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Define 'south'. I live in N. Carolina and, believe me, no kids are starving. There are more social programs and free meals than I ever saw in North Carolina.

North Carolina is probably the wealthiest state in the 'south'... Unless you are counting Virginia. I bet NC is wealthier than Indiana. The really dirt poor states are KY, Alabama, Mississippi. Most of Tennessee outside of Nashville.

Charlotte is downright bougie
 
There are fewer illegal border crossings now than at the end of Trump’s presidency. Things would be even better if Trump hadn’t killed a bipartisan border security bill because he believed it would hurt his campaign. Violent crime is near a 50-year low. Prices are too high but our economy remains the envy of the world. Inflation is under 3% and approaching the Fed’s target of 2%. The stock market is through the roof and investors are reaping the benefits. Airports are packed, restaurants are packed and people are spending.

Things aren’t perfect but very good. Far from the dystopian, “American Carnage” messaging that Trump and the pro-Trump media regurgitate every day.
An entire generation being locked out of homeownership is far from "very good"
 
An entire generation being locked out of homeownership is far from "very good"
I acknowledged in my post that prices are too high. That includes housing. Homes in most metro areas are overvalued but there's been an uptick in listings and "there are signs of a correction" (see below) in the housing market. It's also very likely mortgage interest rates will fall when the Fed takes action next month. All of this will help with affordability.

I'm skeptical about Harris' plan for $25,000 in assistance for first time home buyers. That's a tough legislative sell. However she's on the right track when she talks about increasing supply with a goal of constructing 3 million housing units (for sale and rent) over the next four years. That plan would provide homebuilders with a tax incentive for selling homes to first-time buyers. The initiative would complement the Neighborhood Homes Tax Credit which would be established as a function of a bill pending in Congress called the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act. The bill has bipartisan support.

 
I'm skeptical about Harris' plan for $25,000 in assistance for first time home buyers. That's a tough legislative sell. However she's on the right track when she talks about increasing supply with a goal of constructing 3 million housing units (for sale and rent) over the next four years. That plan would provide homebuilders with a tax incentive for selling homes to first-time buyers. The initiative would complement the Neighborhood Homes Tax Credit which would be established as a function of a bill pending in Congress called the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act. The bill has bipartisan support.
I'd like to hear the details about how she will override state regulations and local zoning to make that happen.
 
I acknowledged in my post that prices are too high. That includes housing. Homes in most metro areas are overvalued but there's been an uptick in listings and "there are signs of a correction" (see below) in the housing market. It's also very likely mortgage interest rates will fall when the Fed takes action next month. All of this will help with affordability.

I'm skeptical about Harris' plan for $25,000 in assistance for first time home buyers. That's a tough legislative sell. However she's on the right track when she talks about increasing supply with a goal of constructing 3 million housing units (for sale and rent) over the next four years. That plan would provide homebuilders with a tax incentive for selling homes to first-time buyers. The initiative would complement the Neighborhood Homes Tax Credit which would be established as a function of a bill pending in Congress called the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act. The bill has bipartisan support.

We are sevral rate adjustments and market corrections away from getting back to the American dream. The three million homes would mostly be cheaply built rentals. Look at what Blackstone is doing.
 
So it is Thursday and the last night. Will we finally hear what their plan is or will it still be all about Trump????
 
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Explain to me why the MAGA-led GOP was so dead-set against a $35/mo cap on the price of insulin for seniors, so much so that Harris had to break a 50-50 tie to get it done. Seniors should apparent pay over $300/mo, I guess
I think it's funny that people are fine with others getting their ass kicked but wouldn't like it if it was their own. Why not force universities to offer a college degree (any) for $5,000/year then your salary would be cut to offer it at that price. The Medicare price negotiation is a big joke. It's not a negotiation at all. It's the government telling the suppliers that this is the price they get. I'd be fine with that part of it but even doctors don't have to accept what Medicare pays.... they can refuse but from what I've read the pharmaceutical companies get fined if they don't accept the Medicare price.
 
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I think it's funny that people are fine with others getting their ass kicked but wouldn't like it if it was their own. Why not force universities to offer a college degree (any) for $5,000/year then your salary would be cut to offer it at that price. The Medicare price negotiation is a big joke. It's not a negotiation at all. It's the government telling the suppliers that this is the price they get. I'd be fine with that part of it but even doctors don't have to accept what Medicare pays.... they can refuse but from what I've read the pharmaceutical companies get fined if they don't accept the Medicare price.
He doesn’t understand…probably saw it on Facebook. He was tore up that I asked him about it….
 
Define 'south'. I live in N. Carolina and, believe me, no kids are starving. There are more social programs and free meals than I ever saw in North Carolina.
(Sorry, been at a site check all day).
This site has a bit of a breakdown of which states offer the most free lunches.

I used to have a very similar opinion. Kinda got a wake-up call about 7 years ago. My youngest's elementary was giving out free breakfast and lunch. When I asked a teacher about it, she said that for about 20% of the kids, those were the only meals they got in the day.
I found that hard to believe, but a bit later, I had about 40 kids for a cub-scout meeting (my wife and I were running the local pack back then) and had them raise their hands if they had breakfast / lunch at their school and no dinner at home. IIRC, about 6 raised their hands.

When I asked one of them about it later, he said that it wasn't an everyday thing. Some weeks he got 3 square meals a day and he didn't take the school lunches. Some weeks he would get about one or two a day from home, some weeks he'd get none. While I don't know the exact situation he was in, I do know that he was living alone with his mom.

The kid didn't look like one of those kids from an African village where you could see his ribs, but he wasn't portly either.

I think there is a bit of a chicken / egg situation here too, where some parents know that their kid can get a free lunch, so they take advantage of the system and wipe their hands of it. We certainly don't live in the wealthiest suburb, but we're not dirt poor either.

Either way, yeah, again I think it is more than you think, but I agree that it's not like all these kids are holding out their bowls saying "Please sir, I'd like some more."
 
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It’s funny how border crossings plunged when Joe reinstated a lot of Trumps policies that he ended when he took office. You know, the ones Joe said were xenophobic.

It’s sad that you want to give him credit for that.
Do you even realize that you just admitted that Biden's current border policies are working?

You should have been given a slot to speak at the DNC. You'd have been brilliant.
 
Yeah - for the next 76 days or so until he falls off the historical page of relevance I’ll probably devote a fair amount of mindshare toward him.

Buckle up, buttercup!
Trump is just a pimple on the butt of time.

He'll be cured soon.
 
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IF things are this good, why ya'll keep campaigning on "fixing things"?

Absolutely amazing you actually blame Trump for the border disaster----I mean it really is. Its funny---I dont recall having ANY border issues under Trump....But under the present administration---YIKES. But now that its getting better----it would be even better if Trump.......

My goodness. Big reason for improvements is Biden reinstating Trump policies.

Weird huh.
You just admitted that Biden's current border policies are working. Don't you listen to yourself?
 
Thank God she doesn't look like Ginger Baker.
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Because that's how things work today. Duh. To the average American, this will make Tim and family more relatable.

You think Trump would be comfortable on stage holding the hand of an emotional son with a disability? We all know the answer to that. Trump can only wish Melania would look at him the way Tim's wife did. Genuine love not based upon net worth.
Also (apparently) not based on screwing a porn star only months after your present wife had a baby.
 
Watched a few minutes of it; wife forced me to...(you know the video of the lion growling at the start of MGM movies, she did the cameo for that one day when all they needed to get her in character was have her think of something I didn't do when she politely asked me to... She's an extraordinarily beautiful woman in all ways most of the time but..., can go into Apache shape shifting mode if she's ticked so I usually try to make her happy unless it's a matter of principle and even then it's hardly worth crossing her...).

Anyway..., after about 5 minutes of beady eyed, phony, Joe babbling on even she couldn't take it and we switched over to one of Erol Flynns worst westerns (San Antonio)... Thr female lead was hot for a gal who's been dead since "93" (Alexis Smith) but even her beauty couldn't carry the show... All in all a bad night for TV...
I feel your pain, Man. I’ve been married three times and none have come easy, but I’ve remained relatively happy for the most part of all of ‘em, so far.
 
So who is the big surprise guest tonight? The three most mentioned seem to be Mike Pence, George Bush, or Taylor Swift. I think it will be Bush. Pence would be a big yawn, and I’m not sure Swift would do it.
 
Because that's how things work today. Duh. To the average American, this will make Tim and family more relatable.

You think Trump would be comfortable on stage holding the hand of an emotional son with a disability? We all know the answer to that. Trump can only wish Melania would look at him the way Tim's wife did. Genuine love not based upon net worth.
Trump would never get on stage with those that have a disability.



Idiot.
 
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You don't get credit for putting out a fire just because you stopped pouring gasoline on it.
Removing the combustible material and oxygen from the fire is exactly how firefighters put out fires, regardless whether they use water, blankets, CO2 foam or whatever.

It's like how removing Trump from politics by another humiliating defeat will make American politics less volatile.
 
I think there is a bit of a chicken / egg situation here too, where some parents know that their kid can get a free lunch, so they take advantage of the system and wipe their hands of it.
Exactly right. I've got no problem with giving out a 'breakfast' at school, but It should be something healthy, with a lot of fruit and no sugar cereals. Banana and yogurt and some orange juice, something like that. It doesn't have to be bacon and eggs or something that takes a lot of work by the cooks.

I'm also fine with handing out healthy snacks after their last class. All that can't cost that much and there are so many places that give out free meals.

I just don't think hunger in America is an issue. Maybe in some spots, but identify them and work those areas. Trying to crow because you give out meals for 'starving children' is just disingenuous in the US today.
 
So who is the big surprise guest tonight? The three most mentioned seem to be Mike Pence, George Bush, or Taylor Swift. I think it will be Bush. Pence would be a big yawn, and I’m not sure Swift would do it.
So far all we have is trumptrumptrump and the second of the big two racists...Al Sharpton. Maxine was on the other night.
 
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I feel your pain, Man. I’ve been married three times and none have come easy, but I’ve remained relatively happy for the most part of all of ‘em, so far.
Well sure - you're always schtooping the dental assistants. Why wouldn't you be happy?
 
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(Sorry, been at a site check all day).
This site has a bit of a breakdown of which states offer the most free lunches.

I used to have a very similar opinion. Kinda got a wake-up call about 7 years ago. My youngest's elementary was giving out free breakfast and lunch. When I asked a teacher about it, she said that for about 20% of the kids, those were the only meals they got in the day.
I found that hard to believe, but a bit later, I had about 40 kids for a cub-scout meeting (my wife and I were running the local pack back then) and had them raise their hands if they had breakfast / lunch at their school and no dinner at home. IIRC, about 6 raised their hands.

When I asked one of them about it later, he said that it wasn't an everyday thing. Some weeks he got 3 square meals a day and he didn't take the school lunches. Some weeks he would get about one or two a day from home, some weeks he'd get none. While I don't know the exact situation he was in, I do know that he was living alone with his mom.

The kid didn't look like one of those kids from an African village where you could see his ribs, but he wasn't portly either.

I think there is a bit of a chicken / egg situation here too, where some parents know that their kid can get a free lunch, so they take advantage of the system and wipe their hands of it. We certainly don't live in the wealthiest suburb, but we're not dirt poor either.

Either way, yeah, again I think it is more than you think, but I agree that it's not like all these kids are holding out their bowls saying "Please sir, I'd like some more."
And by the way, I think that link is whack. You think 48% of the children in Indiana are 'dependent' on the free lunch program? Gimme a break.
 
North Carolina is probably the wealthiest state in the 'south'... Unless you are counting Virginia. I bet NC is wealthier than Indiana. The really dirt poor states are KY, Alabama, Mississippi. Most of Tennessee outside of Nashville.

Charlotte is downright bougie
It's still the 'south' and the 'south' is doing pretty damn well, economically.

You haven't driven through Tennessee much, have you? They've got more ex-Californians and blue state move-ins than they want.
 
It's still the 'south' and the 'south' is doing pretty damn well, economically.

You haven't driven through Tennessee much, have you? They've got more ex-Californians and blue state move-ins than they want.
Almost all in one city.
 
I think it's funny that people are fine with others getting their ass kicked but wouldn't like it if it was their own. Why not force universities to offer a college degree (any) for $5,000/year then your salary would be cut to offer it at that price. The Medicare price negotiation is a big joke. It's not a negotiation at all. It's the government telling the suppliers that this is the price they get. I'd be fine with that part of it but even doctors don't have to accept what Medicare pays.... they can refuse but from what I've read the pharmaceutical companies get fined if they don't accept the Medicare price.
What the hell is he talking about Republicans being against $35 insulin payments? That was Trump's plan and on course to be implemented until Joe killed it and waited 2 years to implement his own plan that did the same thing.
 
Almost all in one city.
Not true. I was driving through eastern Tennessee and stopped to get gas and talked to a guy who had lived in Indianapolis. His $145k house is now worth over $400k because of all the 'damn people moving in from other states.

And if you've ever driving around Knoxville, it's getting to be more like Atlanta's traffic.

Too many people are still living with incorrect stereotypes.
 
What the hell is he talking about Republicans being against $35 insulin payments? That was Trump's plan and on course to be implemented until Joe killed it and waited 2 years to implement his own plan that did the same thing.
This is complete nonsense. Trump's voluntary $35 cap for SOME people on Medicare did not take effect until 2021. It REMAINED in effect until the Biden administration expanded it to everyone on Medicare in 2023.
 
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