Sorry I mistook you for a reasonable person. My bad. I won't do that again.WTF are you talking about?
Having an opinion that it was an inside job is the same as being glad a Trump supporter was killed?
Are you drunk?
Sorry I mistook you for a reasonable person. My bad. I won't do that again.WTF are you talking about?
Having an opinion that it was an inside job is the same as being glad a Trump supporter was killed?
Are you drunk?
WTF ?? Cops were inside the building during the shooting??How long it took them them to get Trump off the stage seems to be the thing most are pointing out as a potential failure on the part of the secret service.
And there may be some merit to that. I don’t know enough about the secret service to say one way or the other.
And you’re right, Trump wasn’t cooperating. At all.
So, on the one hand, that's a huge building. Really, more of a complex than a building.WTF ?? Cops were inside the building during the shooting??
Wow. This story doesn't make anybody look good:
lol…did you piss in GOATs cheerios this morning 🤣WTF are you talking about?
Having an opinion that it was an inside job is the same as being glad a Trump supporter was killed?
Are you drunk?
After all these years reading stories about the Secret Service going to great lengths such as welding down manhole covers, removing mail boxes and nailing windows shut along motorcade routes, failing to station people on that roof is impossible to understand.So, on the one hand, that's a huge building. Really, more of a complex than a building.
On the other hand, how in the world is it appropriate to station a "counter sniper team" indoors? This was an outdoor rally. What possible threats could they have been assessing from inside?
Obviously a huge failure on the part of the SS to not be there, but these local cops actually were there. Their failure is even more confusing because they took the time to show up and then just behaved stupidly.After all these years reading stories about the Secret Service going to great lengths such as welding down manhole covers, removing mail boxes and nailing windows shut along motorcade routes, failing to station people on that roof is impossible to understand.
Keyboard warriors are something.An inside job wouldn't use a twenty-year-old rookie with a AR15. Stop it. An inside job would have exploded his head. at 150 yards. Glad you only have one vote. You seem to be easily misled by propaganda.
The cognitive dissonance it must require to believe that the entire DC Republicrat Swamp is out to get your guy, and is using all the different arms of the government to do so, and has taken over the missions of the FBI, CIA, NSA, SS, and I guess PA State Troopers to do so, and then...they just missed...is just beyond comprehension.Keyboard warriors are something.
Well, because it's on Breitbart, for starters.Why should his claim be dismissed?
Or they just purposely understaffed the SS detail and were fine with leaving Trump at more risk. Personally, it doesn’t matter to me whether it’s willful negligence or not. It’s just another sign of crumbling U.S. institutions.Keyboard warriors are something.
What exactly is his claim and what do you think it means. I’m not sure you understand what you read or can comprehend its meaning.Keyboard warrior?
I mean, this guy's credentials are certainly superior to anyone here, from a purely tactical understanding.
Why should his claim be dismissed?
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Veteran Sniper: 'No Doubt' Thomas Matthew Crooks Had Help -- 'Most F**king Obvious Thing' Left Unguarded
A retired sniper said he has "no doubts" that Thomas Matthew Crooks had help from "an agency, an organization, or the government."www.breitbart.com
Wow. Deep.Well, because it's on Breitbart, for starters.
The part that got published on Breitbart.Wow. Deep.
Which part of his analysis, based on your expertise, do you disagree with?
The snipers had binoculars trained that way for minutes before the shooting. You don't think they could notice a unfiromed officer? I get it if they are plain clothed, hell they took out the prone assassin within seconds. I don't think those snipers would have intentionally fired on the cop.I’ll translate what you wrote above:
“I know nothing of real combat.”
I don’t mean that in an asshole way. I mean that in it’s nuanced and split second decisions save and take lives. If a cop shoots his gun and the SS only sees him shooting, it introduces massive confusion to a sniper that is viewing the battlefield from a micro perspective.
The failure was not screening better and not covering an elevated firing position well within rifle range. The cop climbing the ladder probably saved Trump’s life.
Not my problem if you don't earn a decent living or can't invest. If you aren't making money hand over fist this year then may want to hire someone.This guy's an interesting follow...always compelling arguments about how the economy is great in his small town.
Well, the guy they shot was wearing clothes that looked like, you know, a uniform, so.The snipers had binoculars trained that way for minutes before the shooting. You don't think they could notice a unfiromed officer? I get it if they are plain clothed, hell they took out the prone assassin within seconds. I don't think those snipers would have intentionally fired on the cop.
Easy. Because he's Canadian.Keyboard warrior?
I mean, this guy's credentials are certainly superior to anyone here, from a purely tactical understanding.
Why should his claim be dismissed?
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Veteran Sniper: 'No Doubt' Thomas Matthew Crooks Had Help -- 'Most F**king Obvious Thing' Left Unguarded
A retired sniper said he has "no doubts" that Thomas Matthew Crooks had help from "an agency, an organization, or the government."www.breitbart.com
Easy. Because he's Canadian.
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Wow. Interesting.Not my problem if you don't earn a decent living or can't invest. If you aren't making money hand over fist this year then may want to hire someone.
This kind of thinking is exactly why the Dems are going to get plastered this year.Not my problem if you don't earn a decent living or can't invest. If you aren't making money hand over fist this year then may want to hire someone.
This is what a smug sanctimonious Republican would say not long ago. What do our parties stand for these days?Not my problem if you don't earn a decent living or can't invest. If you aren't making money hand over fist this year then may want to hire someone.
No harm.This kind of thinking is exactly why the Dems are going to get plastered this year.
What part of that t-shirt he was wearing was a uniform?Well, the guy they shot was wearing clothes that looked like, you know, a uniform, so.
Yeah...I dunno. Those guys had a tough angle for sure to see who that kid was...especially when he's laying flat. They looked to be zero'd in on him, and were probably frantically asking "who the **** is that guy? Is he ours?".What part of that t-shirt he was wearing was a uniform?
So, to be clear, you think a belief that there may be a conspiracy involved in the Trump assassination attempt is equally as bad as specifically cheering another human beings death.Sorry I mistook you for a reasonable person. My bad. I won't do that again.
Doesn't matter which one is worse, they are both repugnant.So, to be clear, you think a belief that there may be a conspiracy involved in the Trump assassination attempt is equally as bad as specifically cheering another human beings death.
And I’M the unreasonable one?
Alrighty then.
Saying “I believe there is more to the Trump assassination attempt than we are being led to believe” is quite a bit different than saying “I’m glad Trump supporter Corey Comperatore was killed”.Doesn't matter which one is worse, they are both repugnant.
All speculation. What I’m saying is that the more combatants firing on a battlefield, the more confusing and foggy it is. It’s easy when everyone is wearing your jersey and speaking on the same net. Once you pass that it’s ****ing hard.The snipers had binoculars trained that way for minutes before the shooting. You don't think they could notice a unfiromed officer? I get it if they are plain clothed, hell they took out the prone assassin within seconds. I don't think those snipers would have intentionally fired on the cop.
That's a really bland way to paraphrase what people in this thread are really claiming, which isn't that "there is more" generically. They are flatly or clearly implying that the "more" is that the Biden White House tried to kill him. Why are you hiding from this?Saying “I believe there is more to the Trump assassination attempt than we are being led to believe” is quite a bit different than saying “I’m glad Trump supporter Corey Comperatore was killed”.
It’s really bizarre that you’re attempting to equate the two.
I’ll just assume I must have done something to piss you off, as Snarl mentioned.
Even if I agree that the bolded is true, that’s still nowhere near as repugnant as saying “I’m glad this innocent dude got his head blown off because I don’t like his politics”.That's a really bland way to paraphrase what people in this thread are really claiming, which isn't that "there is more" generically. They are flatly or clearly implying that the "more" is that the Biden White House tried to kill him. Why are you hiding from this?
There were reports there was a fixed ladder to the roof. Then that an officer got on another's shoulders to get a view of the roof. If that's true then yes it makes sense why he didn't engage. But at that point someone on a roof just pointed a gun at you (an officer). You have to do anything in your power at that point to save lives, especially the former President. If you don't have direct communications to the snipers on the roof then the next most plausible course of action is to fire shots into the ground. I wouldn't consider him another combatant on the battlefield and I wouldn't think that would fog it up. That would make it crystal clear to the SS by the former president to spring into action as they did when the first shots happened which were the ones that got his ear and the people behind him.All speculation. What I’m saying is that the more combatants firing on a battlefield, the more confusing and foggy it is. It’s easy when everyone is wearing your jersey and speaking on the same net. Once you pass that it’s ****ing hard.
I don’t know. Shooting into the ground is a weird tactic. You’re going to find out the systemic failures sooner.There were reports there was a fixed ladder to the roof. Then that an officer got on another's shoulders to get a view of the roof. If that's true then yes it makes sense why he didn't engage. But at that point someone on a roof just pointed a gun at you (an officer). You have to do anything in your power at that point to save lives, especially the former President. If you don't have direct communications to the snipers on the roof then the next most plausible course of action is to fire shots into the ground. I wouldn't consider him another combatant on the battlefield and I wouldn't think that would fog it up. That would make it crystal clear to the SS by the former president to spring into action as they did when the first shots happened which were the ones that got his ear and the people behind him.
Shitty scenario all around, and I think we all agree at least ten balls were dropped before these efforts at the last minute.
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Veteran Sniper: 'No Doubt' Thomas Matthew Crooks Had Help -- 'Most F**king Obvious Thing' Left Unguarded
A retired sniper said he has "no doubts" that Thomas Matthew Crooks had help from "an agency, an organization, or the government."www.breitbart.com
You can’t even bother to link the Twitter Twits spreading this misinformation?
Shooters could be inside and use a windowSo, on the one hand, that's a huge building. Really, more of a complex than a building.
On the other hand, how in the world is it appropriate to station a "counter sniper team" indoors? This was an outdoor rally. What possible threats could they have been assessing from inside?
MaybeAn inside job wouldn't use a twenty-year-old rookie with a AR15. Stop it. An inside job would have exploded his head. at 150 yards. Glad you only have one vote. You seem to be easily misled by propaganda.
He did have help. It just wasn't help that was planned in advance. Sometimes the negligence or incompetence of your antagonists is all the help you need. This kid's entire operation was amateur hour. The fact that the security apparatus around the President was so inept that day was a tremendous help.Keyboard warrior?
I mean, this guy's credentials are certainly superior to anyone here, from a purely tactical understanding.
Why should his claim be dismissed?
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Veteran Sniper: 'No Doubt' Thomas Matthew Crooks Had Help -- 'Most F**king Obvious Thing' Left Unguarded
A retired sniper said he has "no doubts" that Thomas Matthew Crooks had help from "an agency, an organization, or the government."www.breitbart.com
He did have help. It just wasn't help that was planned in advance. Sometimes the negligence or incompetence of your antagonists is all the help you need. This kid's entire operation was amateur hour. The fact that the security apparatus around the President was so inept that day was a tremendous help.
Don't attribute to malice was is more likely attributable to incompetence. This wasn't some master conspiracy, it is further proof of the erosion in the competency of our government and leadership class.