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More attempted voter fraud (by you know who) thwarted by routine safeguards

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Really is a travesty. Look at this.


2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.

Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.

All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.
 
Instances of thwarted fraud means that no fraud is occurring.
But we know a very large potential source of fraud, people moving from one state to another. We had a compact that would look and report the to be removed from the old state. But as part of it, states were required to send postcards to non voters encouraging them to register. Republican states did not like that and dropped out. So the millions that have moved states remain registered in all.

A pretty big risk of fraud for not wanting to send a postcard.
 
But we know a very large potential source of fraud, people moving from one state to another. We had a compact that would look and report the to be removed from the old state. But as part of it, states were required to send postcards to non voters encouraging them to register. Republican states did not like that and dropped out. So the millions that have moved states remain registered in all.

A pretty big risk of fraud for not wanting to send a postcard.
Cleaning voter rolls is not hard. Stop making it sound like it’s hard. Some states just don’t want to do it.

We’re just going to disagree on this. I don’t believe everyone should vote. I don’t believe in rallying every single citizen to vote. If you’re apathetic and uninformed, please, please don’t vote.
 
Nearly all from people paid piece rates to register voters, sponsored by political activists of all stripes. And they were caught, so no fraudulent votes resulted.

Everything /= everything.
How do we know no fraudulent votes will result from this scheme?
 
Cleaning voter rolls is not hard. Stop making it sound like it’s hard. Some states just don’t want to do it.

We’re just going to disagree on this. I don’t believe everyone should vote. I don’t believe in rallying every single citizen to vote. If you’re apathetic and uninformed, please, please don’t vote.

They are not cleaned properly in any state. When you moved to Chicago, they should have contacted Bugtussle and told them. That does not happen. There is a gap.

The article below says 2.75 million were registered in multiple states in 2012. And later, some big names were found registered in multiple.

First, a reporter at the Sarasota Herald-Tribune uncovered that Stephen Bannon, senior adviser to the president, was registered to vote in both Florida and New York.​

Steven Mnuchin, Trump’s nominee for secretary of the treasury; White House advisor (and Trump’s son-in-law) Jared Kushner; and First Daughter Tiffany Trump were also all registered to vote in two states, as CNN, the Washington Post, and Heatstreet reported, respectively.​

 
Really is a travesty. Look at this.


2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.

Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.

All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.
Long prison sentences from conviction on RICO crimes for election corruption would be effective.
 
They are not cleaned properly in any state. When you moved to Chicago, they should have contacted Bugtussle and told them. That does not happen. There is a gap.

The article below says 2.75 million were registered in multiple states in 2012. And later, some big names were found registered in multiple.

First, a reporter at the Sarasota Herald-Tribune uncovered that Stephen Bannon, senior adviser to the president, was registered to vote in both Florida and New York.​

Steven Mnuchin, Trump’s nominee for secretary of the treasury; White House advisor (and Trump’s son-in-law) Jared Kushner; and First Daughter Tiffany Trump were also all registered to vote in two states, as CNN, the Washington Post, and Heatstreet reported, respectively.​

When I moved from Austin, Texas (quite a backwater hellhole like Bugtussle) back home to Chicago I registered to vote immediately upon return, and procured my Illinois identification. The Texas SoS office purged me from the voter rolls during their annual cleanup. In the chance there was an oversight, someone with my identification would have needed to vote in my stead fraudulently in Texas.

This is not hard. Stop making it sound hard.
 
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When I moved from Austin, Texas (quite a backwater hellhole like Bugtussle) back home to Chicago I registered to vote immediately upon return, and procured my Illinois identification. The Texas SoS office purged me from the voter rolls during their annual cleanup. In the chance there was an oversight, someone with identification would have needed to vote in my stead fraudulently in Texas.

This is not hard. Stop making it sound hard.
You sure you were purged? Sounds like IF Austin thought you moved they would put you on a suspension list, meaning you will be purged if you do not vote this year

Now the question, how did Austin KNOW you moved out of the city?

Usually of people fail to vote in MULTIPLE elections, they are sent registered mail telling them they must attest to still living where they are registered. This is not done out of the blue, nor for not voting in a single election.

How did Austin know you were gone?

 
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You sure you were purged? Sounds like IF Austin thought you moved they would put you on a suspension list, meaning you will be purged if you do not vote this year

Now the question, how did Austin KNOW you moved out of the city?

Usually of people fail to vote in MULTIPLE elections, they are sent registered mail telling them they must attest to still living where they are registered. This is not done out of the blue, nor for not voting in a single election.

How did Austin know you were gone?

How would someone have voted in my place considering Texas requires voter identification?

Stuff is not hard.
 
You could vote. You could vote in Illinois and Texas.
We’re talking super, super edge cases of voter fraud at this point. Assuming every state puts in place common sense voter ID laws and voter roll cleaning. Someone would have to move states, procure a new ID, retain their old ID, go back to their old state and vote, as well as vote in their current state.

You go through with that. You’ve earned fraudulent vote
 
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We’re talking super, super edge cases of voter fraud at this point. Assuming every state puts in place common sense voter ID laws and voter roll cleaning. Someone would have to move states, procure a new ID, retain their old ID, go back to their old state and vote, as well as vote in their current state.

You fo through with that. You’ve earned fraudulent vote
This from the party that believes bus loads of people are doing this.

Keeping the ID is easy, change your license but not your NRA membership.

But even beyond voting twice, if you had just moved from Wisconsin to Illinois, you wouldn't realize just how much more valuable your vote is in Wisconsin.
 
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This from the party that believes bus loads of people are doing this.

Keeping the ID is easy, change your license but not your NRA membership.

But even beyond voting twice, if you had just moved from Wisconsin to Illinois, you wouldn't realize just how much more valuable your vote is in Wisconsin.
I say let’s tackle the large problems first. Non-citizens and people that haven’t voted in years, clear them from your rolls. Require ID. Don’t automatically register everyone who gets a drivers license. Common sense stuff.

Then we can get into the minutia. What you’re proposing is federal intervention which is a piss poor idea.
 
I say let’s tackle the large problems first. Non-citizens and people that haven’t voted in years, clear them from your rolls. Require ID. Don’t automatically register everyone who gets a drivers license. Common sense stuff.

Then we can get into the minutia. What you’re proposing is federal intervention which is a piss poor idea.

How many non-citizens voted in 2020?
 
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This from the party that believes bus loads of people are doing this.

Keeping the ID is easy, change your license but not your NRA membership.

But even beyond voting twice, if you had just moved from Wisconsin to Illinois, you wouldn't realize just how much more valuable your vote is in Wisconsin.
In regards to your last paragraph...I have a friend that lives in Chicago (for at least 8 years now) who posted a pic of her holding her Wisconsin ballot saying she just proudly voted. It is common for younger Chicagoans to keep things like their car registered in Wisconsin , Indiana, Michigan etc to save on insurance and city stickers. Anyone know the legalities on this? If Wisconsin comes down to one vote...
 
I don’t believe everyone should vote

I do get that sentiment, all these low information "the election was stolen" voters do tax my faith, not to mention create fear of more massive mental illness issues in our nation than ever suspected. But they should be allowed to vote, it is a bedrock principle.
 
Really is a travesty. Look at this.


2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.

Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.

All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.
Same day voting solves nothing, paper ballots cause more problems than they solve.

Clean the roles every four years and use 100% electronic balloting.
 
I do get that sentiment, all these low information "the election was stolen" voters do tax my faith, not to mention create fear of more massive mental illness issues in our nation than ever suspected. But they should be allowed to vote, it is a bedrock principle.
I listen to so many of these Maga types and shake my head. They have completely bought into this comic book creature and ignore every red flag and every dump he takes on this country. The sooner he is gone the sooner the republican party can do a total cleanse and rebuild itself into something useful.

The fact that I have to either sit out or hold my nose and vote for harris literally makes me sick.
 
I listen to so many of these Maga types and shake my head. They have completely bought into this comic book creature and ignore every red flag and every dump he takes on this country. The sooner he is gone the sooner the republican party can do a total cleanse and rebuild itself into something useful.

The fact that I have to either sit out or hold my nose and vote for harris literally makes me sick.
I can’t like this post enough
 

Thank God Trump called everyone's attention to the possibilities of voter fraud so that fraudulent Republican voters can be caught.

Ratchet up the sentences. Let’s start taking hands, legs…

No more fvcking around. If you try and cheat the system, your are permanently theowing away your life.
 
They are not cleaned properly in any state. When you moved to Chicago, they should have contacted Bugtussle and told them. That does not happen. There is a gap.

The article below says 2.75 million were registered in multiple states in 2012. And later, some big names were found registered in multiple.

First, a reporter at the Sarasota Herald-Tribune uncovered that Stephen Bannon, senior adviser to the president, was registered to vote in both Florida and New York.​

Steven Mnuchin, Trump’s nominee for secretary of the treasury; White House advisor (and Trump’s son-in-law) Jared Kushner; and First Daughter Tiffany Trump were also all registered to vote in two states, as CNN, the Washington Post, and Heatstreet reported, respectively.​

Are we to infer that only Republicans do this from your post, or just indicative of your bias?

Most people, like me, that want election security don’t care who the perpetrators are, they just want secure elections.
 
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But we know a very large potential source of fraud, people moving from one state to another. We had a compact that would look and report the to be removed from the old state. But as part of it, states were required to send postcards to non voters encouraging them to register. Republican states did not like that and dropped out. So the millions that have moved states remain registered in all.

A pretty big risk of fraud for not wanting to send a postcard.
Wby should the stetes or anyone have to remind you to encourage you to vote? If a person doesn't know they can register and vote then they are too dumb to vote.
 
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Thank God Trump called everyone's attention to the possibilities of voter fraud so that fraudulent Republican voters can be caught.

Given we agree the OP was outrageous, how do you feel about this scam from a progressive PAC?

 
I do get that sentiment, all these low information "the election was stolen" voters do tax my faith, not to mention create fear of more massive mental illness issues in our nation than ever suspected. But they should be allowed to vote, it is a bedrock principle.
That reminds me of the 2000 election when they were claiming the ballot was so confusing that people didn't know how to vote yet, if I recall correctly, they gave ballot to 2nd or 3rd graders and told them to vote for Gore and they didn't heve any problems doing it. I do think there are some on both sides that are really too dumb to vote. Maybe dumb is the wrong word but there are some that have no idea what they are voting for.
 
Are we to infer that only Republicans do this from your post, or just indicative of your bias?

Most people, like me, that want election security don’t care who the perpetrators are, they just want secure elections.

Anyone can do it. Anyone, and that is the problem l. This is a weakness we know about. We HAD a solution for it until Florida dropped out triggering sheep states to follow.

But in all the talk of voter fraud here, I am the only one that mentions it. Why do you think that is? Could it be that Whites of some means are more likely to move between states, and we care less about them illegally voting? Hence why we here so much about possible fraud in ATL or PHI and not the suburbs yet Biden won because of the suburbs.
 
That reminds me of the 2000 election when they were claiming the ballot was so confusing that people didn't know how to vote yet, if I recall correctly, they gave ballot to 2nd or 3rd graders and told them to vote for Gore and they didn't heve any problems doing it. I do think there are some on both sides that are really too dumb to vote. Maybe dumb is the wrong word but there are some that have no idea what they are voting for.
Only Dade county didn’t know how to poke a hole in a ballot
 
Wby should the stetes or anyone have to remind you to encourage you to vote? If a person doesn't know they can register and vote then they are too dumb to vote.

I'm afraid I have to disagree anyone is too dumb to vote. First and foremost, that sort of thinking led to only property-owning White males voting for a very long time. Second, there are all sorts of intelligence. I know people who are very smart in some areas but have real issues doing anything on their computers.

If we want to target low information voters, Indiana should remove the straight party vote. All states should remove the D/R/L next to names. Stop thinking of candidates as team red or team blue, that is about as low information as it gets. We all know out there somewhere, as an example, is someone who sees a Trump commercial and like what he says but will get into the booth and vote straight D, or will see the R next to Trump and think, 'I can't vote for a Republican, I am a Democrat."

So if we want to improve voting, make people decide based on the individual and not the party. If they want to memorize every D or R on the ballot, fine. But that is on them to do it.
 
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