I don't see any big names knocking Archie's door down. Last I heard, Keon Brooks is going to Kentucky. As far Romeo Langford, he and some of the others on the team looked so disinterested.
Purdue is in the Final Four!
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LOL. Painter didn't even have a shot at Keion or Romeo (or TJD), and he has had stinker years before (including when he started): I'm guessing PU is due for another stinker year next year. But hey, you've got some pretty awesome role players coming back.
IDGAFF what you think about Archie. To rid the program of Crean's culture, you have to replace it with one based on sound principles. Last year was totally Crean's players. and culture This year was mostly Crean's team with a few freshman learning late in the season how Archie expects the team to play. Next year will have more new freshman as Archie builds a roster that will some day have upper classmen playing without any connection to the past. Archie will have a culture similar to what was successful at Dayton, except he will have better talent.
I would be concerned with your own program without Cline and Edwards. Porkchop will have missed out once again with the top 2 recruits in the state and likely Joey Brunk if he comes to IU. I can see why Pee U fans would be concerned. If you aren't concerned, you should be.
Looks like you forgot about Purdue recruit Brandon Newman. Who should challenge your TJD for Mr. Basketball. Also, you forgot about Gillis.
Says a Purdue fan trolling an IU Basketball blog after their team loses again. #littlebrobabyboiler
Romeo Langford will get drafted higher than your 5'10 mad chucker. You should get Mad Ants tickets now so you can see the PU superstar in action. Is Caleb Swanigan still in G-League? Maybe you can see them both in the same game?
Any other predictions? I predict IU will once again miss the tournament and be lower than Purdue in the standings next year.
How did it feel knowing one of the best recruits the state has had in decades couldn't even get you to the tournament? Yikes.
How does it feel knowing Purdue has never, nor will ever win a National Title.
But IU can.
That must be depressing.
Purdue is good but never great.
No, I didn't forget Newman. Was he a McDonald's All-American too? He will have to leapfrog over a few others to be Mr. Basketball as the #5 ranked player in the state. Franklin is #6. I was okay getting either Franklin or Newman. I like Franklin and I am curious which one Archie went after the hardest.
Consider in the 247 Recruiting rankings, IU's 2 man class (so far) is rated above your 3 man class. As far as individual rankings, IU's are 18 and 156 and yours are 128, 196, and 213.
With our 2 remaining scholarships, we have some nice players with us in their top 4-5. Brunk would be a great pickup. He was the #107 recruit when he came out of high school.
Tom Crean and Mike Davis have been to Final Fours, Gene and Matt haven't: LOL.
PURDUE SUCKS, PURDUE SUCKS, PURDUE SUCKS, PURDUE SUCKS!!!! You guys are going to suck ass next year.
It really sticks in the craw of PU fans that Romeo didn't give PU and Matt the time of day and that Matt can't recruit.
I think it is deeper than the coach. WL, the campus, that smell the last time I was near the football stadium, Mackey seems dark and gloomy, and frankly the atmosphere has a farm fresh feel that might not appeal to an urban kid. I know a kid that is driving a 1 ton Dodge diesel flat bed truck to Pud U. Strange vehicle to see on a campus, but not uncommon there.
Bud, given the pictures published and apologies offered because of the state of the IU stadium and the feces found there do you really think that it makes sense to write about smells at Ross-Ade? It does seem awfully strange to me to do that.
We were trying to make you idiots feel at home. Our shit didn't stink. Yours did. Either they decided to fertilize before game day in WL or the coeds were cleaning out their stalls that day.
How does it feel that your best ever coach Keady never made a Final Four, nor his protogee Painter.
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Three of those top 5, including Brooks in the rankings are from LaLumiere. The Indianapolis Star does not recognize non-IHSAA members for Mr. Basketball. They won't even be eligible for the Indiana All-Star team. Therefore, that leaves TJD and Newman for Mr. Basketball. TJD as IU recruit will most likely win.
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It's Pat! Heard it is down to her and the town's prized heifer for homecoming queen!
Jimbo, fresh from your incredibly dumb prediction about never getting past the S16 and proven totally wrong you get to pictures. First of all, I thought "lookism" was a no-no. The feminist association at IU is going to get after you for that.
But aside from that there is something that I do not understand. The B1G runs that "Love, Love" promo ad for B1G basketball during the games on the BTN. If you notice, the only girl that is focused upon is a blonde Purdue coed at the end of the ad. So if all the coeds there are unattractive, then why does the B1G pick the Purdue girl when IU is loaded with lookers as you guys claim? There is something in that meme of yours that is contradictory given the commercial.
But then we know, logic has never been your forte, which is rather surprising for a supposed attorney.
I was "way off" because it took Painter 15-16 years to make it past the Sweet 16 one time? Looks like I was pretty darn close. Nonetheless, there definitely is an Elite 8 ceiling: PU hasn't been to a Final Four since 1980, yet Mike Davis and Tom Crean have. It looks like Purdue can reach an Elite 8 a handful of times over 40 years: my bad, lol. And, it is indisputable that Painter sucks at recruiting.
Man, I am under your skin. Here you are on an IU site, and you just can't get enough of IU or me! PURDUE SUCKS, LOL!!!
Jimbo, you are sorely mistaken. You are not under my skin. I am rather amused by your inability to admit when you are DEAD WRONG as the result of YOUR SILLY PREDICTION. Now you compound the first by making a second. Obviously you do not learn from errors.
I get confused by contradiction: Painter is a bad coach because he has yet to reach a FF. Yet Davis and Crean are bad coaches but they reached a FF. So logically, I would conclude that if Crean and Davis are bad coaches, as has been asserted here, and they reached a FF, then reaching a FF is not a valid measure of coaching acumen.
For the sake of others here, I hope that they are not placing bets based upon your assurances these days. I seem to recall you predicting IU finishing well above Purdue in the B1G standings this past season. Perhaps the best way to bet is to fade your predictions.
Arrogance and wrong predictions are not a good combination. You might want to consider that.
I also note that you ignored the point about the ad. Another example of being proven wrong. I would also note that some friendly posters here have written that their wives are Purdue grads. It doesn't seem very nice to insult your fellow IU posters.
I get confused by contradiction: Painter is a bad coach because he has yet to reach a FF. Yet Davis and Crean are bad coaches but they reached a FF. So logically, I would conclude that if Crean and Davis are bad coaches, as has been asserted here, and they reached a FF, then reaching a FF is not a valid measure of coaching acumen.
For the sake of others here, I hope that they are not placing bets based upon your assurances these days. I seem to recall you predicting IU finishing well above Purdue in the B1G standings this past season. Perhaps the best way to bet is to fade your predictions.
Arrogance and wrong predictions are not a good combination. You might want to consider that.
I also note that you ignored the point about the ad. Another example of being proven wrong. I would also note that some friendly posters here have written that their wives are Purdue grads. It doesn't seem very nice to insult your fellow IU posters.
It took a few days, but the slimy silver trail of embittered IU-obsessed trolls reappears as you simply can't stay away,
Jimbo, you made your "never happen" prediction within the last month. It did not age well. Your prediction is not 15 or so years old. You are intentionally misstating fact. While it took a while for Purdue to get past the S16 your prediction was made far more recently - and it concerned the future. What is relevant is the longevity and accuracy of your prediction.
As an attorney (supposed), you should remember what they say in the mutual fund ads: "Past performance is no guarantee of future results." That applies to a lot of things.
Why do I suspect that you didn't make Law Review?
As an attorney (supposed), you should remember what they say in the mutual fund ads: "Past performance is no guarantee of future results." That applies to a lot of things.
Why do I suspect that you didn't make Law Review?
Thank you! Since you are a dumbass, I am now sure we will make it.
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Or, as a superior basketball player as compared to Newman, TJD will win Mr. Basketball. It is funny how you pointed out the little brother scenario in your prediction though, that just because someone is going to IU that they will win the title. Now, suck on this....
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
The fact is, a Donut Shop, for advertising purposes, named the broilees mythical champs seven years after the season, along with 30 other schools over the prior years. Did you know that? I laugh at your response, silly broilee... no one recognizes this as legitimate. A donut shop, lol.
"Founded in 1936 by Bill Schroeder and Paul Helms, the Helms Athletic Foundation was based in Los Angeles, California. The name was a misnomer, as there actually was no foundation in place to sustain the operation. Instead the organization was subsidized completely by the Paul Helms Bakery operations.[1] Schroeder selected the foundation's national champion teams and made All-America team selections in a number of college sports, including football and basketball.[2] He continued to select national champions for the Helms Foundation until 1982, its final year of selections. Schroeder also RETROACTIVELY selected national champions in college football dating from 1947[2][1] back to the 1883 season and in college basketball from 1942[1][3] back to the 1900–01 season. The Helms Foundation also operated a hall of fame for both college sports. The retroactive Helms titles were the opinions of ONE PERSON about teams that played during"
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That wasn't an Elite 8, that was a Title game. When was Pee U in a championship game? The NIT that IU beat Purdue for the title doesn't count.
It would seem that the difficulty that your school has had getting to the Elite 8 would cause you to respect what our program has done.
Your people will never understand winning a national championship and being a program with national visibility. Winning 20 games and winning a game or two in the NCAA isn't our goal. We strive to compete on a national level for recruits and titles. We are a long way from doing that, but we won't stop working until that happens.
There is a reason IU can have a sub par year and still draw UNC or Duke in the B1G/ACC challenge. We are a nationally recognized program that will create good ratings. Pee U is a regional program. It will be interesting how the challenge is scheduled this coming season.
Outside the Midwest, nobody knows any of your program's history (because there isn't a history). I've heard Pee U was very good and racked up a lot of wins before WWII. The Helms title you are proud of is something IU has been awarded more than once, but we don't mention them until one of your people bring them up. It isn't recognized as a national championship.
Bud, you are making the same mistake as your colleague, Jimbo, with the use of the "never." You are also in error on another thing: I am not really concerned about the Helm's title. It is a fact that it exists. The fact that it exists means logically that the claim of not having one is simply false. I prefer accuracy in statements.
You may/may not recall that Sean Connery said he would not make another Bond film. Later he did; the title: "Never Say Never." The future is unknown to us all so Black Swan events can happen and others more probable than that do occur.
I do find it ironic that within an hour of your post claiming that Purdue has no national visibility being put up Painter was awarded the NABC CoY by his professional colleagues. But I am sure that you know much more about his skills than they do. (dws.) It's just that the pesky data keeps getting in the way of your opinion.
Champs, I am confused. On the very page of this post, there are posts claiming that a voted title is not valid and should not be recognized. But if TJD get Mr. BB, isn't that a voted title? So I am looking at a contradiction it seems. There appears to be a bit of doublespeak going on.
I've got a non attorney lecturing me about law school, actually being an attorney, and logic: that's just silly and ignorant. I'm going to go find a musician or doctor and lecture them about their professions, lol. You do understand that IU has law schools and people graduate from them from time to time?
Fact: Mike Davis and Tom Crean have been to Final Fours, and Gene and Matt never have and never will. PU's last Final Four was 1980: fact. Matt Painter sucks at recruiting: fact. Purdue sucks: fact!
I can't believe how much I am in your head and under your skin, lol.
Jimbo, I know a bit about law school. I have a number of close relatives and a sibling who went to law school. Btw, he made Review. You're not a recruiter, but you can make judgments about recruiting. So why can't a non-attorney make judgments about attorneys? There's that logic and contradiction problem that you have and it keeps recurring. LOL
That doesn't make you an attorney. Get into law school, graduate, pass the bar, and start practicing, and then we'll talk.
That is a false equivalence. It isn't too hard to take a look at recruiting rankings and see if Matt Painter is landing any of them. Painter has landed one 5* ever, and it was a legacy. Matt's and or PU's shortcomings in recruiting are why the Elite 8 ceiling exists.
I would be more proud of your NIT title in the 70's than a Helms title. At least it was won on the court.
Good for Painter. You should give him a raise. I would expect someone will be offering him a job.
Outside the Midwest, people don't know anything about your program. Until you win something or come close to doing it, I will say Pee U will never win an NCAA title. If Edwards comes back and can score 30-40 points per game again, you have a chance at getting back to the Elite 8. Any team could say the same. To get farther, you will need more than the talent that surrounds him. Without him you could be like IU this year.
I’m going to wait to laugh at Purdue
until after the season. They were a scramble away and a missed free throw by a 90% shooter from the final four. Somwhere we haven’t gotten close to in 17 years. I thought they were going to suck this year. Obviously I was wrong. I just hope IU can make the tournament next year.
until after the season. They were a scramble away and a missed free throw by a 90% shooter from the final four. Somwhere we haven’t gotten close to in 17 years. I thought they were going to suck this year. Obviously I was wrong. I just hope IU can make the tournament next year.
I have a hard time arguing against Painter getting COY That team looked pretty shaky early in the season. By the end, they could hang with anybody.
Well deserved.
Well deserved.
You also claimed it was a fact that Painter wouldn't get past the Sweet 16 and look how that turned out for you. If in fact Painter sucks at recruiting and Purdue sucks, what does that say about IU? Would a casual observer actually prefer Archie over Painter? Doubtful
Well, that's like your opinion man. Not a fact.
Even if Carsen leaves, I'd be shocked if they were that bad. I don't see them losing 12 out of 13 like you guys did.
Please point out anywhere in my post that I referred to your Helms trophy. I have no idea if that is something that is voted on or did a doughnut dude just hand it to PU. I simply pointed out your inferiority complex (little brother disease) thinking that someone will win Mr. Basketball just because they went to IU versus PU.
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