And how on Earth does a large Dept of Ed help? That’s what we were here discussing before people started lobbing platitudes all over the place and stating falsities like “more money is better for school results.”
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Nothing. That’s the crutch mentality and sort of inferred/implicated in the economics discussion crazed and brad are having
A. I didn't put words in your mouth. That's why I typed (Not BWB). Slow down and read.
B. Your second paragraph is so full of shit, You have no idea what I've experienced in the real world. The only response to that take is Fvck right off...and I don't think you've ever seen me type that very often. I have enough experience in the last 35-40 years, as does my wife, to speak intelligently to the topic.
Fine for A. That’s not how I read it. Read it from another perspective and you’d read it how I did.
For B I’m talking ex-US. US squalor is not comparable to what I’ve seen around the world. You’ve not seen kids living amongst open sewers and with shit floating down the streets and still going to school every morning. I respect your experience but US kids are spoiled comparatively.
Okay...well...fvck you for bringing in the rest of the world, then.
Believe me, US kids are spoiled only in comparison. Their lives are still a shit sandwich through no fault of their own. And many are so resilient, it would break your heart. As my wife says, the biggest hurdle new teachers have to overcome is that the ones who are the hardest to love are the ones who need it the most. (Sorry if that was a sappy platitude).
Sometimes platitudes are reality - but in getting back to what we were discussing….Okay...well...fvck you for bringing in the rest of the world, then.
Believe me, US kids are spoiled only in comparison. Their lives are still a shit sandwich through no fault of their own. And many are so resilient, it would break your heart. As my wife says, the biggest hurdle new teachers have to overcome is that the ones who are the hardest to love are the ones who need it the most. (Sorry if that was a sappy platitude).
I agree there are kids that are lost as innocent victims - but that has nothing to do with a) us being a representative republic, b) an impotent Dept of Ed, c) systemic racism or d) whatever other bogeyman people who refuse to take accountability adopt.
It has everything to do with cultural rot and lack of parental accountability. Lack of accountability driven by selfish people, by fatalism being shoved down throats by DEI/Woke grifters, and by politicians that are worthless.
An aside: It even further pisses me off that my kids have straight A’s, are student athletes, are model citizens and will only have a 5% chance to get into the school they want to attend. If you can convince me a Dept of Education can solve that - then I’m actively listening.
PS - I didn't mean all US kids...I meant to say inner city kids living in poverty. Sorry about that.Okay...well...fvck you for bringing in the rest of the world, then.
Believe me, US kids are spoiled only in comparison. Their lives are still a shit sandwich through no fault of their own. And many are so resilient, it would break your heart. As my wife says, the biggest hurdle new teachers have to overcome is that the ones who are the hardest to love are the ones who need it the most. (Sorry if that was a sappy platitude).
IU has a 77% accept rate. They'll get in.
Try me bitch. Party starts on the drive down and ends six years later with that hot degree
Not paying out of state for IU unless they promise me Kelley. Meaning my kid(s) promise they’ll pursue Kelley.IU has a 77% accept rate. They'll get in.
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Step your game up.
50K plus a year.
TBD. But “good” schools have a 10% acceptance rate. Great schools have sub 5%.
Check on that. As a veteran your kids may qualify for in state tuition. Mine did (but didn’t want to go to IU, unfortunately), but that could be because I’m a retired veteran.
It’s higher. I got in.IU has a 77% accept rate. They'll get in.
'Constitutional Republic.'
Most failing K-12 schools (government)have a high percentage of no father in the home. The offspring become wards of the state. As the state corrupts, so do their wards.
In-State Tuition Rates for Certain Veterans, Military Members, and GI Bill Recipients
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Thanks. I checked those after Aloha mentioned it. I don’t see any of those bullets applying to me.In-State Tuition Rates for Certain Veterans, Military Members, and GI Bill Recipients
Establishes provisions for remission of the nonresident portion of credit-hour fees for full-time military personnel and spouses stationed in Indiana.policies.iu.edu
Education Benefits
Learn about the benefits and resources that CVMS can provide.
I know some state schools do have it for all vets. Have a friend from IU whose kid is at Mizzou who I think got this there.
Then how do you know they only have a 5% chance of getting into the school that they want to attend? There are around 10 universities in the country with an acceptance rate that low.
Sure, there are many schools that are extremely competitive, but I think you are being a little harsh with your good and great grades. Michigan is a fantastic school with a rabid alumni network and has an 18% acceptance rate. Cal is a great school with a 12% acceptance rate. Florida is a very good school with a 23% acceptance rate. And those are just some of the very good publics.
The difficult reality is that the attributes you identify in your kids aren't all that uncommon in today's college applicants. According to some studies, nearly 50% of them graduate high school with all A's. I do alumni interviews for admissions from a school with a low acceptance rate (that I would have no chance of getting into now) and every kid I meet is an A student with tons of extracurriculars, fantastic volunteer work, and a terrific demeanor. Most don't get accepted. That's not a problem with the system. That's a result of us as a society producing a generation of high achieving kids who we (as a society) sell the idea that they have to attend one of those sub 5% schools to have a great life.
There are TONS of great options for kids after high school that fit their interests and ambitions. I wouldn't sweat what college they are going to end up at too much. I'd spend more time helping them find their interests and ambitions. If they have those, they can build a fantastic life with their college choice being a small part of that. If they don't have those, no college choice is going to magically help them find those.
Sorry for the wild detour, but this is a topic I'm passionate about so I hope you'll forgive my rant.
