CBS has this story. It was the local sharpshooters in that building that spotted him. They called control but then lost sight of him. They then spotted him with the rangefinder and called again. Officers were sent, one was the guy who climbed the building.
I guess that the problem would really be that there is such a fall off from Team A to Team C when we have so many VIPs that need protecting. That performance was abominable.Or the leadership
Or... The (off site) Leadership wasn't terribly concerned about what calamity might befall the protectee...
Once again, you don't assign an undermanned third team to a guy you're wishing the best too...
You figured it out. Might want to send in your report.Or the leadership
Or... The (off site) Leadership wasn't terribly concerned about what calamity might befall the protectee...
Once again, you don't assign an undermanned third team to a guy you're wishing the best too...
And why did Dr. Jill, who is under almost no threat at all, apparently get a better security team than the most threatened man in the world? Really makes you wonder.I guess that the problem would really be that there is such a fall off from Team A to Team C when we have so many VIPs that need protecting. That performance was abominable.
So they have snipers at ground level, inside that building, but didn't bother to set up, at minimum, an overwatch position on the roof?!? Or at least station one guy at the ladder...Amazing...
How long would it have taken the advance team to provide a rapid rigged, small covered platform that would straddle that low roof peak and provide a stable platform??? 3 hours max for someone competent???
Given the way those guys operate I suppose it's a good thing they didn't... They probably would have left it unattended when it got hot up there and given the shooter an even more stable platform to shoot from...
I think whomever is the active President is probably the one who faces the biggest threats. The first lady gets protection by extension of her husband. There should be a Team A (the current President's team), but there should not be that big a drop off from Team 2 to 3.And why did Dr. Jill, who is under almost no threat at all, apparently get a better security team than the most threatened man in the world? Really makes you wonder.
I have questions around how this happened but it more relates to general incompetence we are getting from the most expensive government in our history.
The locals were on the 2nd floor and not the roof.
I am not sure why the ladder wasn't removed AFTER police got onto the roof well before. It could be reattached later, but I wouldn't even allow it there.It didn't look like that thing had two floors... I stand corrected...
They still f ' up by not having someone stationed at the ladder however...
Always dug Jack Black. Thought Tenacious D was funny. Still think Master Exploder is a great song.
Given, it was KG who said that, and their obviously on a shitlib themed tour...still...sounds like the gloves are off.
And don’t have the media and higher up government officials consistently echoing Trump is a threat to Democracy for years because some people might just apply malice when a 20 year old dumb#s is able to take numerous pop shots at him 140 yards away. The lack of accountability drives me insane. The reason there are “conspiracy theories” is because our Federal Government f#cking sucks. Don’t f#cking suck and behave like douchebags for years towards Trump and none of this happens.Or the leadership
Or... The (off site) Leadership wasn't terribly concerned about what calamity might befall the protectee...
Once again, you don't assign an undermanned third team to a guy you're wishing the best too...
Come on.... he's Canadian. Obviously a deranged right-winger.Keyboard warrior?
I mean, this guy's credentials are certainly superior to anyone here, from a purely tactical understanding.
Why should his claim be dismissed?
Veteran Sniper: 'No Doubt' Thomas Matthew Crooks Had Help -- 'Most F**king Obvious Thing' Left Unguarded
A retired sniper said he has "no doubts" that Thomas Matthew Crooks had help from "an agency, an organization, or the government."www.breitbart.com
Even if they didn't want to fire because they weren't sure who he was, they had plenty of time to warn the agents next to the stage to get Trump out of there or cover him up.Yeah...I dunno. Those guys had a tough angle for sure to see who that kid was...especially when he's laying flat. They looked to be zero'd in on him, and were probably frantically asking "who the **** is that guy? Is he ours?".
This seems to be more of a strategic **** up of what seems to be basic coverage for these guys...against an amateur!!
Either way it's not good...accidentally incompetent is only slightly less troubling than intentionally incompetent...and I'm talking chalkboard strategy here, not the action of those two guys that got the kill.
Incompetency?Even if they didn't want to fire because they weren't sure who he was, they had plenty of time to warn the agents next to the stage to get Trump out of there or cover him up.
Incompetency all the way around.
How about getting Trump off the stage if there's a question?All speculation. What I’m saying is that the more combatants firing on a battlefield, the more confusing and foggy it is. It’s easy when everyone is wearing your jersey and speaking on the same net. Once you pass that it’s ****ing hard.
"You know....."
Meanwhile, the counter sniping team that took him out was on a ... roof with even more slope.
Yeah you know, we uh wouldn't want any of our SS agents to you know fall and break a leg, but however we do instruct them immediately jump on top of the President whenever there's a threat so they can take the bullets and not him. You know."You know....."
Talk about making excuses.
Without a line of sight to the stage.Shooters could be inside and use a window
SureHow about getting Trump off the stage if there's a question?
And she refused to take Biden's call.Trump didn't call the family of his supporter who died. He didn't call the ones injured. His focus was to play golf the next day.
#priorities
Maybe calling him a dictator on day one and a threat and putting a bullseye on him left her not feeling in the moodAnd she refused to take Biden's call.
At least Biden called her. Unlike Trump.And she refused to take Biden's call.
Trump didn't call the family of his supporter who died. He didn't call the ones injured. His focus was to play golf the next day.
#priorities
Yeah, I read your first post and was able to understand that Trump hadn't called her. Thanks.At least Biden called her. Unlike Trump.
"I don't have any ill will towards Joe Biden. I'm not one of those people that gets involved in politics. I support Trump. That's who I'm voting for, but I don't have ill will towards Biden. He didn't do anything bad to my husband. A 20-year-old despicable kid did... My husband was a devout Republican and he would not have wanted me to talk to him"
She said Trump hadn't reached out, reported New York Post.
Not Trump, Biden Dialled Widow Of Rally Shooting Victim. She Didn't Pick Up
The wife of the firefighter, who was killed during an attack at a Donald Trump rally, received a call from President Joe Biden after the tragedy struck her family on Saturday.www.ndtv.com
Shitty of Trump. Call the people who were shot, FFS. And anyone around them that your team knows about that got blood on them, were traumatized, etc. How hard is this?Yeah, I read your first post and was able to understand that Trump hadn't called her. Thanks.
For sure but they did get some dough going for themShitty of Trump. Call the people who were shot, FFS. And anyone around them that your team knows about that got blood on them, were traumatized, etc. How hard is this?
Sadly, everything we've seen since the shooting implies to me that Trump isn't going to change as a person at all.Shitty of Trump. Call the people who were shot, FFS. And anyone around them that your team knows about that got blood on them, were traumatized, etc. How hard is this?
First question to JD Vance by a reporter now: Mr. Vance, do you think DJT should call the families of the people shot at his rally?Sadly, everything we've seen since the shooting implies to me that Trump isn't going to change as a person at all.
After all these years reading stories about the Secret Service going to great lengths such as welding down manhole covers, removing mail boxes and nailing windows shut along motorcade routes, failing to station people on that roof is impossible to understand.