I don’t know how you get noticed though bc at this point all of social media is so saturatedI feel like I could make a killing doing that. Have two accounts, one for the left loonies and one for the right loonies.
I don’t know how you get noticed though bc at this point all of social media is so saturatedI feel like I could make a killing doing that. Have two accounts, one for the left loonies and one for the right loonies.
Social media misinformation is a problem. Look at the attempt on Trump. A large number here believe firmly it was setup. Social media didn't contribute to that?
And to add, I know progressives saying it was a false flag. Again, social media certainly plays a role.
It sounds good that people will research and draw informed conclusions. That does not seem to be happening. If Twitter handle "IWillLieAboutTheOtherSide" posts something, and "TheOrherSideSux" reposts it, that is confirmation and final proof.
Clearly blocking speech is bad. But so is flat out lying. If people penalized handles by unfollowing, there would be a little effort to post more toward reality. At least within a light year. As is, there is no reason to do anything but carry on lying.
Make your profile pic a baddie, for one.I don’t know how you get noticed though bc at this point all of social media is so saturated
Think of this. Barstool sports is now over 20 years old. Everything is too Fing saturated. Best bet is to follow @larsIU to Africa and get something cookin over thereMake your profile pic a baddie, for one.
I suspect several regulars here follow Laura Loomer.Lots of people of "her ilk" post here on the regular
No, re Holmes' analogy and calling it dicta. The SCt doesnt have to rule something is illegal for it to be illegal.
An analogy: If the Court was referring in its reasoning (or its dicta, there is a difference) to how someone could be charged with a crime for launching a nuclear weapon without authorization, while that has never been before the court before and the ultimate decision could be overturned, it would not make launching a nuclear weapon without authorization legal.
It is as illegal today as it was in 1917 for someone to "falsely shout[] fire in a theatre and causing a panic.” That people drop the "falsely" and "causing a panic" is a bit lazy, but widespread, and isn't that big of a deal, I don't think, since I think most everyone understands the concept.
I 100% back you on the care with which we handle censoring "misinformation."
English I think is the official language.I mean, maybe we do the same thing, only with that growing Nigerian audience. @larsIU what language do they write in?
Think of this. Barstool sports is now over 20 years old. Everything is too Fing saturated. Best bet is to follow @larsIU to Africa and get something cookin over there
English. I could open a BPO shop down there. But by the time I'll be there I'll be retired and I won't wanna do any shit like that.I mean, maybe we do the same thing, only with that growing Nigerian audience. @larsIU what language do they write in?
We’d fcking run that place in no time.English. I could open a BPO shop down there. But by the time I'll be there I'll be retired and I won't wanna do any shit like that.
If you need a broker though, call me.
If you guys had any idea how many votes from women this kind of crap is drumming up. I knew this is what the right would do and it’s playing right into Dems’ hands. Keep it up. Backing a sexual abuser while trying to shame a woman for having a sex life while NOT married. That’s gonna play real well. The stupidity.
Yeah. I’ll believe it when I see it. IIRC, Biden and Obama both won a larger share of women than Hillary. The idea that she’s a woman and has some jokes made at her expense is no guarantor that she’ll over perform with women.If you guys had any idea how many votes from women this kind of crap is drumming up. I knew this is what the right would do and it’s playing right into Dems’ hands. Keep it up. Backing a sexual abuser while trying to shame a woman for having a sex life while NOT married. That’s gonna play real well. The stupidity.
It's nuts really. At some freaking point investment will come. Probably my last chance to get luck in anything involving money.We’d fcking run that place in no time.
@BradStevens brad where are you????
In a yellow van outside of a market
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I don't think it is so obvious that it is dicta. I was taught that there are more parts of a legal opinion than just a holding and dicta. For example, there are parts of the opinion that are not the holding, but part of the reasoning, and they hold more weight than "mere [or obiter] dicta." I'd argue Holmes' analogy is part of the reasoning that leads him to his conclusion.Well, I'm not just calling it dicta. It was dicta. Remember that Holmes wasn't expressing that as his sentiment of what he believed the law says. He was expressing it as an example of something that he would surmise as being beyond the protection of the most stringent interpretation of protected speech. Here are his exact words:
The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic... The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.
That's dicta.
And, no, it is not necessarily illegal today for somebody to falsely shout fire in a theatre. Because, again, one could have reason to believe there was one even if there wasn't one. What if food was merely burning in the oven? Or burning a candle?
But once again...my point here is about misinformation on social media. I found it ironic that IU_Hickory misused the analogy (as many people misuse it) in such a way as to literally render his statement, as written, as false. Since it was false, it was misinformation -- so by his own stated opinion should thus be subject to censorship by the moderators.
But that would be absurd. He shouldn't be censored. He should be corrected.
It’s massive. Wow. Lagos has almost 20 million people. Amazing. What are the beaches like?It's nuts really. At some freaking point investment will come. Probably my last chance to get luck in anything involving money.
You think that the Dobbs decision will have no effect at all on women voter turnout? Do you know any non-Trumper women?Biden and Obama both won a larger share of women than Hillary. The idea that she’s a woman and has some jokes made at her expense is no guarantor that she’ll over perform with women.
Yes, Biden seldom belabored the Dobbs decision. 🙄You think that the Dobbs decision will have no effect at all on women voter turnout? Do you know any non-Trumper women?
There has been a cooling off period, but it's still a factor. And Kamala will remind them of it, where Biden seldom did.
I was taught that there are more parts of a legal opinion than just a holding and dicta. For example, there are parts of the opinion that are not the holding, but part of the reasoning, and they hold more weight than "mere [or obiter] dicta." I'd argue Holmes' analogy is part of the reasoning that leads him to his conclusion.
Here's one article on the topic:
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Holding or Dicta? – North Carolina Criminal Law
In the comments to a blog post I wrote about using unpublished cases, one reader suggested a follow-up topic: "Should do an article on dicta; what is itnccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu
To buttress my claim, I'd point to the very fact you're pointing out--that the only thing people remember from that case is Holmes's reasoning, because it is so commonsensical and his example so vividly displays the point. In fact, the example is so intuitive, you can drop off some of the key words and still understand the reasoning really well.
Re your example, it appears you're arguing that mens rea is required for a crime. That's a given.
Again, I agree with your overall point. I'm just combatting what I think is a mischaracterization of that phrase by not just you, but a lot of (other? are you a lawyer?) really smart lawyers who care a lot about free speech.
I'll give you dems credit for one thing. Your party just f*cked you up the rear with no lube and you're accepting it. They lied about Joe to the point where you didn't even get to choose your own candidate. That alone would have me pissed. Then they placed a candidate in the dem spot that got her ass completely handed to her in 2020 debates. Joe took her as a DEI hire and the first "black" candidate after California claimed her senate victory a first for "Indian American". Now after 3.5 years of her fumbling around making a fool of herself which some of you have admitted, you accept this outcome.If you guys had any idea how many votes from women this kind of crap is drumming up. I knew this is what the right would do and it’s playing right into Dems’ hands. Keep it up. Backing a sexual abuser while trying to shame a woman for having a sex life while NOT married. That’s gonna play real well. The stupidity.
I’ll see you in November. You should see the groups organizing on social media. The fundraising didn’t give you an idea? You know anything about black women’s sororities? Hillary was attached for decades as the devil, but at least they didn’t use this ugly sexual crap.Yeah. I’ll believe it when I see it. IIRC, Biden and Obama both won a larger share of women than Hillary. The idea that she’s a woman and has some jokes made at her expense is no guarantor that she’ll over perform with women.
Haha. Let me know when my party runs a sexual predator who is one of the most despised men in the world, due to his corruptness and ineptitude. And then doesn’t get rid of him when they have the chance. You aren’t smart enough to be upset at that? And yoire talking about Kamala making a fool of herself when Trump is your candidate? An international laughingstock? Good one.I'll give you dems credit for one thing. Your party just f*cked you up the rear with no lube and you're accepting it. They lied about Joe to the point where you didn't even get to choose your own candidate. That alone would have me pissed. Then they placed a candidate in the dem spot that got her ass completely handed to her in 2020 debates. Joe took her as a DEI hire and the first "black" candidate after California claimed her senate victory a first for "Indian American". Now after 3.5 years of her fumbling around making a fool of herself which some of you have admitted, you accept this outcome.
Wow!
I don't get the concept behind the idea that Brown and Kamala openly dating 30 yrs ago is supposed to be some sort of "scandal"? Especially when the main proponents attempting to make hay out of a nothingburger are people that support Donald Trump? A man who slept with a porn star while he THIRD wife was at home with a newborn. A man that basically cheated on his first wife with his second wife and repeated the pattern continuously. He's got 5 kids, and the only thing they all have in common is that Trump ****ed aound on each of their respective mothers...
"Statements in an opinion that fall outside of what was necessary to decide the issue at hand are deemed dicta, and they are not considered binding precedent in future cases. See State v. Breathette, 202 N.C. App. 697 (2010) (defining dicta), citing State v. Jackson, 353 N.C. 495 (2001) (“general expressions” that “go beyond the case […] may be respected, but ought not to control the judgment in a subsequent suit where the very point is presented for decision”). More specifically, remarks that are wholly “incidental to the disposition of the case” or “directed at issues upon which no formal arguments have been heard” are classified as obiter dicta (Latin for “by the way” or “said in passing”) and such statements “are not considered being precedent and should be distinguished from the ratio decidendi [reasoning in English--added by BS] which provides the basis of the court’s ruling.” Chandler, Enslen, and Renstrom, “Obiter Dictum,” Con. Law Dsk., § 8:82 (2020)."My reading of that piece is that it's just discerning between dicta and holding. Is there a part of it where they declare some third category that is neither holding nor dicta, but reasoning?
The fact that they are ignoring nearly every election since the decision. Women aren’t forgetting that men don’t trust them to make their own decisions about their bodies. And this sex nonsense goes right along with it.You think that the Dobbs decision will have no effect at all on women voter turnout? Do you know any non-Trumper women?
There has been a cooling off period, but it's still a factor. And Kamala will remind them of it, where Biden seldom did.
But she gave him a blow job!!!! This is scandalous to Republicans! Missionary only.I don't get the concept behind the idea that Brown and Kamala openly dating 30 yrs ago is supposed to be some sort of "scandal"? Especially when the main proponents attempting to make hay out of a nothingburger are people that support Donald Trump? A man who slept with a porn star while he THIRD wife was at home with a newborn. A man that basically cheated on his first wife with his second wife and repeated the pattern continuously. He's got 5 kids, and the only thing they all have in common is that Trump ****ed aound on each of their respective mothers...
But aside from that, Brown and Harris dated.He had been seperated from his wife for a decade, and she was not married. So now in MAGA world politicians aren't allowed to date who they want? And two people who are dating are not allowed to work together in the same field, in this case politics?
Actually I don't think she was in politics. He was a CA State assemblyman who had been estranged from his wife Blanche since at least 1981, when he met the single Harris in the mid 90s. Thewy dated for about a year,from 1994-95. After they broke up Brown later ran for Mayor of SF, and almost a decade later in 2003 Harris initially ran for office in he SF AG race.
I'm not even sure why Trump or anyone connected with him would think this would resonate with anyone outside MAGA cult, or why they'd even want to bring it up? The year that Brown and Harris dated roughly coincides with the time Trump raped EJC in a dressing room. And any claim of an extra marital affair "scandal" instantly brings to mind Stormy Daniels...
It's like Trump supporters are oblivious to the fact that when you are yourself or when you support a scumbag there really is no moral high ground for you to try and claim...
Zeke don't go there...You know damn well Biden showered with his daughter it was confirmed! You buy anything they tell you about the Don we get it...Haha. Let me know when my party runs a sexual predator who is one of the most despised men in the world, due to his corruptness and ineptitude. And then doesn’t get rid of him when they have the chance. You aren’t smart enough to be upset at that? And yoire talking about Kamala making a fool of herself when Trump is your candidate? An international laughingstock? Good one.
I think the criticism is more along the lines of she clearly slept with him to advance her career, and less about the affair itself.I don't get the concept behind the idea that Brown and Kamala openly dating 30 yrs ago is supposed to be some sort of "scandal"? Especially when the main proponents attempting to make hay out of a nothingburger are people that support Donald Trump? A man who slept with a porn star while he THIRD wife was at home with a newborn. A man that basically cheated on his first wife with his second wife and repeated the pattern continuously. He's got 5 kids, and the only thing they all have in common is that Trump ****ed aound on each of their respective mothers...
But aside from that, Brown and Harris dated.He had been seperated from his wife for a decade, and she was not married. So now in MAGA world politicians aren't allowed to date who they want? And two people who are dating are not allowed to work together in the same field, in this case politics?
Actually I don't think she was in politics. He was a CA State assemblyman who had been estranged from his wife Blanche since at least 1981, when he met the single Harris in the mid 90s. Thewy dated for about a year,from 1994-95. After they broke up Brown later ran for Mayor of SF, and almost a decade later in 2003 Harris initially ran for office in he SF AG race.
I'm not even sure why Trump or anyone connected with him would think this would resonate with anyone outside MAGA cult, or why they'd even want to bring it up? The year that Brown and Harris dated roughly coincides with the time Trump raped EJC in a dressing room. And any claim of an extra marital affair "scandal" instantly brings to mind Stormy Daniels...
It's like Trump supporters are oblivious to the fact that when you are yourself or when you support a scumbag there really is no moral high ground for you to try and claim...
Well email has long been used to disseminate BS, too. So has text messaging. So have telephones. So, I would argue, have professionally produced and edited newspapers, magazines, TV programs, etc. However, this last groups are publishers, not interactive communications platforms, and so are treated differently under the law.
Social media platforms are *not* publishers. Nor should we want them to be. They are platforms for people to communicate with each other and should be treated as such -- legally and otherwise. As such, they're more akin to email, text, and telephones than they are to publishers.
The best answer to "IWill LieAboutTheOtherSide" is for other people to call them out. And, as somebody else mentioned, the Community Notes feature is a great algorithmic truth referee. Even Elon Musk himself has been corrected by Community Notes -- which I thought was spectacular.
Anyway, I fully realize that the 1A's speech protection doesn't apply to private entities, whether they're platforms or publishers. But it's a mistake to think that the social virtue of free speech is limited to what the 1A protects.
So, yeah, lying on social media is a bad thing. And so is blocking speech. I fully agree with both of those statements. But I think that uncensored speech should prevail, when those two things are hanging in the balance...and that the proper antidote to lies is not censorship, but truth.
Zimbabwe. Landlocked. The only beaches have crocs and hippos.It’s massive. Wow. Lagos has almost 20 million people. Amazing. What are the beaches like?
You’re paying attention to a poll two days after Harris has been the nominee? As I said in another thread, many women believe that a federal ban is the final goal and plan, whether Trump admits it or not. This is what many Republican legislators want and they’ve been very clear about it. Sorry if women have difficulty trusting what Donald Trump says.Yes, Biden seldom belabored the Dobbs decision. 🙄
It appears that in states with abortion on the ballot, Republicans are probably hurt somewhat. But it shouldn’t be enough for Trump to blow this especially given how he’s triangulated on the issue.
Most of the battlegrounds have pretty liberal abortion laws in the books already that aren’t being threatened. I think with the exception of Arizona where Trump has a 6 point lead on Harris.
I had to look up Loomer. Had no idea who she is. Interesting that she’s described as a white nationalist and she’s Jewish! Obviously, she’s completely uninformed and has no sense of reality.
My neighbor across the street makes a killing on Amazon each election. He sells signs to both sides.I feel like I could make a killing doing that. Have two accounts, one for the left loonies and one for the right loonies.
Stop speaking for women.You’re paying attention to a poll two days after Harris has been the nominee? As I said in another thread, many women believe that a federal ban is the final goal and plan, whether Trump admits it or not. This is what many Republican legislators want and they’ve been very clear about it. Sorry if women have difficulty trusting what Donald Trump says.
Meaner than shit. My daughter and I watched all those shows when she was littleZimbabwe. Landlocked. The only beaches have crocs and hippos.
Nobody messes with hippos
Lol yeah it was confirmed by whom exactly? Oh right his daughter said it didn’t happen. Nice try. I’m not the least bit upset. I’m ready to roll. I don’t have to back a stupid lunatic for a candidate.Zeke don't go there...You know damn well Biden showered with his daughter it was confirmed! You buy anything they tell you about the Don we get it...
BUT thats not the point. You got screwed every which way you can imagine by your party, and you all act like it's ok.
My point is you just got a candidate handed to you without any process. Everything I stated was true. I would think some of the sane thinking dems (if there are any left) would be upset about the position you are in.
Haha. Ok I’ll speak for men. Dumb.Stop speaking for women.
To the extent any of the male posters think they are “speaking for men” on this board, they’re being dumb.Haha. Ok I’ll speak for men. Dumb.
Now that would be a battle. On the beach and a Hippo strolls in for a dip. Sitting underwater and a great white comes in the picture. Who ya got?Zimbabwe. Landlocked. The only beaches have crocs and hippos.
Nobody messes with hippos