More attempted voter fraud (by you know who) thwarted by routine safeguards
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That's not what I'm saying.... I am sure there are lots of other counties.
First, I didn't mean they are dumb overall. I meant they are too dumb to vote. I'm sure you wouldn't call the person(s) mentioned in your quote to work on your computer.
I think dumbasses like you shouldn't vote. Neither of us gets our way.
“Whites of some means are more likely to move between states”? I’m not interested in discussing election security within the context of race, I’ll leave it to you focus on that. I prefer to look at measures that can be applied to everyone. How do we make in-person voting accessible to everyone, save for the few scenarios which make that impossible? How is it reasonable to require ID to drive, buy liquor, cigarettes, lottery tix, & on & on, but not to vote for the most important job in the world? Requiring ID & voting in-person addresses nearly every security concern, including voting in multiple states.
Between Aloha’s Thor Hammer from the Right, and Marvin’s thousands of paper cuts from the Left, the MAGAssclowns sure get destroyed on the WC.
It depends on the state, some states require two hours off to vote with pay. But some don't require time off or pay. In states without that, taking time to vote is a big problem for wage earners compared to salaried (or investment class). In towns with poor mass transit, it can easily take two hours to go from a job to vote and back. To a person living paycheck to paycheck, that can easily be a problem.
We could move the elections to a weekend, or make it a holiday. After all, we don't want the elite to control things, do we?
Even in a one day vote, it would be easy to vote in Milwaukee and Chicago. What do we do for disabled people who can't go to the polls? What do we do for people who will be out of state or out of country? Doctors working in the ER, they often work 12 hour shifts?
I really do believe this, I would rather Trump win in a record-setting voter turnout than Harris in a tiny turnout even though I absolutely don't want Trump to win. We need participation, skin in game. We need people involved, having their voices heard. Even people who believe in fairy tales (the election was stolen) need to be heard. Making it far harder for ordinary folks to vote doesn't help. It is bad enough the long lines are almost always in very poor districts. Let's not make it even worse where only the "elite" can show up to vote.
I imagine that this is more or less a case of a lazy registrant wanting to inflate his/her numbers and get paid more...Really is a travesty. Look at this.
Pennsylvania officials investigating fraudulent voter registration applications in Lancaster County
Election workers identified issues with as many as 2,500 forms during a routine review of voter registrations.www.nbcnews.com
2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.
Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.
All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.
That said I'm hearing rumblings that it was a far Right group involved in trying to register voters in Lancaster Co (a GOP county) that employed the individual(s) involved
But for all of our friends who are quick to accuse "libs" of voter fraud...This may be the most blatant (and hilarious) example of illegal voting activity I've ever heard of. And notice how he had previously invoked Jesus,I guess in reference to Trump...
Agree that there is a need for some mail in voting. Any data on long lines in poor districts? If this is true then that needs to be addressed, but as more ways to cheat are exposed, they will be exploited more, likely by foreign influencers than by our parties. I think the premise that a few people getting caught shows the system works is preposterous. Whether it is enough to influence an election is too difficult to determine, no level of fraud is acceptable imo.
I know you understand that the objective is to pad the registration numbers so that when the pallets of phony ballots are run through the Dominion machines, there are phony registrations to cover the crime.Really is a travesty. Look at this.
Pennsylvania officials investigating fraudulent voter registration applications in Lancaster County
Election workers identified issues with as many as 2,500 forms during a routine review of voter registrations.
2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.
Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.
All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.
The 'progressives' might know this despite their SPEA degree limitations....
Hey look over there....!!
Where's the ****** who always whinges about 'sources'?
'I'm hearing that.....'
,ullshit
Does SPEA still claim 100% job placement? Why do some Republicans want to call the other side “Progressive”? Isn’t that a positive? Meanwhile my side gave up “Conservstive” with Trickle Down, now we are simply “traditionalist”- enough semantics for some- I just want social security!
You could have voted in both states if you had your id from both states. I’m certain you’d do it for the Orange Orangutan and probably already have.
But, see, I can hear them whining, "That's just too hard!" Wah. Wah.
It shouldn't happen at all of course, but most people (1) don't even know the procedure you described, and (2) don't have the patience to game the system even if they did know.
People don't want to do anything complicated these days, especially if it takes time and effort plus they don't make a dime from it. That's kind of a safeguard too.
In your example, does Wisconsin even have a procedure to voluntarily remove your name from Wisconsin's voting rolls when you move?
What would that procedure be? Ideally, such a procedure should also apply when you move in-state too, because that would affect whom you can vote for in elections for offices that have districts, like city council, school board, county offices, Congress, state legislature etc.
Every time I've moved I have never once thought about changing my voter registration, in the middle of making sure the movers show up and getting the electricity turned on.
This is pretty incredible -- and the state of Michigan is apparently working to rectify it. They've located 164,000 "excess ballots" in Michigan -- that is, one individual voter casting more than one ballot.
Look at the "Voter ID" column. It's all the same person. Imagine if this had gone undetected.
** Update: Lara Trump says that this was the result of a "glitch in the system" and will not be counted. It would be interested to learn more. I'm not saying it wasn't that -- it probably was. But what was the nature of the glitch?
Look at the "Voter ID" column. It's all the same person. Imagine if this had gone undetected.
** Update: Lara Trump says that this was the result of a "glitch in the system" and will not be counted. It would be interested to learn more. I'm not saying it wasn't that -- it probably was. But what was the nature of the glitch?
Elon Musk had hired canvassers to put into cages and lured to Michigan. The subcontractor was called Blitz. They were threatened with promised jobs, but the jobs were to get out to vote for Trump. They were tricked and threatened with no logging if they did not meet certain quotas. The canvassers are all black, they were flown to Michigan and put in U-haul with no seat belts. They were supposed to be door knockers. This isn't very pleasant, the gop will try anything to get out the vote. They do not care about black and brown people. Elon Musk and trump do not care about workers, they do not care about people. Mike Johnson is trying to get rid of the ACA PLUS they are trying to get rid of Social Security wake up people. trump is for the rich. He does not care about the middle class.
It looks suspicious as hell.Given we agree the OP was outrageous, how do you feel about this scam from a progressive PAC?
Misleading text messages from ‘voter mobilization’ group create confusion in key swing states | CNN Politics
Thousands of voters in Pennsylvania received a confusing text message this weekend claiming they already voted in the 2024 presidential election.amp.cnn.com
Claims made on a web site in this day and age do not persuade me that it truly is from "a progressive PAC." Repeated stupid mistakes in messaging sent into several states starts to look intentional.
Calling it a lie and prosecuting would be difficult, I think, because of the low bar set by our politicians who don't always care about accuracy.
No question there could or has been PACs trying to interfere by pretending to act like the opposite party and such, however, this one's left-leaning owner admitted to such a mistake.
Either way, I don't chalk things like this up to being mistakes. It takes a conscious decision by people to push things like that out.
