Oh well. Maybe we have a guy who isn’t just pandering
President Trump's Executive Actions (orders, proclamations, etc.)
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Remember we can’t take everything President Trump says seriously. Cutting defense spending in half is one of those things. The odds of that are 1 in a trillion and that’s generous.
If self-described limited government conservatives can’t stomach temporary decreases (interruptions…whatever is the correct term) in federal employment how in the hell will they handle an actual decrease in the size of the federal workforce?
Bullshit. As crazed said how many chances has there been. We finally have bold actions
I think we really need to be honest with ourselves…we want to continue to bitch about it but we don’t want any of our buddies to be adversely affected (lose their jobs)
He's not according to people in the white house.
These people getting shitcanned will find other good gigs. They aren’t derelicts unemployable.
It says in the first paragraph he’s leading the cause. Are we just so worried about titles that we’re going to paralyze ourselves? And we wonder why gov is inefficient
If I was operating from the premise that every government job is unnecessary and every government worker is worthless, I’d agree with you. That premise is bullshit.
it's more that doing it this way just means the next Dem prez will EO everything right back and probably then some.
If he's leading the charge... cool. Name him then. Why the secrecy behind who is leading the agency responsible for all the cuts is all anyone is asking, which shouldn't be such a big deal.
Transparency and all....
I’m seeing good DoD organizations with important missions being adversely impacted. I expect there will be some embarrassing mission failures within government fairly soon.
Yeah…a guy I went to school with was complaining on social media (according to my boss) about losing his job as a probationary employee. Guess what he is….a damn physician.
I am completely comfortable in my uncomfortableness with all of this even though I agree with some of the things being cut.
Such as?
They've only been looking at the DOD for what..., 2 or 3 days?
If the mission package is so fragile that losing a couple of first year probationary civilian employees will wreck it then I'd have to suggest that someone didn't do a very good job of setting it up...
Cross-training redundancy is usually the key for most successful mission structures... If it wasn't set it up well enough to survive a little reduction in force (at the lowest levels) then the mission either isn't really that important or the leadership is severely lacking... (or perhaps both)...
Hiring freeze and firing probationary employees is having a big negative impact - that was across the board. They originally thought they were exempt because what they do impacts national security. It's also not only at the lowest levels. It's impacting GS13s, 14s, and 15s too. Plus, the administration is asking for so much information that answering that is taking all of their time. These are very hard-working people. Most of them former military. They believe in their mission because it's important. They're not happy in the least. They're working hard to keep the train on the tracks, but it's unsustainable. Expect some mission failures that will be very embarrassing for the administration.
It's essentially Trump:
folks might agree if all the other DOGE cuts to date were well communicated, well crafted, well executed. they weren't. but it's cool because, ya know, redundancies. 🤡
Trump issues EO expanding IVF treatment, seeking to bring down costs of same.
What is he doing signing EOs in FLA? I thought all feds were no longer going to be able to work from Home.
2012, but I worked with DoD and DoS (less) leaders in my civilian job too. I only retired from that job in August. I keep in touch with many still working.
A lot of Feds go back on probationary status if they change jobs/agencies (or even promoted into a supervisory position as an example)... Even if they've been in the govt for years/decades.
Rumor is that DoD probationary employees are going to be fired at the end of the week. To give an idea of how ham fisted this has been, they still had Defense jobs that were hiring after most other areas were told to freeze. So now people that were hired in the last month would be on the chopping block to be let go.
ETA: And as Twenty pointed out above, so would some of the best employees who had the "misfortune" of doing such terrible things as being good enough at their job to get promoted.
Yep. When promoted, they start the higher level job on probation too. This is a real cluster ****.
I've said it before. What remains of the govt after all of this will be the dregs. Those that have no other job options and have been sitting in the same chair for 20 years. What moderately competent person will think of taking a Federal job in the next decade? It's one main benefit... Job security.... Has been taken out behind the shed and shot dead
I was reading a book last night and they estimated the costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars will end up costing 13 trillion dollars. Once you calculate interest and the ongoing costs of all the soldiers who served in the wars. It’s insane.
You surely realize that what you posted includes Trump, 2016-20. Trump had control of Congress for at least two year of his first term.
And we got run out of the country by a bunch of goat herders. smdh
That's what happens when the enemy plays under one set of rules you and play under another.
Of course I realize that. Don’t mistake me for a hardcore partisan.
I just want to see costs brought under control.
And that doesn't even begin to assess the human death toll in the Middle East caused by those wars.
One of the worst mistakes in US foreign policy history.
And 90% of all Trump voters were gung ho for the the Iraq war 20 years ago. And now they all wash their hands while collecting SS checks.
They sure weren't marching with Code Pink... If anyone still remembers that.
Not to be a dick, but I wonder how many people cheering people getting fired because of the deficit collect a Social Security check and don't see the irony....
