So…what’s everybody think? Was it justice or injustice keeping him out of the HoF for life?
Think he’ll get in posthumously?
Think he’ll get in posthumously?
RIP Pete Rose
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He was his own worst enemy and couldn’t get out of his own way, but I would have liked to see him in the Hall while he was alive.
It would have been good for the Reds and Cincinnati. I truly believed no one loved baseball more than he did.
No need to keep him out. I was a huge supporter of him getting in alive but it became evident he lied way too much
Damn!!!!!! Anyone who played that hard should have gotten in
Injustice.
I hate the Reds, but Rose should have gotten in with an asterisk.
Baseball (all sport) is about performance.
I always felt like they’d eventually let him in while he was still alive.
I guess not.
He does belong in the hall of fame though.
I guess not.
He does belong in the hall of fame though.
Never is a long time but I don't expect they will let him in any time soon. They should, though.
Wow. Just heard this. Just got back from working out and my bride told me after I showered.
He lied and he was a pretty scummy guy around the city. But I don’t believe he ever negatively impacted the score of a game or its ultimate outcome.
The thing I always appreciated about Rose is that he got more out of his natural ability than any other athlete I can think about. Jordan had a higher ceiling and probably got as close to his as Rose did.
I think it’s a travesty that he was denied induction to the HOF while alive. Bart Giamatti is the ultimate villain to the west side of Cincinnati. Westsiders might tear down the Hall if they try something now.
Rose was one of the greatest batters ever. He agreed to the lifetime ban, case closed.
The two greatest hitters ever are banned. Thats life.
The two greatest hitters ever are banned. Thats life.
You can't have a baseball HOF without the all time hits leader.
Harold Freaking Baines is in, but not Rose?
Harold Freaking Baines is in, but not Rose?
Compare that to Mantle. He never played sober. It’s hard enough to play slow pitch softball while in the bag. He’s in the discussion of best talents ever.
Pete was an ass but he competed
Something tells me Pete no longer gives a shit
Man, that’s cold.
Rose always expected a reprieve and some form of redemption.
Had Rose been given the honor, after all these years, he would have cried at the podium for half an hour. And you can bet that the HOFers at the induction would have been right there with him. There might be a couple of hard asses who might have boycotted but I’m convinced the great majority would have supported him.
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If Mantle hadn’t had all of the knee problems over the years he would have all the records.
Read something recently that included a quote from him that if you took all the times he walked or struck out there were essentially seven years when he didn’t touch a baseball.
Rose made a deal. The lifetime ban was not imposed against his will.
Right. But it preserved Rose’s right to apply for reinstatement at some future date, which was the real get for him.
How many baseball writers who vote on HOF nominees bet on sports?
Asking for a dead friend.
Asking for a dead friend.
He bet on games. He's out. Never let him in.
Mess with the integrity of the game, you're out. Simple.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericma...ose-should-never-be-admitted-to-hall-of-fame/ :
MLB Rule 21 provides that a player will be banned for life if he bets on a game in which he is involved. Here's the language of that Rule:
It is impossible for a player not to be aware of Rule 21. It's everywhere. It's posted in the clubhouse. It's in the shower. It's carved into soap. It's in the sandwiches. Every player every year acknowledges the rule in writing. The ubiquity of the rule underscores its importance. Rose knew the rule and broke it.
MLB Rule 21 provides that a player will be banned for life if he bets on a game in which he is involved. Here's the language of that Rule:
The Rule was put in place in 1927 after the Black Sox scandal of 1919, when eight Chicago White Sox were accused of throwing the World Series in exchange for money from gamblers. The scandal had the potential of toppling the game and MLB acted quickly by implementing Rule 21.
It is impossible for a player not to be aware of Rule 21. It's everywhere. It's posted in the clubhouse. It's in the shower. It's carved into soap. It's in the sandwiches. Every player every year acknowledges the rule in writing. The ubiquity of the rule underscores its importance. Rose knew the rule and broke it.
Wonder if that rule has been litigated. Rose settled if I remember right
I guess duty to perform means participates
MLB and the NBHOF&M are separate and distinct entities.
The latter passed a rule after all this went on with Rose which disqualified anybody on the permanent ineligible list from their ballots.
There’s no reason they couldn’t repeal that rule - independently of MLB’s rules.
