More attempted voter fraud (by you know who) thwarted by routine safeguards

[NPT]

So if we want to improve voting, make people decide based on the individual and not the party.

That would be great!!!!

 

[NPT]

Only Dade county didn’t know how to poke a hole in a ballot

That's not what I'm saying.... I am sure there are lots of other counties.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

That's not what I'm saying.... I am sure there are lots of other counties.

That was just a bad joke. My bad

 

[NPT]

I know people who are very smart in some areas but have real issues doing anything on their computers.

First, I didn't mean they are dumb overall. I meant they are too dumb to vote. I'm sure you wouldn't call the person(s) mentioned in your quote to work on your computer.

 

[sweetsilence]

That reminds me of the 2000 election when they were claiming the ballot was so confusing that people didn't know how to vote yet, if I recall correctly, they gave ballot to 2nd or 3rd graders and told them to vote for Gore and they didn't heve any problems doing it. I do think there are some on both sides that are really too dumb to vote. Maybe dumb is the wrong word but there are some that have no idea what they are voting for.

I think you should have to answer one basic question to qualify to vote.

What are the 3 branches of government?

If you can't do that with plenty of time to learn it and a quick Google search you've got no business voting. It doesn't get any easier so I think that's fair.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Cleaning voter rolls is not hard. Stop making it sound like it’s hard. Some states just don’t want to do it.

We’re just going to disagree on this. I don’t believe everyone should vote. I don’t believe in rallying every single citizen to vote. If you’re apathetic and uninformed, please, please don’t vote.

I think dumbasses like you shouldn't vote. Neither of us gets our way.

 

[jet812]

Anyone can do it. Anyone, and that is the problem l. This is a weakness we know about. We HAD a solution for it until Florida dropped out triggering sheep states to follow.

But in all the talk of voter fraud here, I am the only one that mentions it. Why do you think that is? Could it be that Whites of some means are more likely to move between states, and we care less about them illegally voting? Hence why we here so much about possible fraud in ATL or PHI and not the suburbs yet Biden won because of the suburbs.

“Whites of some means are more likely to move between states”? I’m not interested in discussing election security within the context of race, I’ll leave it to you focus on that. I prefer to look at measures that can be applied to everyone. How do we make in-person voting accessible to everyone, save for the few scenarios which make that impossible? How is it reasonable to require ID to drive, buy liquor, cigarettes, lottery tix, & on & on, but not to vote for the most important job in the world? Requiring ID & voting in-person addresses nearly every security concern, including voting in multiple states.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Between Aloha’s Thor Hammer from the Right, and Marvin’s thousands of paper cuts from the Left, the MAGAssclowns sure get destroyed on the WC.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

“Whites of some means are more likely to move between states”? I’m not interested in discussing election security within the context of race, I’ll leave it to you focus on that. I prefer to look at measures that can be applied to everyone. How do we make in-person voting accessible to everyone, save for the few scenarios which make that impossible? How is it reasonable to require ID to drive, buy liquor, cigarettes, lottery tix, & on & on, but not to vote for the most important job in the world? Requiring ID & voting in-person addresses nearly every security concern, including voting in multiple states.

It depends on the state, some states require two hours off to vote with pay. But some don't require time off or pay. In states without that, taking time to vote is a big problem for wage earners compared to salaried (or investment class). In towns with poor mass transit, it can easily take two hours to go from a job to vote and back. To a person living paycheck to paycheck, that can easily be a problem.

We could move the elections to a weekend, or make it a holiday. After all, we don't want the elite to control things, do we?

Even in a one day vote, it would be easy to vote in Milwaukee and Chicago. What do we do for disabled people who can't go to the polls? What do we do for people who will be out of state or out of country? Doctors working in the ER, they often work 12 hour shifts?

I really do believe this, I would rather Trump win in a record-setting voter turnout than Harris in a tiny turnout even though I absolutely don't want Trump to win. We need participation, skin in game. We need people involved, having their voices heard. Even people who believe in fairy tales (the election was stolen) need to be heard. Making it far harder for ordinary folks to vote doesn't help. It is bad enough the long lines are almost always in very poor districts. Let's not make it even worse where only the "elite" can show up to vote.