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pelosi husband got beat up in his home

How do you know she doesn’t?

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You’re seriously retweeting a post that expects Pelosi gets Secret Service protection?

Why don’t you sit this one out?
This makes sense to you?

Why was the glass broken outside?

The Pelosi's don't have an alarm system in SF?

Where is the home surveillance footage?

Where is the footage from the neighbors surveillance video?

The Pelosi's have no security at all when Nancy is gone?

Why was the guy in his underwear

If Paul had time to make it to the bathroom to make a 911 call why didn't he stay there?

Why did Paul Pelosi refer to him by name?

Why does the cop start crying during the update?

Cmon Ranger you're not this naive are you? WTF
 
This makes sense to you?

Why was the glass broken outside?

The Pelosi's don't have an alarm system in SF?

Where is the home surveillance footage?

Where is the footage from the neighbors surveillance video?

The Pelosi's have no security at all when Nancy is gone?

Why was the guy in his underwear

If Paul had time to make it to the bathroom to make a 911 call why didn't he stay there?

Why did Paul Pelosi refer to him by name?

Why does the cop start crying during the update?

Cmon Ranger you're not this naive are you? WTF
Here's a Halloween costume idea for you from Don, Jr.



BTW, Don, Jr. has a very short memory.....
 
This makes sense to you?

Why was the glass broken outside?

The Pelosi's don't have an alarm system in SF?

Where is the home surveillance footage?

Where is the footage from the neighbors surveillance video?

The Pelosi's have no security at all when Nancy is gone?

Why was the guy in his underwear

If Paul had time to make it to the bathroom to make a 911 call why didn't he stay there?

Why did Paul Pelosi refer to him by name?

Why does the cop start crying during the update?

Cmon Ranger you're not this naive are you? WTF
There are some anomalies associated with the case - but the MAGA response to make shit up is pretty sad.
 
This makes sense to you?

Why was the glass broken outside?

The Pelosi's don't have an alarm system in SF?

Where is the home surveillance footage?

Where is the footage from the neighbors surveillance video?

The Pelosi's have no security at all when Nancy is gone?

Why was the guy in his underwear

If Paul had time to make it to the bathroom to make a 911 call why didn't he stay there?

Why did Paul Pelosi refer to him by name?

Why does the cop start crying during the update?

Cmon Ranger you're not this naive are you? WTF
 
There are some anomalies associated with the case - but the MAGA response to make shit up is pretty sad.
As with most things/occurances of this vein there is usually an “A” side and a “B” side and the truth. We’re unlikely to be near the truth yet. It thus adds little to wildly speculate. This will most likely end being a case of a nut doing nutty things.

It’s also why the aliens likely refuse to communicate with us. . . .
 
As with most things/occurances of this vein there is usually an “A” side and a “B” side and the truth. We’re unlikely to be near the truth yet. It thus adds little to wildly speculate. This will most likely end being a case of a nut doing nutty things.

It’s also why the aliens likely refuse to communicate with us. . . .
Civility seems to be a thing of the past, which used to be a thing.
 
There are some anomalies associated with the case - but the MAGA response to make shit up is pretty sad.
What did I make up? All those questions should be answered. Go through every one and debunk it. Especially security...neighbors and the Pelosis? Nothing? No alarm system. You live in San Fran and nobody on that street has surveillance? Security guards at the Pelosi home of the 3rd in charge???? NOTHING??? Not one?

You all are out of your minds on this one.
 
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Why does no one ever mention there was a gunshot as KR was getting chased into that car lot? If a mob is chasing you and you hear a gunshot wth is going through your mind? You probably don't even know about this gunshot because it doesn't fit your narrative and have conveniently forgot about it so that your arguments make sense in your own brain.
Of course I know about the gunshot- I've seen the various videos. The problem is he was not shot at, and there was no mob "chasing" him when he shot the first victim. He basically shot a guy who threw what appears to be a plastic baggie at his feet, and it never even hit him...

After he shot the first victim he made a call, and at some point people pointed at him as the shooter, because of course he was the only one brandishing a gun. Since he was able to actually make a brief call, it stands to reason that had he basically surrendered at that point, two more folks wouldn't have been shot. You can make the case for self-defense with the first shooting (because of the bag), but when people were chasing him (after he killed someone), they were basically chasing a shooter, who in their minds had committed a crime.

The same people who praise vigilantes for interrupting a criminal act, blindly refuse to consider that the people who chased after KR were (in their minds) doing the same thing. They heard a shot and saw someone with a rifle running- what else were they supposed to think?

You can see the confusion all around if you're honest. But should a 16/17 yr old who is so startled by a plastic bag being tossed at his feet and a concurrent gunshot being heard in the distance at the exact same time that his response is to shoot a clearly unarmed person point blank, be totally absolved of his role in the tragedy? He chose to interject himself into a situation where he had no business being.

No one was shot during any previous protest in the preceding days, and no one would have been shot that night had KR stayed home and minded his own business. Instead he purposely took a loaded weapon and made a volatile situation worse by his own inexperience and lack of discernment. He was hailed as a hero for apparently being a "good shot", but his inability to properly determine what was or was not a threat resulted in two people being killed and another wounded. I don't think that type of immaturity is anything to celebrate, and imho the "threat" was basically something his own actions created...

That's my opinion. I didn't start out to discuss that matter here, but people asked, so I responded. The same people who will claim that my opinion was shaped by my own bias, will conveniently ignore the role their own bias plays in creating theirs.
 
Of course I know about the gunshot- I've seen the various videos. The problem is he was not shot at, and there was no mob "chasing" him when he shot the first victim. He basically shot a guy who threw what appears to be a plastic baggie at his feet, and it never even hit him...

After he shot the first victim he made a call, and at some point people pointed at him as the shooter, because of course he was the only one brandishing a gun. Since he was able to actually make a brief call, it stands to reason that had he basically surrendered at that point, two more folks wouldn't have been shot. You can make the case for self-defense with the first shooting (because of the bag), but when people were chasing him (after he killed someone), they were basically chasing a shooter, who in their minds had committed a crime.

The same people who praise vigilantes for interrupting a criminal act, blindly refuse to consider that the people who chased after KR were (in their minds) doing the same thing. They heard a shot and saw someone with a rifle running- what else were they supposed to think?

You can see the confusion all around if you're honest. But should a 16/17 yr old who is so startled by a plastic bag being tossed at his feet and a concurrent gunshot being heard in the distance at the exact same time that his response is to shoot a clearly unarmed person point blank, be totally absolved of his role in the tragedy? He chose to interject himself into a situation where he had no business being.

No one was shot during any previous protest in the preceding days, and no one would have been shot that night had KR stayed home and minded his own business. Instead he purposely took a loaded weapon and made a volatile situation worse by his own inexperience and lack of discernment. He was hailed as a hero for apparently being a "good shot", but his inability to properly determine what was or was not a threat resulted in two people being killed and another wounded. I don't think that type of immaturity is anything to celebrate, and imho the "threat" was basically something his own actions created...

That's my opinion. I didn't start out to discuss that matter here, but people asked, so I responded. The same people who will claim that my opinion was shaped by my own bias, will conveniently ignore the role their own bias plays in creating theirs.
I guess the jury didn’t see it your way, did they.
 
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I actually was ready to give you a bit more credit than dmb, but you're just as big a liar. Or else, you're just as prone to help promote liars. Musk had a hand in promoting this as well, but even he had the sense to delete his tweet promoting an obvious lie...

SF police have gone on record as saying that the two men were not acquainted. Pelosi was in his underwear because he was in bed when his window was shattered by a guy breaking in who had zip ties. The 911 call was able to be made because Pelosi was able to convince his attacker to let him use the restroom, and his phone was charging in the bathroom. He dialed 911 and didn't speak-just left the line open so the operator could hear the conversation he engaged the attacker in.

 
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I actually was ready to give you a bit more credit than dmb, but you're just as big a liar. Or else, you're just as prone to help promote liars. Musk had a hand in promoting this as well, but even he had the sense to delete his tweet promoting an obvious lie...

SF police have gone on record as saying that the two men were not acquainted. Pelosi was in his underwear because he was in bed when his window was shattered by a guy breaking in who had zip ties. The 911 call was able to be made because Pelosi was able to convince his attacker to let him use the restroom, and his phone was charging in the bathroom. He dialed 911 and didn't speak-just left the line open so the operator could hear the conversation he engaged the attacker in.

I bet you were on the OJ jury weren’t you?
 
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I guess the jury didn’t see it your way, did they.
I said it was my opinion. Of course I saw video the judge didn't allow the jury to see, including Kyle hitting a girl a month or so prior to the events of that night... As well as audio of a few nights earlier where he commented on his desire to "shoot looters" while watching video coverage from Kenosha...

So I have a clue to his personality that the jury wasn't allowed to see.
 
I said it was my opinion. Of course I saw video the judge didn't allow the jury to see, including Kyle hitting a girl a month or so prior to the events of that night... As well as audio of a few nights earlier where he commented on his desire to "shoot looters" while watching video coverage from Kenosha...

So I have a clue to his personality that the jury wasn't allowed to see.
I didn't realize his personality was on trial.
 
I didn't realize his personality was on trial.
I didn't say anything about what was on trial. I just gave my opinion (which was solicited), and enumerated some of the reasons I feel the way I do. The judge severely constricted the prosecution (it sometimes happens). Maybe murder was a reach, but manslaughter or some other count addressing KR's role in initiating the tragedy (by being on the street with a loaded weapon) seems appropriate to me. Again, my opinion...

Exactly what dangers do you think KR would have faced had he showed up, but not had a weapon? I mean if he was determined to be on the streets of Kenosha that night, why did he feel that opposed to everyone else, he needed to be walking around with a loaded weapon?
 
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There are some anomalies associated with the case - but the MAGA response to make shit up is pretty sad.
We'll know which narrative is closer to the truth based on how long the story remains in the public eye. If it gets mostly memory holed in a few days, then this wasn't some "MAGA idiot" who they could make political hay from.
 
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I don’t know, it’s not our side that is afraid of: the border, immigrants, big cities, living in our houses or anywhere without guns, pedophiles, drag shows, and on and on and on. The GOP thrIves on fear mongering.

It's simple displacement. They accuse others of what they are themselves.
 

We'll know which narrative is closer to the truth based on how long the story remains in the public eye. If it gets mostly memory holed in a few days, then this wasn't some "MAGA idiot" who they could make political hay from.
He walks around naked with shit written on his chest. I don't think any side is ready to claim this nutter.
 
Of course I know about the gunshot- I've seen the various videos. The problem is he was not shot at, and there was no mob "chasing" him when he shot the first victim. He basically shot a guy who threw what appears to be a plastic baggie at his feet, and it never even hit him...

After he shot the first victim he made a call, and at some point people pointed at him as the shooter, because of course he was the only one brandishing a gun. Since he was able to actually make a brief call, it stands to reason that had he basically surrendered at that point, two more folks wouldn't have been shot. You can make the case for self-defense with the first shooting (because of the bag), but when people were chasing him (after he killed someone), they were basically chasing a shooter, who in their minds had committed a crime.

The same people who praise vigilantes for interrupting a criminal act, blindly refuse to consider that the people who chased after KR were (in their minds) doing the same thing. They heard a shot and saw someone with a rifle running- what else were they supposed to think?

You can see the confusion all around if you're honest. But should a 16/17 yr old who is so startled by a plastic bag being tossed at his feet and a concurrent gunshot being heard in the distance at the exact same time that his response is to shoot a clearly unarmed person point blank, be totally absolved of his role in the tragedy? He chose to interject himself into a situation where he had no business being.

No one was shot during any previous protest in the preceding days, and no one would have been shot that night had KR stayed home and minded his own business. Instead he purposely took a loaded weapon and made a volatile situation worse by his own inexperience and lack of discernment. He was hailed as a hero for apparently being a "good shot", but his inability to properly determine what was or was not a threat resulted in two people being killed and another wounded. I don't think that type of immaturity is anything to celebrate, and imho the "threat" was basically something his own actions created...

That's my opinion. I didn't start out to discuss that matter here, but people asked, so I responded. The same people who will claim that my opinion was shaped by my own bias, will conveniently ignore the role their own bias plays in creating theirs.
The gunshot happened before the bag being thrown. Try to keep up. Again you're twisting what actually happened to fit your narrative.
 
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Of course I know about the gunshot- I've seen the various videos. The problem is he was not shot at, and there was no mob "chasing" him when he shot the first victim. He basically shot a guy who threw what appears to be a plastic baggie at his feet, and it never even hit him...

After he shot the first victim he made a call, and at some point people pointed at him as the shooter, because of course he was the only one brandishing a gun. Since he was able to actually make a brief call, it stands to reason that had he basically surrendered at that point, two more folks wouldn't have been shot. You can make the case for self-defense with the first shooting (because of the bag), but when people were chasing him (after he killed someone), they were basically chasing a shooter, who in their minds had committed a crime.

The same people who praise vigilantes for interrupting a criminal act, blindly refuse to consider that the people who chased after KR were (in their minds) doing the same thing. They heard a shot and saw someone with a rifle running- what else were they supposed to think?

You can see the confusion all around if you're honest. But should a 16/17 yr old who is so startled by a plastic bag being tossed at his feet and a concurrent gunshot being heard in the distance at the exact same time that his response is to shoot a clearly unarmed person point blank, be totally absolved of his role in the tragedy? He chose to interject himself into a situation where he had no business being.

No one was shot during any previous protest in the preceding days, and no one would have been shot that night had KR stayed home and minded his own business. Instead he purposely took a loaded weapon and made a volatile situation worse by his own inexperience and lack of discernment. He was hailed as a hero for apparently being a "good shot", but his inability to properly determine what was or was not a threat resulted in two people being killed and another wounded. I don't think that type of immaturity is anything to celebrate, and imho the "threat" was basically something his own actions created...

That's my opinion. I didn't start out to discuss that matter here, but people asked, so I responded. The same people who will claim that my opinion was shaped by my own bias, will conveniently ignore the role their own bias plays in creating theirs.
And yes he was being chased. Rewatch the video with audio and very clearly he is being chased and verbally he can hear words to the same effect. And this is as he's getting chased into the car lot. Not after the first guy met the room temperature challenge. After that as he's running towards police he is not shooting anyone or pointing his gun at anyone. Why would people then start to chase him with skateboards and a pistol? They themselves were not being threatened until they attempted to engage. And if they had seen the first guy go down they would have realized KR wasn't popping off at anyone but rather at a guy that was closing in on him. It's their own fault for engaging a guy with a rifle with a skateboard. Those are the vigilantes in this situation. And the jury saw it the some way. Tough to hear right?
 
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The gunshot happened before the bag being thrown. Try to keep up. Again you're twisting what actually happened to fit your narrative.

Even if that is so, doesn't really change much. KR shouldn't have been there in the first place and shouldn't have shot and killed multiple people.
 
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And yes he was being chased. Rewatch the video with audio and very clearly he is being chased and verbally he can hear words to the same effect.

If KR wasn't a GOP hero, then you would probably be praising the bystanders who were trying to stop an active shooter who had just killed someone.
 
Even if that is so, doesn't really change much. KR shouldn't have been there in the first place and shouldn't have shot and killed multiple people.
Now do all the dumb f#%ks that engaged him that night? Should they have been there?
 
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