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The FF were right about giving us a democratic representative gov't. If a true democracy exist then tyranny of a majority is possible which could let the majority squash the opposition. Getting some things wrong doesn't eliminate the good system of gov't and the idea that our rights come from the Almighty not from government.

Just a heads up... in this forum injecting politics in this particular thread is frowned upon. And yes, winners' post (from 2018!) was out of line too.
 
Tehran season 2 starts May 6 appletv. About an Israeli spy. Shows perspectives from both sides, interesting. Dialogue in English, Hebrew, and Farsi. Surprisingly I found this not a distraction at all.
 
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It's been out a while, but this week I finally binged season 2 of The Righteous Gemstones.

This is a pretty solid show that deserves to get more press. But it's also starting to get really out there. The second half of the season was full of insane levels of absurdity. Anyone else still on this show?
 
It's been out a while, but this week I finally binged season 2 of The Righteous Gemstones.

This is a pretty solid show that deserves to get more press. But it's also starting to get really out there. The second half of the season was full of insane levels of absurdity. Anyone else still on this show?
Yes about halfway through the new season.
 
It's been out a while, but this week I finally binged season 2 of The Righteous Gemstones.

This is a pretty solid show that deserves to get more press. But it's also starting to get really out there. The second half of the season was full of insane levels of absurdity. Anyone else still on this show?
I've never seen it.

Regarding books:

My daughter starts high school next year and I'm thinking of starting a father/daughter book club with other interested families. My thinking was to focus only on books less than 250 pages so the adults would actually read the books. I found this interesting link to a list of books I've never read. Anyone have any opinions on any of these or others that might fit the bill?

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20 Extraordinary Books You Can Read in One Sitting

From the blisteringly contemporary to the classic, the lighthearted to the weighty, here are our favorite short novels to get lost in.
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It's been out a while, but this week I finally binged season 2 of The Righteous Gemstones.

This is a pretty solid show that deserves to get more press. But it's also starting to get really out there. The second half of the season was full of insane levels of absurdity. Anyone else still on this show?
Fun show. Too far out in the second half. I didn't like it as much
 
Has anyone seen The Offer on the making of The Godfather? It looks good but the Rotten Tomatoes score is pretty bad.
I watched the first episode & thought it was pretty good. I think an above average interest in the movie series may be needed to find it interesting. Audience scores on RT & IMDB are very good…
 
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I've never seen it.

Regarding books:

My daughter starts high school next year and I'm thinking of starting a father/daughter book club with other interested families. My thinking was to focus only on books less than 250 pages so the adults would actually read the books. I found this interesting link to a list of books I've never read. Anyone have any opinions on any of these or others that might fit the bill?

www.esquire.com

20 Extraordinary Books You Can Read in One Sitting

From the blisteringly contemporary to the classic, the lighthearted to the weighty, here are our favorite short novels to get lost in.
www.esquire.com
www.esquire.com
There are some interesting ones there. The first one looked to be like something that might be interesting. There was one that followed an influence who learns that there is more to life beyond the screen (might be good for a teen girl...or boy for that matter).

Do you know what kind of things she is interested in? What are you hoping to get out of the club? Sorry so many questions but it might help people direct you. Books can run from informative to provocative to simply nothing more than bubble gum entertainment.

An outside the box thought, graphic novels.
 
There are some interesting ones there. The first one looked to be like something that might be interesting. There was one that followed an influence who learns that there is more to life beyond the screen (might be good for a teen girl...or boy for that matter).

Do you know what kind of things she is interested in? What are you hoping to get out of the club? Sorry so many questions but it might help people direct you. Books can run from informative to provocative to simply nothing more than bubble gum entertainment.

An outside the box thought, graphic novels.
Thanks for the questions. Please don't apologize for them; I treat questions as a sign the person asking is interested!

My daughter likes mystery novels. But my main goals here with this are (in this order):

1. Spend time and strengthen my relationship with my daughter in her teen years and provide that opportunity to other dads
2. Read books with interesting ideas or well-crafted fiction so that we all can learn more or stretch our minds
3. Have fun (which means select books that a group of middle aged men and teenage girls would want to read).

I was thinking of running it like one of my freshman Great Books classes, which I loved. Each week each participant reads the book and then writes, on one page, 5-10 insights, observations, or questions they have for the group to talk about. Then we would cover those in the session.
 
Thanks for the questions. Please don't apologize for them; I treat questions as a sign the person asking is interested!

My daughter likes mystery novels. But my main goals here with this are (in this order):

1. Spend time and strengthen my relationship with my daughter in her teen years and provide that opportunity to other dads
2. Read books with interesting ideas or well-crafted fiction so that we all can learn more or stretch our minds
3. Have fun (which means select books that a group of middle aged men and teenage girls would want to read).

I was thinking of running it like one of my freshman Great Books classes, which I loved. Each week each participant reads the book and then writes, on one page, 5-10 insights, observations, or questions they have for the group to talk about. Then we would cover those in the session.
The Sun Also Rises - Hemingway
The Most Precious of Cargoes - Grumberg
Underlake - Heavey
The Things We Cannot Say - Rimmer

Maybe some ideas here?

 
Thanks for the questions. Please don't apologize for them; I treat questions as a sign the person asking is interested!

My daughter likes mystery novels. But my main goals here with this are (in this order):

1. Spend time and strengthen my relationship with my daughter in her teen years and provide that opportunity to other dads
2. Read books with interesting ideas or well-crafted fiction so that we all can learn more or stretch our minds
3. Have fun (which means select books that a group of middle aged men and teenage girls would want to read).

I was thinking of running it like one of my freshman Great Books classes, which I loved. Each week each participant reads the book and then writes, on one page, 5-10 insights, observations, or questions they have for the group to talk about. Then we would cover those in the session.
I recall reading some books with my kids in their teenage years, The Hobbit, some Harry Potter, Night, Animal Farm, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Fahrenheit 451. We listened to Fault in Our Stars, other Harry Potter, Hunger Games, and Twilight (on a trip that included a stop in Forks, WA). As you can tell, I chose some and they chose others.
 
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I recall reading some books with my kids in their teenage years, The Hobbit, some Harry Potter, Night, Animal Farm, To Kill a Mockingbird, and Fahrenheit 451. We listened to Fault in Our Stars, other Harry Potter, Hunger Games, and Twilight (on a trip that included a stop in Forks, WA). As you can tell, I chose some and they chose others.
The daughter and I both did the Hunger Games trilogy. It was good enough to keep me interested.

I recently bought her Watchers by Dean Koontz b/c she wanted to read something horror (she wanted It but I decided there is a certain scene in there to which she doesn't yet need exposure).

She read TKAM for class and we discussed it. Was always one of my favorites.

I might try to find her something on abortion. She is 15 now and has her own ideas about the subject and the debate should be interesting over the next several months.
 
The daughter and I both did the Hunger Games trilogy. It was good enough to keep me interested.

I recently bought her Watchers by Dean Koontz b/c she wanted to read something horror (she wanted It but I decided there is a certain scene in there to which she doesn't yet need exposure).

She read TKAM for class and we discussed it. Was always one of my favorites.

I might try to find her something on abortion. She is 15 now and has her own ideas about the subject and the debate should be interesting over the next several months.
I read The Watchers around her same age. Good book. Koontz is really easy reading and his stories are usually interesting. He isn't deep usually, but good bubble gum type of fun.
 
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The daughter and I both did the Hunger Games trilogy. It was good enough to keep me interested.

I recently bought her Watchers by Dean Koontz b/c she wanted to read something horror (she wanted It but I decided there is a certain scene in there to which she doesn't yet need exposure).

She read TKAM for class and we discussed it. Was always one of my favorites.

I might try to find her something on abortion. She is 15 now and has her own ideas about the subject and the debate should be interesting over the next several months.
The Giver?
 
I read The Watchers around her same age. Good book. Koontz is really easy reading and his stories are usually interesting. He isn't deep usually, but good bubble gum type of fun.
Spot on re koontz. Good on you and brad with this stuff. I need to do better. Replace our video games time with books
 
I read The Watchers around her same age. Good book. Koontz is really easy reading and his stories are usually interesting. He isn't deep usually, but good bubble gum type of fun.
Yeah, I probably stole it from my dad/mom around the same time and read it. Along with all the Steven King starting when i was about 11.
 
I saw Stephen King's houses on Maine. They are right next door to each other. You can walk right up to the front door
He's one of those writers that, in his prime (70's/80's) could put out a book a year, maybe more. That kind of creative streak must have been crazy for him. I know he snorted more coke than a vacuum during those years but just the ability to conjure worlds from nothing* along with the character development is breathtaking. He'll never be considered "literary" but damn if he doesn't tell a good story.



*and then relate it all back to Maine. I once heard all good writers are writing/thinking locally.
 
Thanks for the questions. Please don't apologize for them; I treat questions as a sign the person asking is interested!

My daughter likes mystery novels. But my main goals here with this are (in this order):

1. Spend time and strengthen my relationship with my daughter in her teen years and provide that opportunity to other dads
2. Read books with interesting ideas or well-crafted fiction so that we all can learn more or stretch our minds
3. Have fun (which means select books that a group of middle aged men and teenage girls would want to read).

I was thinking of running it like one of my freshman Great Books classes, which I loved. Each week each participant reads the book and then writes, on one page, 5-10 insights, observations, or questions they have for the group to talk about. Then we would cover those in the session.
have you considered Cormac McCarthy? I believe his novels to be excellent, and I think enjoyable for a teenager as well. The Road, Blood Meridian, The Crossing are all on my "must read" list.
 
He's one of those writers that, in his prime (70's/80's) could put out a book a year, maybe more. That kind of creative streak must have been crazy for him. I know he snorted more coke than a vacuum during those years but just the ability to conjure worlds from nothing* along with the character development is breathtaking. He'll never be considered "literary" but damn if he doesn't tell a good story.



*and then relate it all back to Maine. I once heard all good writers are writing/thinking locally.
I read his book on writing. He was all coked up. Some of those books he wrote in a week. Lol. Insane
 
Holy hell. I love McCarthy but he has some very very heavy books. Not sure these are teen books. Maybe the Border Trilogy?
Yea, I went back and read Brad's post and it is for an incoming Freshman. Probably a little young. I was thinking more teenager. I think a junior or senior in high school it would be ok.
 
Yea, I went back and read Brad's post and it is for an incoming Freshman. Probably a little young. I was thinking more teenager. I think a junior or senior in high school it would be ok.
He's one of my all time favorite authors but his books are hard, especially the older stuff like Sutree etc.
 
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That’s a great idea. I’ve read a couple in the list you mention. I hesitate to recommend, because when I’m reading for myself, I’m not thinking if it’s appropriate for a young teen. You might look into John Green’s book. He’s an INDY author who became very popular with teens after The Fault in Our Stars.All of his books are well written and he covers a variety of topics, including suicide and mental illness. What about letting the kids pick the first couple books so you can get an idea of interests?
 
That’s a great idea. I’ve read a couple in the list you mention. I hesitate to recommend, because when I’m reading for myself, I’m not thinking if it’s appropriate for a young teen. You might look into John Green’s book. He’s an INDY author who became very popular with teens after The Fault in Our Stars.All of his books are well written and he covers a variety of topics, including suicide and mental illness. What about letting the kids pick the first couple books so you can get an idea of interests?
Thanks. My initial idea was to put together a list of books that we could select from.
 
Finished Ozark last night. Any thoughts on the finale? I didn't think the ending was great. That said was a super fun, original show.
 
Finished Ozark last night. Any thoughts on the finale? I didn't think the ending was great. That said was a super fun, original show.
Finished the last two episodes Thursday night. Don’t want to destroy the ending for anyone, but I was disappointed with one of the decisions made by the show runners. That said, it also had a little bit of a The Sopranos type of ending, with a lot of ambiguity. Maybe that’s an opening for a sequel.

Overall, though, I enjoyed it and I’ll miss it. It’s in the top five with The Sopranos, GOT, Breaking Bad and Lonesome Dove.
 
Finished the last two episodes Thursday night. Don’t want to destroy the ending for anyone, but I was disappointed with one of the decisions made by the show runners. That said, it also had a little bit of a The Sopranos type of ending, with a lot of ambiguity. Maybe that’s an opening for a sequel.

Overall, though, I enjoyed it and I’ll miss it. It’s in the top five with The Sopranos, GOT, Breaking Bad and Lonesome Dove.
Agreed! I'd be curious to hear later what decision you were disappointed with. Definitely top ten all time for me
 
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