OK lefties . . .
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Here is what he said in that article:
“Anybody who’s been in the payment system and the processes, who knows the easiest way to find the fraudster is to stop payments and listen, because whoever screams is the one stealing,” he said. “Because my mother-in-law’s not calling, come on, your mother, 80-year-olds, 90-year-olds, they trust the government.”
He said his MiL would not call. Not that she would call and understand If that is an incorrect quote than I am wrong and freely admit it was a mistake. But I would love to see a transcript your way or an audio. It is certainly possible this was wrong, but I checked that quote in two different stories. Of course they may both have had the same root.
Gotcha. I knew some of his background story because he's a Bitcoiner. I'll check it out. Bessent was on there recently as well.
Just order the SSA to purge them, though purging them shouldn’t be necessary and shouldn’t be done. They should have a record of everyone that ever received SS payments. Purging everyone that shouldn’t be getting payments is something they should be doing. Once again, order the SSA to do it. Provide any assistance required.
I’m sure those are the exact words, but he was using SS as an analogy for the cutting of grants and contracts as they’ve done in other parts of the government. It’s clear from the context of the interview if you actually listen to it as I have. He’s saying the most hysterical, probably deserve the most scrutiny.
Evidence of this is at no point did he suggest cutting off SS payments. This admin hasn’t and they won’t.
I think you're too personally affected by budget cuts.
When people point out the debt, all we get back is "But Social Security". Like there's no reason to cut anything else in discretionary spending.
So we can't slash the deficit by $2 trillion. How about by $1 trillion? Does that not lower the growth of the debt? You don't think getting rid of unnecessary spending is going to pay dividends down the road when these aren't included in baseline budgeting?
Now you’re offering opinion on how and who you want to run things.
Run for office, no one is stopping you.
This is how Trump is running things. It’s legal. It’s what he more or less promised voters.
And all you guys really have is innuendo about abuse, corruption and self-dealing.
Computer security principle #1 is least privilege. If you need everyone's phone numbers to call them in, you get that but not their Social Security numbers or I9 info. If you need their tax info for payroll, you do not get their FMLA info. I have had to do this stuff for a long time.it certainly appears Musk's people have demanded and on occasion been given everything. That is just crazy to me. I am sorry if I cannot properly explain why and how wrong it is, it just is.
Heck, I am forbidden to look at any personal data on a computer I repair. I like that rule, it is a good rule that I follow religiously. If you want me to look at a file and fix a problem, I ask you to open it and not me.
I have folders with employee data set to record if I go into the folders, and record if I turn that off. I should never, ever, see anyone's employee records. It is not my job. But I have access because I handle restores. Someone deleted a file and needs it restored, I log the date and time and restore it. My log matches up with the access log and all is good. I gave my boss the job of checking access logs so I can't fudge that. I don't think he liked it, but understood why.
Some of the DOGE people are rocket scientists. I am sure they are brilliant I seriously doubt they have been trained in handling critical data. Obviously not, one tried to sell it from a previous employer and another emailed it.
Heck, I am forbidden to look at any personal data on a computer I repair. I like that rule, it is a good rule that I follow religiously. If you want me to look at a file and fix a problem, I ask you to open it and not me.
I have folders with employee data set to record if I go into the folders, and record if I turn that off. I should never, ever, see anyone's employee records. It is not my job. But I have access because I handle restores. Someone deleted a file and needs it restored, I log the date and time and restore it. My log matches up with the access log and all is good. I gave my boss the job of checking access logs so I can't fudge that. I don't think he liked it, but understood why.
Some of the DOGE people are rocket scientists. I am sure they are brilliant I seriously doubt they have been trained in handling critical data. Obviously not, one tried to sell it from a previous employer and another emailed it.
Sorry, Marv, but as a voter for Biden, you have one helluva lot of chutzpa bringing up pardons.
This was never promised. The last paragraph doesn’t apply to me.
Ever hear of Domestic Terrorism? The Biden DOJ was big on that, remember?All for prosecuting these nuts, but shouldn't this be a local or state matter? If someone vandalized a bunch of Ford pickup trucks, that would be a local matter, right? What makes this a federal case? I'm interested in the legal opinions.
3 alleged Tesla attackers could face up to 20 years for Molotov cocktails
Three individuals are facing "serious charges" for allegedly using Molotov cocktails to set Tesla items on fire, the Justice Department announced.www.usatoday.com
If those throwing homemade bombs are charged with that, I’m all for it.
Just think of it as going throught Melania's underwear drawer - you'd be fine with it.
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What does that have to do with it?
This is a national movement that is obviously terrorism. No bomb needed.
So if some dipshit keys a Tesla you’re all about calling it domestic terrorism? Don’t the Feds have more to do than focus on vandalism?
I think it’s more the doxing of Tesla owners, Molotov cocktails and large scale arson that has the feds concerned.
You're now arguing a lot of different things. I'll try to address them all.
I'm focused on the concern about (1) the amount of power Musk is wielding, and (2) that speculation that he is stealing the government's big data and individual medical, health, social security records of every single American. I don't think his lack of a plan bears on either issue.
From what I've read, the types of things Musk is doing do not convey "unheard of power." He's essentially an auditor or outside consultant reviewing the books and making suggestions. Yes, his suggestions are often followed but they need not be. Notice Patel and others told him to **** off so just how much power do you really think he is wielding here?
That is a separate question from his execution with DOGE, lack of care, violation of rules surrounding handling data, etc. I think DOGE has made quite a few giant blunders there, and don't think I've ever hinted otherwise. But what I'm trying to drill down on is this--has anyone actually been hurt by these procedural **** ups? I freely admit people have been hurt by lay offs--but that is a policy issue, that the President wants to see happen. So I consider that separate and apart from these screw ups and ignorance of rules surrounding data handling, etc.
As for Musk's feelings, where have I said we should give a damn about those? He's a big boy, who involved himself in govt on his own so I don't think that's a consideration here.
Who or what is Apartheid Clyde?
Re the safeguards in place right now, I don't know what they are so no, I can't point you to them. I also can't do that with the Defense Department or any number of government agencies.
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Can you track the various editing done by date and time and user?
There's a difference between keying a single vehicle and doing it to multiple ones.
Just like there's a difference in keying a vehicle and setting fire to a dealership.
I would be willing to bet that anyone today caught doing any of these things have a history of violence of some kind. That's terrorism, in my opinion.
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