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Michael Jordan on if 90’s Bulls could beat LeBron’s Lakers

Bird's off season meant going back to French Lick to lay his mom's gravel driveway drinking PBRs all day and throwing out his back.
I recall it being true that fixing his Mom's driveway led to a worsening his back injury that shortened his career. I don't think he admitted it until later,or he would have had to pay back some salary. :)
 
I'll answer that with why I find him unlikable.

China is systematically enslaving an entire ethnic group in forced labor camps. When Daryl Morey tweeted support for Hong Kong protestors, LeBron took the side of china, publicly telling him to "educate himself" on matters before speaking out publicly.

The guy is an un-principled POS who is happy to support a country actively engaging in modern day slavery to protect his financial interests. Zero respect for anything coming out of his hypocritical mouth.
I mean, if you're going to dislike Lebron because you find him to be an unprincipled POS in relation to making money off of China, you must absolutely loathe Jordan. The difference between Jordan and Lebron on this note is that Jordan notably doesn't engage about politics and Lebron does tons of notable charity work.
 
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I mean, if you're going to dislike Lebron because you find him to be an unprincipled POS in relation to making money off of China, you must absolutely loathe Jordan. The difference between Jordan and Lebron on this note is that Jordan notably doesn't engage about politics and Lebron does tons of notable charity work.
Well, I don't own a single pair of Nike shoes. You can do the math.

Jordan has nothing to do, one way or the other, with my dislike of Lebron James. If you can't see that my issue is the hypocrisy as it relates to basic human rights, I'm not sure how much clearer I can make the point.
 
but his success has gone to his head and he now thinks he’s really smart.
I don't think that makes him all that unique. You just described a huge percentage of wildly successful people. The Venn Diagram for people who are massively successful at something and also embrace the virtue of knowing what you know is a preciously thin slice.

People who are successful at one thing very often think that they have some magical insight into a myriad of other things they know nothing about. Whether it is businessmen who think they have special insight into public policy, actors/athletes thinking people should listen to their opinions about international relations or politicians who think they know how to execute military strategy, we see this a lot in the political realm all the time (but it's true across lots of disciplines).

I'm sure that Lebron wishes that people would shut up about how they know just how to fix the Lakers as much as most people wish he would shut up about politics. 🤣
 
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Well, I don't own a single pair of Nike shoes. You can do the math.

Jordan has nothing to do, one way or the other, with my dislike of Lebron James. If you can't see that my issue is the hypocrisy as it relates to basic human rights, I'm not sure how much clearer I can make the point.
Just trying to gauge how much of a hypocrite you are about Jordan.
;)

If the cherry on the top for your Lebron dislike is that he's said and done some hypocritical things, cool. I'd humbly suggest that Lebron is a much better human being than Mike (and I'm not a Lebron fan at all), but your mileage may vary.
 
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I don't think that makes him all that unique. You just described a huge percentage of wildly successful people. The Venn Diagram for people who are massively successful at something and also embrace the virtue of knowing what you know is a preciously thin slice.

People who are successful at one thing very often think that they have some magical insight into a myriad of other things they know nothing about. Whether it is businessmen who think they have special insight into public policy, actors/athletes thinking people should listen to their opinions about international relations or politicians who think they know how to execute military strategy, we see this a lot in the political realm all the time (but it's true across lots of disciplines).

I'm sure that Lebron wishes that people would shut up about how they know just how to fix the Lakers as much as most people wish he would shut up about politics. 🤣
Agree with this. That’s why people prefer shut up and dribble.
 
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Just trying to gauge how much of a hypocrite you are about Jordan.
;)

If the cherry on the top for your Lebron dislike is that he's said and done some hypocritical things, cool. I'd humbly suggest that Lebron is a much better human being than Mike (and I'm not a Lebron fan at all), but your mileage may vary.
Sorry that came across so terse. I've been under the weather for the last couple of days and Mrs hooky is out town taking care of her dad. I'm too grouchy for my own good right now.

Can't even pour a bourbon to self medicate.
 
I don't think that makes him all that unique. You just described a huge percentage of wildly successful people. The Venn Diagram for people who are massively successful at something and also embrace the virtue of knowing what you know is a preciously thin slice.

People who are successful at one thing very often think that they have some magical insight into a myriad of other things they know nothing about. Whether it is businessmen who think they have special insight into public policy, actors/athletes thinking people should listen to their opinions about international relations or politicians who think they know how to execute military strategy, we see this a lot in the political realm all the time (but it's true across lots of disciplines).

I'm sure that Lebron wishes that people would shut up about how they know just how to fix the Lakers as much as most people wish he would shut up about politics. 🤣
Understood and agree. But his words are held in regard by his disciples and admirers and they were dangerously wrong about Hong Kong and against a hero cop. That matters. It might not to you, but it should.
 
Just trying to gauge how much of a hypocrite you are about Jordan.
;)

If the cherry on the top for your Lebron dislike is that he's said and done some hypocritical things, cool. I'd humbly suggest that Lebron is a much better human being than Mike (and I'm not a Lebron fan at all), but your mileage may vary.
Pretty sure Jordan’s are made in Vietnam. That’s what the tag in mine say.
 
Just trying to gauge how much of a hypocrite you are about Jordan.
;)

If the cherry on the top for your Lebron dislike is that he's said and done some hypocritical things, cool. I'd humbly suggest that Lebron is a much better human being than Mike (and I'm not a Lebron fan at all), but your mileage may vary.
Once Mike threatens a hero cop and tells a GM to “educate himself” then we can have a discussion.
 
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Sorry that came across so terse. I've been under the weather for the last couple of days and Mrs hooky is out town taking care of her dad. I'm too grouchy for my own good right now.

Can't even pour a bourbon to self medicate.
All good. No apology necessary at all. I knew what you meant. Hope you're feeling better and back to bourbon soon.
 
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Once Mike threatens a hero cop and tells a GM to “educate himself” then we can have a discussion.
Most of Mike's shortcomings were hidden from sight by not coming-of-age in the social media era, but that doesn't mean that they aren't there in abundance. I agree that Lebron got those two wrong. The VERY limited interaction I've had is a thoughtful and shockingly regular guy, but it'd be nice to have the conversation with him to see if he recognizes it or offers a thoughtful explanation for why there's more to it than we think.
 
Most of Mike's shortcomings were hidden from sight by not coming-of-age in the social media era, but that doesn't mean that they aren't there in abundance. I agree that Lebron got those two wrong. The VERY limited interaction I've had is a thoughtful and shockingly regular guy, but it'd be nice to have the conversation with him to see if he recognizes it or offers a thoughtful explanation for why there's more to it than we think.
Mike was also a notoriously private guy which is the approach I’d take if I got suddenly famous And rich. I don’t blame LeBron for basking in the lime light but he should not put his thumbprint on issues he doesn’t understand. He shouldn’t force a franchise to draft his obviously-not-ready son And he shouldn’t think of himself as a thought leader on anything other than ball or branding. But his ego will not allow that containment.

Is he a scumbag? I don’t think so. But I get pretty peeved at the deification people bestow on him when they haven’t even seen his social “justice” commentary.
 
Please tell me about the standards and levels of training and development of Jokic and Doncic, though.

This...Larry Bird would kill it in today's NBA. He could be a guy to average a triple double in this NBA era. Those two above have similar but lesser game and play in an era where defense isn't nearly as valued. Bird played in an ERA where guys beat the shit out of each other in the paint, literally threw down on the semi-regular and he still was top at his position. Some guys just have "it" and that "it" doesn't have to include athletic dominance. Jordan? Fuhgetaboutit...he would average 40 plus another combined 15 (+/- 5) boards/assists/blocks/steals.
 
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