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More voter fraud, casting multiple ballots in Florida in 2020

Mark, my apologies. After dinner tonight I looked at multiple sources and you are correct in your description of the merger of registration records.

It is, without a doubt, one of the most screwed up processes I can imagine. Instead of actually verifying a person's actual birthday, to put in a default date of 1900 for birth and 1918 for registration, is just..... bizarre, in my opinion.

It makes me even more pessimistic that we can have an honest election when there is such bogus registration data out there.
It’s all good. I thought you already knew I’m always right hahaha
 
And I've explained to you that, if a voter registration doesn't have a valid birth date on it - one that can be taken from the original registration form - that is is not a valid registration.

You know that, and yet you insist on claiming to see no problem.
They became valid as they verified voters and updated the press holder dates. By the time of the election all except something around 1500 (going from memory, but it’s a very small number) we’re verified and valid, or purged. There’s no evidence that invalid votes were cast and even if everyone of those were Democrats (how stupid would one have to be to believe that?) and voted for Biden, Trump still lost. Face it, Trump is a loser and the sooner he’s purged from the party the better.
 
Mark, my apologies. After dinner tonight I looked at multiple sources and you are correct in your description of the merger of registration records.

It is, without a doubt, one of the most screwed up processes I can imagine. Instead of actually verifying a person's actual birthday, to put in a default date of 1900 for birth and 1918 for registration, is just..... bizarre, in my opinion.

It makes me even more pessimistic that we can have an honest election when there is such bogus registration data out there.
It’s pretty standard when merging data. The data is pretty quickly cleaned up post merger.
 
It’s pretty standard when merging data. The data is pretty quickly cleaned up post merger.
Dude..... merging data was a big part of my career - migrating from one system to another.

I know all about it, which is why I know the way this was done was totally screwed up. It had to have been done by complete amateurs.
 
They became valid as they verified voters and updated the press holder dates. By the time of the election all except something around 1500 (going from memory, but it’s a very small number) we’re verified and valid, or purged. There’s no evidence that invalid votes were cast and even if everyone of those were Democrats (how stupid would one have to be to believe that?) and voted for Biden, Trump still lost. Face it, Trump is a loser and the sooner he’s purged from the party the better.
You never fail to bring your hate to Trump into a discussion.

You really could just argue the point without doing it. I often agree with you, but then you have to throw the zinger in at the end. Not that you care how I feel about it, but it gets tiresome.
 
Dude..... merging data was a big part of my career - migrating from one system to another.

I know all about it, which is why I know the way this was done was totally screwed up. It had to have been done by complete amateurs.
The guys that did a big data merger last year where I work, work for me. They did a very similar thing with a couple of the data fields. These guys have doctorates and masters degrees and find this stuff enjoyable. They knew what they were doing. 11 months later and the data cleanup resulting from normal business operations is 99 percent complete.
 
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You never fail to bring your hate to Trump into a discussion.

You really could just argue the point without doing it. I often agree with you, but then you have to throw the zinger in at the end. Not that you care how I feel about it, but it gets tiresome.
There are few things I feel more strongly about than the damage he’s done to the party and the need to purge him from it. That’s not hatred, it’s just objective observation and reason. Sorry about that.
 
There are few things I feel more strongly about than the damage he’s done to the party and the need to purge him from it. That’s not hatred, it’s just objective observation and reason. Sorry about that.
No, if you look at his overall Presidency, the damage of the DNC and FBI did far more damage to the US than Trump ever could do.

Sorry, but you are driven by hatred and you are nowhere near objective when it comes to Trump.

What damage did HE do to the Party, other than to win an election that everyone was giving to Hillary before he was even nominated?
 
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The guys that did a big data merger last year where I work, work for me. They did a very similar thing with a couple of the data fields. These guys have doctorates and masters degrees and find this stuff enjoyable. They knew what they were doing. 11 months later and the data cleanup resulting from normal business operations is 99 percent complete.
No offense, but when we did a data migration, it had to be done in a tight timeframe and be 100% done by the time the new system came up on Monday in time for start of business.

It just takes timing and many practice runs and testing, testing, testing!
 
I love the idea that people were smart enough to cheat the system and get illegal votes in but dumb enough they used the exact same 104 or so year old date for. They put in different names, addresses, genders, but put in a date so old there is almost no one that age in America
 
I love the idea that people were smart enough to cheat the system and get illegal votes in but dumb enough they used the exact same 104 or so year old date for. They put in different names, addresses, genders, but put in a date so old there is almost no one that age in America
Not to mention that the voters involved had to be REALLY old, because they had to have been registered and voting regularly prior to the adoption of computerized registration. In general that particular demographic favors Trump, but of course that sort of logical reasoning is too inconvenient when you're trying to promote a conspiracy theory...
 
No, if you look at his overall Presidency, the damage of the DNC and FBI did far more damage to the US than Trump ever could do.

Sorry, but you are driven by hatred and you are nowhere near objective when it comes to Trump.

What damage did HE do to the Party, other than to win an election that everyone was giving to Hillary before he was even nominated?

We already had one party that was completely detached from reality, facts and common sense. Now we have two. That's what he did.
 
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It's pretty simple, really.

At one point, to register to vote you had to prove that you were 18. You'd show your ID and the person registering people would check a box "yes". Done deal.

Then the law was changed such that a yes box having been checked was not good enough: an actual date of birth had to be put on file when registering people.

But what about all of those registered under the old system? You'd have large numbers of people that have already been vetted as being of voting age yet didn't have a date of birth in the database. So you could either waste tons of money going back and gathering all of that info, or you could but in a "dummy date" for all of the people that you knew with 100% certainty were old enough to vote when they started voting, anyway.

Most often a fiscal conservative would, I think, say "don't waste all of that money, you already know those people can vote legally". But here, so-called conservatives twist the truth and claim that cheating is going on.

Use the brain God gave you.
 
There are few things I feel more strongly about than the damage he’s done to the party and the need to purge him from it. That’s not hatred, it’s just objective observation and reason. Sorry about that.
Trump's not done damaging things yet, if Republicans let him.

Now, he's endorsing a political novice that he's never met:

“I have known Dr. Oz for many years, as have many others, even if only through his very successful television show,” Trump said of Oz.

 
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Trump's not done damaging things yet, if Republicans let him.

Now, he's endorsing a political novice that he's never met:

“I have known Dr. Oz for many years, as have many others, even if only through his very successful television show,” Trump said of Oz.

LOL OK, what do you have against Dr. Oz?
 
LOL OK, what do you have against Dr. Oz?
That's not the question, since none of us are voting in the PA GOP (or Dem, for that matter) Primary in May. The question is what do MAGA team McCormick and MAGA team Oz have against each other respectively? The two have spent $18 million of their own money combined to attack each other in their quest to gain the GOP nomination and "represent" the common man...

Here's McCormick attacking Oz as a RINO...



And here's an even sillier ad from Oz trying to paint McCormick as an out of state carpetbagger. No doubt this concept was developed by Team Oz at his mansion- in New Jersey...

 
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That's not the question, since none of us are voting in the PA GOP (or Dem, for that matter) Primary in May. The question is what do MAGA team McCormick and MAGA team Oz have against each other respectively? The two have spent $18 million of their own money combined to attack each other in their quest to gain the GOP nomination and "represent" the common man...

Here's McCormick attacking Oz as a RINO...



And here's an even sillier ad from Oz trying to paint McCormick as an out of state carpetbagger. No doubt this concept was developed by Team Oz at his mansion- in New Jersey...

I wasn't talking to you, bot.
 
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It's pretty simple, really.

At one point, to register to vote you had to prove that you were 18. You'd show your ID and the person registering people would check a box "yes". Done deal.

Then the law was changed such that a yes box having been checked was not good enough: an actual date of birth had to be put on file when registering people.

But what about all of those registered under the old system? You'd have large numbers of people that have already been vetted as being of voting age yet didn't have a date of birth in the database. So you could either waste tons of money going back and gathering all of that info, or you could but in a "dummy date" for all of the people that you knew with 100% certainty were old enough to vote when they started voting, anyway.

Most often a fiscal conservative would, I think, say "don't waste all of that money, you already know those people can vote legally". But here, so-called conservatives twist the truth and claim that cheating is going on.

Use the brain God gave you.
Speaking of "fiscal" conservatives and wasting money on foolishness...

Remember the case where the nutjob ran an air conditioner repairman off the road and held him at gunpoint while they ransacked his truck looking for "illegal" mail order ballots"? That was in Texas and was a premeptive move before Trump lost conducted in a state that Trump actually won...

Well yesterday the guy that hired and paid the morons who were chasing down imaginary voter fraud was indicted on two felony counts over that incident, even though he didn't personally participate in the monumental ****up himself. He actually paid these clowns (and the ex-cop brandishing the weapon in particular) $266,400 to chase down phony voter fraud. And in the indictment it was revealed that of the $266,000 +, that most o it ($211,400) was paid the day AFTER the incident with the kidnapping at gunpoint...

Just think how much money (and legal consequences to come) this idiot could have saved if he'd only sent his gang of thugs to the Villages to track down actual fraud, rather than chase after imaginary voter fraud in Houston. They basically ran a poor truck driver off the road and could have killed him in the process, since it was dark and they rammed him with their vehicle. Not to mention abducting him at gunpoint...

 
Speaking of "fiscal" conservatives and wasting money on foolishness...

Remember the case where the nutjob ran an air conditioner repairman off the road and held him at gunpoint while they ransacked his truck looking for "illegal" mail order ballots"? That was in Texas and was a premeptive move before Trump lost conducted in a state that Trump actually won...

Well yesterday the guy that hired and paid the morons who were chasing down imaginary voter fraud was indicted on two felony counts over that incident, even though he didn't personally participate in the monumental ****up himself. He actually paid these clowns (and the ex-cop brandishing the weapon in particular) $266,400 to chase down phony voter fraud. And in the indictment it was revealed that of the $266,000 +, that most o it ($211,400) was paid the day AFTER the incident with the kidnapping at gunpoint...

Just think how much money (and legal consequences to come) this idiot could have saved if he'd only sent his gang of thugs to the Villages to track down actual fraud, rather than chase after imaginary voter fraud in Houston. They basically ran a poor truck driver off the road and could have killed him in the process, since it was dark and they rammed him with their vehicle. Not to mention abducting him at gunpoint...

Another happy ending follow up where people who were victimized got paid, and may end up getting even more down the road...

So you may remember the election official in Fulton Co and her elderly Mother who agreed to fill in on election day and were falsely targeted by Team Trump in a video claiming they were illegally counting fraudulent ballots...
Both Trump and Giuliani used the video as "evidence" in their Big Lie nonsense, and OAN in particular showed the video repeatedly and ginned up members of their audience to the point where the women were forced to move and go into hiding...

Well the two women fought back and filed suit, and today it was announced that a settlement had been reached with OAN. Now the reason I say that they could possibly get more is because Rudy was also a defendant, as well as a few other individuals connected to OAN. The settlement reads that the plaintiffs will ask the Chief Judge to remove OAN as defendants in the litigation, leaving Rudy as the sole defendant moving forward...

This strikes me as a particularly satisfying development because I always empathized with these two ladies who were just doing their job. This was especially true of the Mother who had basically agreed to help her daughter out after covid concerns resulted in a depleted work staff among poll workers. They found themselves in a maelstrom after kooks similar to the type of folks who ran the truck driver in Houston off the road decided that something routine like counting ballots had to take on sinister implications.


 
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