Biden desparately needed some kind of win, going into the election for Harris, since his economy is about to go belly up.These guys weren't impressed by Joes deal... Business Insider usually ties the DNC line when comes to political analysis so this is a big departure for them...
Putin got a pretty great deal, experts say
Russia freed US captives in a major prisoner swap, hailed by Biden as a "feat of diplomacy," but experts say Putin may have more to gain from it.www.businessinsider.com
I'm still amazed they left Fogel behind (Again)...
Evidently the Biden/Harris team hates straight males from Pennsylvania...
Prisoner swap
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But that falls on deaf ears if I’m indifferent towards democrats. That’s what you don’t understand. This ain’t a zero sum game.
Said another way. You have successfully triggered an Independent. Not sure how that helps the GOP cause.
And then you telling me I’m insane and a communist if I vote for democrats isn’t going to help either.
I can't figure out if this guy is a major troll? Or if he's just MAGA butthurt lashing out because he knows deep down that Trump is toast?...
Thats btw me and aloha.
I have serious issues with democrats and this admin. I lived here a long time on this planet even remember as a small child the Kennedy's and MLK assassinations. To watch the persecution and assassination attempt of a former president sickens me and makes me realize something is truly wrong! As @mcmurtry66 said in a recent post this board is like Groundhog Day and most of us are sick of arguing points that just go in a vicious circle. It's been that way for years here.
You have dems that are not going to change and think whatever the msm says is gospel. You have a strong TDS contingent that is bat sh!t crazy. You have independents. You have Trumpers who are sick and tired of a corrupt government, msm and every 3 letter agency, and you have old school pubs which are non existent anymore. The dems and old school pubs cling to bought and paid congressman and senators that say one thing and do another and people still buy that sh!t. I know one thing they hate Trump for reasons I can only imagine that he may expose. It's like watching Julian Assange ready to push a button and release hell on DC.
As far as you go make up your own mind. I'm in the Trumper group ONLY because I think DC is a cesspool of corruption and I want the whole thing blown up along with every elitist that buys these politicians. I also think term limits is the best thing that could happen to prevent some of this corruption but here we are still talking about it.
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I think you pretty well cover why people vote for Trump. They’ve watched the years of failure of career politicians like Biden. Their only real accomplishments are living off the American Taxpayers. For the Trump voters “he’s not them”.
I believe the only way DC might get cleaned up is term limits. I’d make it 8 years for everyone.
Ohhh Gawd.
Nancy Pelosi when she got elected... Look how far we've come we have color now. Hahaha
I appreciate the reasoned response. I could nit pick and counter point things , but that just delves us into those viscous cycle of whataboutism
I do not think Democrats are a threat to democracy. I do not think MAGA is a threat to democracy. I find certain aspects of both sides to be just so stupid and unrealistic and basically ignorant to the Fact that not everyone cares about what they care about, and there is probably 40%-50% of your constituents who hate what you stand for.
I just wish we legitimately had more than two parties. I see no point in my future where is register as a dem or gop. I’m too complicated of a guy for that 😎.
If you don't think MAGA is a threat to democracy, where are all your posts condemning Democrats for making that central point of their argument for the last 8 years?
C'mon..... if you want to advance the discussion here, stop claiming to be an 'independent' and just argue for what you believe. All you're doing is whining "Oh, everyone is so mean" "Oh, I wish we had more than 2 Parties"....
Start proposing solutions instead of complaining.
Yes or else one six year term.
I would agree with that, with the ability to have them be able to run again after 6 years. Or maybe run for the other Senate seat after 4 years.
Are you yearning for a Macron getting in bed with socialists or more of a Netanyahu getting in bed with religious zealots? Which one would you like to see come to America?
A two party system is effective at alienating the radicals. You start introducing more parties and you have some strange bedfellows.
In order to have the 3rd party you would need some strong financial backing. I doubt that will ever happen. Someone correct me if I'm wrong the last guy to even gain a little steam was Ross Perot? I could elaborate further, but IDK if your views are same as mine on who is backing and running things.
I know it's just a clip, but this kind of talk is what has him disqualified for a good many people.
He can't keep his damn mouth shut.
I hope his team is dumb enough to allow him to keep proping up Putin... that'll play out well for him.
You’re talking about this in terms of electoral politics.
I’m talking about it in the sense of what is true. Putin ripped us off.
I was replying to him congratulating Putin.
How do you think giving him props is going to play out with anyone else not already on the right?
You are still talking in terms of electoral politics. Congratulating Putin, can be a good or bad thing depending on the circumstance.
Congratulating Putin on anything is going to do nothing but turn off independents that he would have a chance with.
He vomits words that shouldn't come out of his mouth during an election year because he loves to hear himself talk. If he just shut up, he'd have run away with this but now he's got a chance to lose to his opponent who couldn't even get out of the primary four years ago.
He may just lose because of that. At least he’s saying stuff that’s true.
See, that's an opinion, not fact.
For people on the right, it might be okay for him to congratulate him, but that's the kind of talk that dems will latch onto and fire up their base.
Not a winning strategy at all.
Still talking in terms of electoral politics. You have a disease. Not capable of evaluating or engaging with people outside of a political circumstance. A sick freak is what you are.
Sick freak is a new one to me.
I'll ask my wife if she agrees. Maybe it'll play out well for me tonight.
Hmm. You got me in a box here. Give me a problem, and I'll tell you my solution!
I mean ya, you are kinda right. I complain because I think the nutso extremes of both parties make politics insufferable for everyone else. Like, calling for the elimination for Israel is nuts and stupid and decisive. Saying Ukraine isn't our problem, is also nuts and stupid.
Why is Ukraine our problem? Do
You earnestly believe that Putin will try to invade a NATO country? Are you that stupid?
Let him have half of Ukraine. That half would prefer to be Russian anyway.
I don't think that kind of talk should disqualify him. His framing is shocking, but he's actually doing that consciously. He's clearly treating Putin as a rival in a competition, there, not a great guy.
I'm more concerned with his off-the-cuff hyperbole that isn't well thought out and is dangerous--that's the kind of stuff that should give people pause.
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It is like we are trading from a position of weakness. Why are we the weak ones?
Pulling out all the stops to get our hostages released makes us weak?
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