them
Just curious about this hypothetical....
Let's say you are good at your job (that's a stretch, but bear with me). You have had glittering job performance reviews time after time. But then an outside group having no knowledge of your job or even its functions declares that you should be fired immediately. Why? For poor job performance.
Would you be happy with that?
All reductions in force are at root performance related. If it’s a mass layoff, clearly yours and many other’s performance wasn’t deemed essential or spectacular enough to keep around.
If it’s performance related, then your performance was probably bad.
These laws the administration are accused of violating are a distinction without a difference.
In the case of DOGE, it is clear that they are not reviewing any person's job performance evaluations. Rather, they are making it up as their go-to excuse.
If that happened to you, and you actually had a stack of great job performance assessments and a long list of accomplishments, would you be fine with it?
If that happened to you, and you actually had a stack of great job performance assessments and a long list of accomplishments, would you be fine with it?
Who would be happy with that? No one.
However, I would have another job within 60-90 days if I needed one that quickly or I'd find another job equal to or better than the one I'd lost within 6-9 months at the outside.
I've been canned, despite being a top performer, when the company I worked for was acquired. It sucks, but you figure it out because life isn't fair and you're not guaranteed anything.
OPM guy wouldn't even show up to testify when requested. They knew they were full of shit and then withdrew his sworn statement.
OPM chief rejects court order to testify on probationary firings as case expands governmentwide
Some Republicans push bills to protect workers as thousands of fired feds will rejoin the payroll this week, albeit on administrative leave.
www.govexec.com
Like it or not, there is a legal process to go through when firing federal employees.
Wait till they do a deep dive on the Post Office... That should make for some high comedy...
I have a friend who retired from there who says most of their work force is made up of managers nieces and nephews... According to him they're extremely top heavy in the management end and could lose third of them and no one would notice (that sounds a little extreme but that's what he said)...
All I know is that I've tracked two different packages coming from Chicago to me in Greenwood and they both initially were scanned in Indianapolis And Then Sent On To Cincinnati before being returned to Indianapolis and then on to me... How is that efficient? Even if they didn't want to work that package immediately you'd think they'd just keep it in Indianapolis somewhere and not drive it all the way to Cincinnati and back!!!
Go Elon! Fix the USPS! ! 🍺🇺🇸🍺
If he can do that I Will be impressed!
This. 100x this. Democrats would be better suited pointing to tangible failures that result from reduced headcount that affect voters every day lives.
Not asking for blanket sympathy for severed Federal employees in a way that wreaks of an entitlement attitude not nearly as prevalent in the private sector.
And frankly when and if the average voter is not feeling the effect of these layoffs, it serves as vindication to the DOGE efforts.
there is a fundamental difference between
1) being canned because your job or company is eliminated
2) being canned with a bogus but official reason that you have habitually poor job performance
#1 and you will find a job easily.
#2 and you are materially harmed from finding that next job
1) being canned because your job or company is eliminated
2) being canned with a bogus but official reason that you have habitually poor job performance
#1 and you will find a job easily.
#2 and you are materially harmed from finding that next job
