Soon the only political entity still battling to keep mandates intact will be the civil liberties lobby.
Think about that
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Soon the only political entity still battling to keep mandates intact will be the civil liberties lobby.
Think about that
IU's mask mandate ends March 4, though no one knows what that means. If there is a class with a severely immunocompromised student, can the professor still require masks in that class even as IU as a whole does not?
Probably means masks optional. Recommended but optional. That seems to be the transition here
Depends where you are at. I was at a grocery store the other day in a liberal area and 80% were masked up like covid just began. For them I doubt it ever ends.
It’s a political positive for Biden and Democrats to return to normalcy. They know it and it’s starting already.
It was never about your health. It was always about power and politics. What Dems are realizing slowly is that COVID is a net negative for them. Yes, they pick up a few points if they continue with it and push the mail in ballot scam ripe with voter fraud but they're losing even more people who typically vote Dem but are fed up with the COVID cult and the insane mandates and regulations.
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Can’t do that. Said individual should learn remotely or roll the dice. Making sure he/she is vaccinated and has access to treatment.
The suburban and rural american counties are done with covid and have moved on. But go into the city you would think covid just started. The dems really hooked a percentage of people so much they simply will not be able to let covid go. I predict they will still be wearing masks a year from now. They have really mentally messed up alot of them.
It's looking like the pandemic is winding down <knock on wood some significantly worse variant doesn't creep up>. Although I said that last summer when we hit the nadir before it decided to come roaring back in the midwest around Labor Day.
But the court cases need to go through so there is more guidance somewhere (hopefully LONG down the road) when something like this happens again.
But the court cases need to go through so there is more guidance somewhere (hopefully LONG down the road) when something like this happens again.
Why are you so triggered by the choices of what other people are choosing to do?
You serious Clark? Triggered? Try exercising your own choice by not wearing a mask in a very liberal area and see what kind of reaction you get.
I have to admit I don't do appellate work so I don't know how mootness figures in. But there have to be some exceptions, like Roe v. Wade was decided years after the baby was born.
I am serious, Clark.
I wear a mask only when told. I've got the vax and had covid twice in less then 6 months. I would think I'm pretty well covered with immunity.
I just went to Chicago a couple weekends ago. Only wore the mask when absolutely had to, and when I had to, it didn't bother me in the least. Gonna be back in April for a concert. If I have to wear a mask, oh well. There are worse things that I will have to deal with.
If you're worried about a reaction to a mask, that's a you thing.
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I don’t know anyone that doesn’t want to return to normalcy. Honestly I think it’s most challenging for my kids to go without wearing masks. For the last two years it’s the only way they’ve felt any control.
Just curious, reduce it to a more personal level. You have a good friend who gets an organ transplant. Would you wear a mask to visit them? If you had an organ transplant, would you ask people to wear a mask to come see you?
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For every video like that, I can show a anti vaxer making a scene because they're to much of a child to throw a mask on for 10 minutes to get a loaf of bread.
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Yes but that person is taking a risk by going into a classroom. If they need to be bubbled wearing a mask that hardly helps isn’t the way to go.
And would have done that during flu season pre COVID?
I agree they would be taking a risk as masks are far from infallible. But I also wonder what we are going to do. Are we just going to allow everyone with such a condition to go on disability for the duration of whatever? MTIOTF has spoken of his risks, if his job were in the public what other choices would he have. I certainly don't want more people working from home calling about extending my car warranty.
Personally, I'll stop wearing a mask when the current mandates come down. But I'll carry one and if someone asks me to put one on, I'll do it. Not much skin off my nose
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What does said person do if they have labs they have to take for course work?
You can't take those virtually, can you?
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My sons school just went to mask optional. My liquor store removed the plexi-glass barrier as did our Kroger. In my little world it’s kinda over. When it’s officially officially over is when my wife has to go back to the office, which is only a matter of time…
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Schools here are going optional starting this week.
Numbers are going down but hopefully this isn't premature.
Testing isn't required either so we may not even realize when numbers go back up. Being treated just like the flu now.
Numbers are going down but hopefully this isn't premature.
Testing isn't required either so we may not even realize when numbers go back up. Being treated just like the flu now.
That corresponds with the end of Holcomb's emergency order and presumably with the end of the Monroe County Board of Health's order (they're claiming they will have new guidance on the 3rd).
It's time. Between the vaccines and natural immunity gained through Omicron, we're as protected as we're ever going to be.
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What’s the end game? Masks 4eva? COVID will be (is) endemic.
Pretty soon a scared twat who needs a service animal will be making up illnesses that require classmates to wear a mask. Enough is enough man.
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This pandemic has made a generation of people that have no understanding of risk mitigation. There is only risk elimination. That’s no way to live or conduct a real society.I agree they would be taking a risk as masks are far from infallible. But I also wonder what we are going to do. Are we just going to allow everyone with such a condition to go on disability for the duration of whatever? MTIOTF has spoken of his risks, if his job were in the public what other choices would he have. I certainly don't want more people working from home calling about extending my car warranty.
Personally, I'll stop wearing a mask when the current mandates come down. But I'll carry one and if someone asks me to put one on, I'll do it. Not much skin off my nose
There is no real threat to kids today but many are terrified to take their masks off. There would need to be strict vetting of whether or not someone really needs to have kids around him wear a mask. Because my kids aren’t going to wear masks to make some perfectly healthy neurotic kid feel “safe.”
Omicron has turned out to be the key. We were getting close to this point last Spring, but then we got hit by Delta and the anti-vax morons dug in their heels. Today the morons are still with us, but many have been inoculated the old fashioned way by Omicron, and the far less virulent Omicron has supplanted Delta.
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That’s revisionist history. In the coasts, delta was here a week or two after we (the non seniors) were allowed to get vaxxed.
I'm not sure what I've revised, but whatever. The CDC relaxed their guidelines in April (which I thought was too early at the time); Delta hit the bigtime soon thereafter and the magnitude of the vaccine resistance only then became apparent.
Edit: CDC changed guidelines in May, not April. I thought a July 4 target was proper, they were shooting for Memorial Day.
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That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying in most states non seniors weren’t able to get vaxxed until early/mid April. If you get shot 1 on 6 April, next shot isn’t until 27 April and then two weeks later is mid May and delta was already here. The non vaxxer nonsense is just that….nonsense. It was too late. It was always too late.
I wasn't claiming that vaccines would have prevented Delta from having an impact, but I'm convinced it would have mitigated it to a large degree.
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Vaccines would’ve saved a lot of lives yes. But they weren’t anywhere near the efficacy of stopping the spread as they were against the Wuhan strain. Especially with the lack of vaccinations in developing countries - which may have turned out to be a blessing for the world.
Delta was first detected in Indiana around June 19th and was said to be dominant by July 7. If you look at that bottom chart, the elderly population was highly vaccinated by the time Delta arrived,
Edit: My bad, I misread what you said. Still even in the 20-59 age groups about 90% of those who would ever be vaccinated, were already vaccinated by July 9th
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I am not going to defend masks because it is time to largely be out of masks. But for some there is still a legitimate concern. I am not sure how to handle that as a society.
The FDA is now contemplating authorization for a second booster shot later on in 2022
The FDA is reportedly examining the possibility of authorizing in the near future a second booster shot of the mRNA-based COVID vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna.
thepostmillennial.com
For some it will never be over. Ever
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Delta was in the US in April.
What to Know About the Origins of the Delta Variant in the U.S.
It's more transmissible, it may cause more severe illness, and it's the dominant U.S. strain. Where did Delta come from?
www.newsweek.com
There is a June 19th article that says Delta variant detected in Indiana (97 cases), then several articles in early-mid July saying that Delta had become the dominant strain.Delta was in the US in April.
What to Know About the Origins of the Delta Variant in the U.S.
It's more transmissible, it may cause more severe illness, and it's the dominant U.S. strain. Where did Delta come from?
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/h...iana/531-3c32d62a-5969-48cd-a168-d8abc8be32fd
I mostly just look at Indiana, but I'm sure that some states were effected earlier.
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