If the Tallen Complex budget was actually cut, thats highly upsetting, but it’s the fanbase and not Glass/athletic Department that is sending the wrong message. Glass can’t spend money he doesn’t have
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If the Tallen Complex budget was actually cut, thats highly upsetting, but it’s the fanbase and not Glass/athletic Department that is sending the wrong message. Glass can’t spend money he doesn’t have
Then you’re admitting that you’re not interested in the reality of the situation. Thanks for the acknowledgement.
Some of our fans must be living in a freaking cave. The Northwestern facility is now being called the gold standard of facilities in the U.S. and, yes, it is shared with other sports.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ya...-unparalleled-college-football-220858185.html
Yes, I’ve either formally toured or personally seen facilities throughout the Big 10. The distinctions are obvious is you’ve seen them.
I guess you are entitled to your oppion of what is nice and what is not nice. The upgrades to the stadium were a necessity. It at least looks like a division one stadium. Not really sure why we are getting the quality kids from Florida with our shared weight room and poor coaches. Not taking anything away from Indiana high school football because I do believe the MICis am outstanding high school conference but I will take 3 stars from Tampa and Miami over a 4 Star from West Lafayette or from Michigan as I am sitting here watching St Thomas Aquinas run Dematha out of the stadium. So if we can’t win recruiting battles in Indiana because of facilities I will take kids from Florida.
Lack of crowd in stands is more telling than a shared weight room
If you think Northwestern stadium or Purdue stadium or Rutgers or Maryland is better than Memorial then you are crazy
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What about stadium games are not played in football complex that is also a big part of football facilities
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The exterior of Byrd Stadium looked in dire need of some repair. Crumbling brick and concrete. Tight concourses underneath. Rust on the fencing. Wasn’t impressed.
So does DECADES of losing and lack of institutional support.
Guess I have to apologize for wanting winning football and feeling that what we have been doing isn’t enough.
No need to apologize we all want the same thing. I think the administration is finally trying to fulfill their end of the bargain and pumping money into the program. True they are not putting the money that the Ohio States and Clemson’s and Alabama’s of the world are putting in. It is now time for fans to step up fill the stadium. Shown the same passion for football as they do for basketball and that will do more to negate the negative recruiting.
We spend money on putting trees in parking lots rather
than increasing coaches salary.
Tallen made a donation. Maybe he reduced it or IU decided to spend some of the money elsewhere. I don’t know, but the renovations that were announced have been scaled back.
We could build a bigger Jerry Dome, but none of that matters if we don't have the proper people in place. Another no bowl season will officially be the end of any momentum IU had the last couple of years. Anybody know if FG has any expectations on this season? He was quoted as having none for the basketball team.
Get someone to let you inside the training facilities and go to a game to see the inside of the stadium, Very very nice.
I have been inside the PU training facility, it is very very nice. I went to the bucket game last year and Ross Ade is a dump with a brick wrapper. Their AV systems are three generations behinfpd IUs. IU put the last awesome scoreboard in left field of the baseball facility and it puts most D1 stadium boards to shame.
Those "years of football neglect" are clearly and thankfully in the rear view mirror. Now you may not like the coach hire and that has yet to play out, but no one can accurately or objectively say that things haven't changed for FB at IU in a big way.
Just let it play out and we’ll see where they land. Both have multiple 4-stars left on the board. Based on the changes in signing days, you should see teams signing players earlier.
I love CTA, have no issue with the hire, I love the improvements that have occurred, just looking for more. The “neglect’” may be in the rear view mirror, but it has left severe scars on the fan base. We need to win, and we need to give our staff every possible advantage, we cannot just keep up and think that will change our fortunes.
Yes, I’ve toured both, and Purdue’s facility is both superior and exclusive to football. Have you toured or ever set foot in either one?
No, I’m just telling truths that you and a few others would prefer not to hear.
Indiana should beat Purdue out for in-state talent 3 out of 4 times. Purdue simply does not have some great football program or tradition. Indiana should be a far easier sell, especially to Indianapolis area prospects.
All it would take is several top players from Indy to come down to Bloomington and have success to get the ball rolling. I'm talking the 4 and 5 star QB, RB, etc. Wilson was VERY close with the 2013 class. These kids would be legends in the state if they had big success.
I don't know why this can not happen??
All it would take is several top players from Indy to come down to Bloomington and have success to get the ball rolling. I'm talking the 4 and 5 star QB, RB, etc. Wilson was VERY close with the 2013 class. These kids would be legends in the state if they had big success.
I don't know why this can not happen??
I’m not asking for Alabama or Clemson facilities, but we need to be as good or better than Iowa or Purdue facilities. I’ve heard that FG has said he wants us to be at least like “Iowa good “ in football, well, we better have at least Iowa like tools to work with in order to get there, lord knows we are behind them in most metrics. Therefore, we need to have some advantages , some edge in order to catch up.
In fairness, what other fan base “fills” the stadium with our track record in the Big Ten ? The passion is there for basketball due to winning, and I don’t mean necessarily this year or last, but over time. In basketball we have a history of winning and a fan base that was built as a result. In football, we have a history of “tailgating” , students wear IU tailgate shirts, not IU football shirts on game day. That is due to history, the freshmen will learn it this year, and unless we start consistently winning , they will pass it is on to the freshman next year, and so on.
We need to give Tom Allen every possible advantage, that is all I want, because I believe he can win, but his path needs to be free of any obstacles we can clear.
Iowa arguably has the best facilities in the conference (Michigan has them on sheer size, but Iowa seems to be much better quality), and are probably aren’t too far behind Bama/Clemson
IU must have a transformative recruiter who can sell in state kids on the vision of being a part of building a championship program. Otherwise, I think too many kids with viable alternatives will go elsewhere. I know there’s a school of thought that says to get the best players, regardless of where they’re from, which I tend to agree with. Regardless, having a transformative recruiter would seem to be essential if Iu is to build a winning program. We’ll see.
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We can compete and win with: a) the HC we have now; and b) the facilities we have now. The obstacle we need to clear is ten straight losing seasons (and 23 of the last 24). A winning season is the sole missing piece. If we break through this year, Allen and staff will sign an even better incoming class than the most recent one, and we will be well-positioned to take things to another level. We just need to win - - now.
I can easily sit here and argue that Kevin Wilson was extremely close to stringing together several very special seasons. If you look back and closely examine his tenure, you will notice that he was one Tom Allen away from bowling 4-5 years in a row.
The 2015 season is the year before Allen arrived. I can realistically make a case that if Allen was our DC that year, IU wins 10 games and their bowl to equal 11 wins. It can be done here, Wilson was that damn close.
I don't think Debord is the answer at OC. I will be excited if this team makes a small bowl game and Debord then hangs it up. Tom can then bring in a young, creative OC that will showcase an offense that is attractive to top recruits.
The 2015 season is the year before Allen arrived. I can realistically make a case that if Allen was our DC that year, IU wins 10 games and their bowl to equal 11 wins. It can be done here, Wilson was that damn close.
I don't think Debord is the answer at OC. I will be excited if this team makes a small bowl game and Debord then hangs it up. Tom can then bring in a young, creative OC that will showcase an offense that is attractive to top recruits.
You didn’t answer my question.
Are you an IU season ticket holder and attend IU games for football.
Not currently a season ticket holder but attend roughly half of the games, home and away, using family tickets. Have had season tickets for most of the last few decades, though, which is why I’d so badly like IU to build a winning program. How about you?
I get optimistic every fall and think about how awesome it would be to win the East. When I actually take a step back and think about that, what a daunting task! I think we can beat one of the “big 4” but to take down all 4 or 3 of 4 in a season? I face reality. Hell... Bama would struggle year in and out with that. I know we have to walk before we run and who knows what the East will be in 3 years so instead of instant gratification, I’ll settle for slowly building and keep my optimism in check (for now).
Good post!! When you stated that Alabama would struggle to win the East division, reality quickly sets in. What a d!ckhead Delany is...!!!
How could the leaders of the Big Ten ever agree to this current alignment???
I would like to see pictures in a side by side format so we can truly see the differences between the programs. It's mindboggling to me, it really is, IU hasn't even cut the ribbons on the brand new South Endzone project!!!
However, if we are that far behind Purdue, Minnesota and Iowa, it's unacceptable. If it's a football weight room only issue, that seems very fixable.
gradman and fpeaugh are trolls. don't feed them.
that said, facilities are nice, but when everyone has great facilities, which everyone does, having solid gold toilets instead of just gold plated ones isn't the difference maker most here make it out to be.
our stadium looks great 358 days a yr.
if we can make it look as great as other stadiums the other 7 days a yr, that will help perception.
that's where the administration is failing the program today, and where the "commitment" is totally absent.
Does it matter? If so why? What if he was a season ticket holder that got tired of things and let the tickets go? I don’t know why it matters
So what do they need to do that they have not already done but put a winning team on the field
https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2018/8/24/17760924/fred-glass-has-one-thing-left-to-do
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