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I have no idea who Greg Doyle is but I agree with the ugliness and lack of morals of the media.
without permission, I think even the Vecsey post above shares too much detail. I liked how Woody handled Coach Knights situation and just said he's in a tough time and asked for prayers for he and his family.I have no idea who Greg Doyle is but I agree with the ugliness and lack of morals of the media.
I think that may have been the event that convinced his father that he wasn’t a failure wasting his time playing bball. A Neil Young reference in post about Big George-class.Big Mac was in my class at IU...'73. I'm still upset I had to work at Arby's the night he scored 53 in the IN-KY basketball game. It was on radio in the back room with very fuzzy reception, just audible enough to know it was a special night. He's always been a good ambassador for both IU and the Pacers. Maybe the smoking finally caught up with him, the damage done.
i remember seeing a picture of him in the indy star in the locker room after a pacer game smoking a cigarette. he told a reporter he didn't lift weights because he might get too strong.Big Mac was in my class at IU...'73. I'm still upset I had to work at Arby's the night he scored 53 in the IN-KY basketball game. It was on radio in the back room with very fuzzy reception, just audible enough to know it was a special night. He's always been a good ambassador for both IU and the Pacers. Maybe the smoking finally caught up with him, the damage done.
George and other players would sometimes smoke at practice, too, while on the sideline. Can you imagine putting a lit cigarette down between running wind sprints? My buddy and I actually walked into their locker room after a game at the Coliseum and saw players smoking and drinking beer. They toted around a service cart filled with cold-cut sandwiches and longneck Blatz, made available to players, coaches and local reporters. It was common for them to then go to Neto’s Bar, along with Slick, who was a big drinker. Leonard and his wife lived in Carmel and could often be found saddled up to the bar at Ben’s Island, back in the day when it was a glorified farming community ready to explode. My high school classmate’s dad owned the place.i remember seeing a picture of him in the indy star in the locker room after a pacer game smoking a cigarette. he told a reporter he didn't lift weights because he might get too strong.
Ironically, there is Gregg Doyle trying to be the first to chastise others for trying to be first in reporting news of George’s grave condition. Welcome to social media, Gregg, where everyone craves the inside scoop.
He’s just mad he didn’t break it first. Him and DD make a great pair.I have no idea who Greg Doyle is but I agree with the ugliness and lack of morals of the media.
I heard stories of Pacer halftimes where the trainer would have multiple pre lit cigarettes between his fingers waiting for the players to get in the locker room.George and other players would sometimes smoke at practice, too, while on the sideline. Can you imagine putting a lit cigarette down between running wind sprints? My buddy and I actually walked into their locker room after a game at the Coliseum and saw players smoking and drinking beer. They toted around a service cart filled with cold-cut sandwiches and longneck Blatz, made available to players, coaches and local reporters. It was common for them to then go to Neto’s Bar, along with Slick, who was a big drinker. Leonard and his wife lived in Carmel and could often be found saddled up to the bar at Ben’s Island, back in the day when it was a glorified farming community ready to explode. My high school classmate’s dad owned the place.
Neto’s was in the Meadows development east of the fair grounds. Dave Robison joined the Pacers around 1975. Did Neto’s become Robo’s? I have vague memory of Robo’s becoming the go to place after games. Does anyone here remember this?George and other players would sometimes smoke at practice, too, while on the sideline. Can you imagine putting a lit cigarette down between running wind sprints? My buddy and I actually walked into their locker room after a game at the Coliseum and saw players smoking and drinking beer. They toted around a service cart filled with cold-cut sandwiches and longneck Blatz, made available to players, coaches and local reporters. It was common for them to then go to Neto’s Bar, along with Slick, who was a big drinker. Leonard and his wife lived in Carmel and could often be found saddled up to the bar at Ben’s Island, back in the day when it was a glorified farming community ready to explode. My high school classmate’s dad owned the place.
And I forgot to mention the trainer had already iced those Blatz beers cold, ready to go. In today's world, if one tried to enter the Pacer's locker room after a game, their night would be spent in shackles.I heard stories of Pacer halftimes where the trainer would have multiple pre lit cigarettes between his fingers waiting for the players to get in the locker room.
Neto's on the north side of 38th St. was a convenient haunt of the Pacers after a game. I used go to the 64-lane Meadow's Bowl and Marie's there had great pizza. I'm not sure about Robo's but it sounds vaguely familiar. When the late 70's came around, the whole area went downhill. They turned a large apartment complex there into one of the first government housing projects near there, attracting a seedier element of human nature. White flight ensued shortly thereafter and well, you know the rest of the story.Neto’s was in the Meadows development east of the fair grounds. Dave Robison joined the Pacers around 1975. Did Neto’s become Robo’s? I have vague memory of Robo’s becoming the go to place after games. Does anyone here remember this?
53 points and I think 30 rebounds. That's as dominant as can be.I'm still upset I had to work at Arby's the night he scored 53 in the IN-KY basketball game. It was on radio in the back room with very fuzzy reception, just audible enough to know it was a special night.
I recall that was after a couple players for the Kentucky all star team stating he was "overrated" or something lol. I recall him being at Menards in Evansville 12-13 years ago when they were opening the store going in there and meeting him. He had the hugest hands. If he had come back one more year, him, Downing and Joby Wright could have hung #3 then. I really believe so.53 points and I think 30 rebounds. That's as dominant as can be.
The game was played in Louisville. The IN All-stars won in Indy the week before, yet one of the KY players made the comment about McGinnis not being as good as he thought he was going to be, or wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about...something like that. George later said he took the comments personally. It wasn't long after that performance the term "man-child" was often used in description of George's talent.53 points and I think 30 rebounds. That's as dominant as can be.
Yes, Joe Voshkuhl of the Kentucky All-Stars made the remark to the press. McGinnis played so hard he tore up one of his shoes.The game was played in Louisville. The IN All-stars won in Indy the week before, yet one of the KY players made the comment about McGinnis not being as good as he thought he was going to be, or wasn't sure what all the hoopla was about...something like that. George later said he took the comments personally. It wasn't long after that performance the term "man-child" was often used in description of George's talent.
If George's dad hadn't died in a tragic high-rise construction accident the summer before his freshman year, I think George would have been around for both Knight's and AH's inaugural season. Today, it remains one of the frustrating "what-might-have-been's" in IU history. Likewise, what a shame it was McGinnis, Downey, et al. had to sit out their first season, playing intramural ball.
Have you heard the story of when they went through their cowboy phase?And I forgot to mention the trainer had already iced those Blatz beers cold, ready to go. In today's world, if one tried to enter the Pacer's locker room after a game, their night would be spent in shackles.
Roger Brown had 35Interesting that George wore 44 sometimes, 45 other times in high school, then 35 at IU, then 30 in the ABA and NBA. Must not have mattered much to him to stick to one number.
I had pictured Neto’s up on Allisonville Rd but could be wrongNeto’s was in the Meadows development east of the fair grounds. Dave Robison joined the Pacers around 1975. Did Neto’s become Robo’s? I have vague memory of Robo’s becoming the go to place after games. Does anyone here remember this?
The greatest iu player ever! Probably the most talented in any sport.Met George when my daughter was rehabbing her knee after ACL surgery at Dr Alfelds clinic . He had had shoulder surgery, and was rehabbing his shoulder . Being a big Hoosier fan I walked over and struck up a conversation. I Told him I was there with my daughter , and that she had injured her knee playing basketball . After his set he walked over and talked to my daughter, asked her about where she played , her team , and position she played . I had told her who he was , and she was really impressed that he took time to talk to us . He then went back and did some more rehab , but the best part was when he finished his next set he came back and talked to us some more . He encouraged my daughter to work hard on her rehab , so she could get better , and get back to the game . He is a great ambassador of the game , and how he took time to talk to me and encourage my daughter made me a lifetime fan .
What is he flip flopping about?Greg Doyle...First he's a everyday flip flopper on his views.
Now giving etiquette advice on X of all places....
Met George when my daughter was rehabbing her knee after ACL surgery at Dr Alfelds clinic . He had had shoulder surgery, and was rehabbing his shoulder . Being a big Hoosier fan I walked over and struck up a conversation. I Told him I was there with my daughter , and that she had injured her knee playing basketball . After his set he walked over and talked to my daughter, asked her about where she played , her team , and position she played . I had told her who he was , and she was really impressed that he took time to talk to us . He then went back and did some more rehab , but the best part was when he finished his next set he came back and talked to us some more . He encouraged my daughter to work hard on her rehab , so she could get better , and get back to the game . He is a great ambassador of the game , and how he took time to talk to me and encourage my da
Sounds like he is a great guy my 1st memories of him were from his ABA days, haven't seen anyone shoot a 1 handed jumper since. seems like towards the end of his career in the NBA he was labeled as someone with attitude problems, IS that correct or am I misremembering.ughter made me a lifetime
I like Doyle. Don’t always agree with him but read his stuff.What is he flip flopping about?
I don't recall that. He was involved with some sort of lawsuit against the league (like anti-collusion) so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he got labeled that way by the league.Sounds like he is a great guy my 1st memories of him were from his ABA days, haven't seen anyone shoot a 1 handed jumper since. seems like towards the end of his career in the NBA he was labeled as someone with attitude problems, IS that correct or am I misremembering.
Apparently he is really critical and it's basically a matter of time. Someone jumped the gun and misinterpreted that news.Some people are saying that he passed away yesterday. Not sure why there is so much ambiguity.
Now, after that story, I have to give up my 54-year resentment toward him for beating my hometown Marion Giants by 1 point in the state HS final four. I guess it's time.Met George when my daughter was rehabbing her knee after ACL surgery at Dr Alfelds clinic . He had had shoulder surgery, and was rehabbing his shoulder . Being a big Hoosier fan I walked over and struck up a conversation. I Told him I was there with my daughter , and that she had injured her knee playing basketball . After his set he walked over and talked to my daughter, asked her about where she played , her team , and position she played . I had told her who he was , and she was really impressed that he took time to talk to us . He then went back and did some more rehab , but the best part was when he finished his next set he came back and talked to us some more . He encouraged my daughter to work hard on her rehab , so she could get better , and get back to the game . He is a great ambassador of the game , and how he took time to talk to me and encourage my daughter made me a lifetime fan .
It was in the Meadows complex. I worked there one summer & one of my strongest memories was when Neto showed up in a Porsche 914, which was not designed for 6-9 people. It wasn’t quite a clown car exit, but close.I had pictured Neto’s up on Allisonville Rd but could be wrong
Doyle hates DD nowHe’s just mad he didn’t break it first. Him and DD make a great pair.