McCarthy Round 2
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/poli...-jordan-speaker-bid-votes-congress/index.html. Yup MTIOF this mess is all the Dems fault, don’t cha know?
reading his background now. awful. weasel. political stupid shit his whole career. only redeeming i see is that his dad started a lawn care company. lives in denver nc. that's not far from @DANC. we'll have to see if danc is willing to vouch for him long term or cut bait
Tlaib, Bush criticized by Democrats over statements calling for end to Israel support
Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Cori Bush (D-Mo.) are facing criticism from fellow Democrats over weekend statements in which they each labeled Israel as an apartheid state and called for the U.S…
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There should be MORE condemnation against her statements now and before by democrats, but for the record, it is not zero.
Tlaib, Bush criticized by Democrats over statements calling for end to Israel support
Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Cori Bush (D-Mo.) are facing criticism from fellow Democrats over weekend statements in which they each labeled Israel as an apartheid state and called for the U.S…
There should be MORE condemnation against her statements now and before by democrats, but for the record, it is not zero.
I saw she blamed Israel for the hospital after Israel released their proof and the US intel said they agreed. Did she say more things?
Clearly, there are people at the extremes who aren't the sharpest spoons in the drawer, and she'd be one imho.
Now Jordan just said he's still running for Speaker and plans to go back to the floor for another vote.
You know, with all the things Trump will do on “day one”, I can’t imagine he would need a full four year term. Hell he shouldn’t need more than a week or two in office to fix every problem we have.
1. GOP needs a Speaker
2. Jordan can’t get the votes
3. There are 8 appropriations bills to sort out
4. Some members are asking Bilirakis to enter race. Makes sense
2. Jordan can’t get the votes
3. There are 8 appropriations bills to sort out
4. Some members are asking Bilirakis to enter race. Makes sense
Next time someone on the left ask about a link we'll remind them that goat said to do your own homework.
I understand completely,,,, someone on the right asking for a link to support something. How's that different from someone on the left asking for a link to support something?
And give the Dimcraps the Presidency, Senate and House? That's what you'll settle for?
We've looked at houses in Denver. It's where the white folk go who don't want to live in Charlotte, if you know what I mean. Close to Lake Norman, which is a big draw.
Unfortunately, I'm in the Charlotte district and my Rep is Alma Adams. A nice lady who is a reliable Democrat vote.
North Carolina politicians are horrible - all of them, except for the Lt. Governor. Make Indiana's look respectable.
Not zero, but no great condemnation of her personally, either.Tlaib, Bush criticized by Democrats over statements calling for end to Israel support
Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Cori Bush (D-Mo.) are facing criticism from fellow Democrats over weekend statements in which they each labeled Israel as an apartheid state and called for the U.S…
There should be MORE condemnation against her statements now and before by democrats, but for the record, it is not zero.
I also provided numerous links from a number of sources that he dismissed out of hand.
Because they were all accusations, Mark. You claimed that's what he called himself. There was no link you posted where he claimed that.
At least be honest about it.
Budget and multiple bills need to get done…after Jordan theatrics, they will find a Speaker
I guess I'm not shocked you approve of Robinson, but I'm curious which one of his hateful, bigoted opinions you value most. His Homophobia, anti-Semitism,, self hatred applied to to other Blacks a la Candace Owens?
Do you agree with his claim that the Rothschilds are the Four Horsemen, international bankers who control not only every central bank, but also are working in conjunction with the CIA, China, and Islam to bring down Donald Trump? You probably haven't seen that video in which he appeared with the Moonies in 2019, because it was so wacky and QAnonish that he was forced to take it down.
Or his condemnation of the Black Panther movie as a Jewish plot where an agnostic Jew created a movie in conjunction with a "satanic Marxist" to get rich off of stupid Black People? He doesn't just hate trans people, he attacks everyone within the LGBTQ community as living in filth. Which is fine for his opinion, but it sort of refutes the claim frequently made on here that the GOP is not anti-LGBTQ...
Anyway since you implied he's the only NC pol who isn't horrible, when a lot of people would have the complete opposite view and consider him one of the worst Pub politicians around, I was just curious why you like him?
Myron B. Pitts: LGBTQ, ‘filth,’ Black people owe for slavery among NC Lt. Gov. attacks
Myron B. Pitts: Mark Robinson's repulsive comments on LGBTQ, Jewish people and his own race are part of his record as he launches his bid for governor.
www.fayobserver.com
Is this about Scalise? There weren't any news sources at the Racist meeting he spoke at, he wasn't talking to the Press. Our only account of what went on comes from the various Neo-Nazi types who attended and composed articles on sites like Stormfront admiring his speech and the way they viewed him as "one of them"
So did Scalise actually tell them to vote for him because he was "Duke without the baggage", or is that just the way they characterized their approval of what he had to say? I personally think that it was a phrase he used to express solidarity with their "concerns", esp since it was Duke followers and he was an invited special guest.
Unlike other examples of Pub politicians cozying up to Neo-Nazis like when Fuentes actually introduced MTG at one of his gatherings, Duke was not actually there in person. They had him on simulcast, and in a way Scalise was a place holder. But he knew exactly who these folks were and who had invited him to come and speak.
So ultimately the question is not whether he said it, or whether they just inferred it and used that characterization in subsequent accounts. Later when Duke went to jail, the "influencers" of that time (2006) promotedl Scalise in the Neo-Nazi media (like Stormfront) as their replacement candidate of choice for their Neo-Nazi brethren.
So the correct question to ask is why did a State Rep in LA in 2002 or 2003 choose to attend a gathering of Neo-Nazis and followers of David Duke? There is a palpable undercurrent of racism in LA politics, and at that point in time Duke was a popular figure in that element of the Right wing of the LA GOP. So while many of us would view the term of "David Duke without the baggage" with horror, that was not a phrase that was likely to hurt him among the constituency he was attempting to reach.
Jim Jordan is finally out of Speaker race. He held a secret ballot after the 3rd failed vote today, and 112 House Republicans voted they don't want him as Speaker. Back to Square 1 for finding a candidate that can get nearly all Republican backing. Does that person even exist?
Many of the members are of the "no compromise, even" belief. That makes it hard to get to 217 with just 4 votes to spare. There was a time when moderates in both parties could work together, but we've killed that off. Everyone has to know the longer the Israeli aid package sits, the worse it is going to be. In addition, they had time to get the various budgets passed before the deadline, which is starting to look tougher so another CR. And this CR is totally a self-inflicted wound for the people who want budgets with no CRs.
I really don't get it, they had a chance at a 1% cut CR and turned it down which has led to all this. What on earth were they thinking? They are in a "home run or strikeout" cycle. But in Boehner's book he said many of these Reps didn't want to govern, they only wanted to say no. So they said no to the 1% CR.
I knew since election night that it was going to be a shitshow with only 5 vote margin. The obstinate ones have always been there, but they didn't matter as much when you have a slightly larger majority. There are some in there that just want to grind things to gridlock, not really interested in practicalities of the situation. And they are getting a lot of attention, now.
I looked at a few of those and they don’t quite say what you guys were claiming, but that’s par for the course here,
Read five of those articles linked earlier and none says what you claim happened. Not one said he used that phrase in a speech to a racist organization. A journalist says he said it to him, but that it didn’t mean he shared Duke’s racist views (the baggage), but did have some of the same conservative policy views. Even that he spoke to the Racist group is in dispute.
Link where you got your version of this story.
In your rush to judge others as racist, you might want to check yourself.I guess I'm not shocked you approve of Robinson, but I'm curious which one of his hateful, bigoted opinions you value most. His Homophobia, anti-Semitism,, self hatred applied to to other Blacks a la Candace Owens?
Do you agree with his claim that the Rothschilds are the Four Horsemen, international bankers who control not only every central bank, but also are working in conjunction with the CIA, China, and Islam to bring down Donald Trump? You probably haven't seen that video in which he appeared with the Moonies in 2019, because it was so wacky and QAnonish that he was forced to take it down.
Or his condemnation of the Black Panther movie as a Jewish plot where an agnostic Jew created a movie in conjunction with a "satanic Marxist" to get rich off of stupid Black People? He doesn't just hate trans people, he attacks everyone within the LGBTQ community as living in filth. Which is fine for his opinion, but it sort of refutes the claim frequently made on here that the GOP is not anti-LGBTQ...
Anyway since you implied he's the only NC pol who isn't horrible, when a lot of people would have the complete opposite view and consider him one of the worst Pub politicians around, I was just curious why you like him?
Myron B. Pitts: LGBTQ, ‘filth,’ Black people owe for slavery among NC Lt. Gov. attacks
Myron B. Pitts: Mark Robinson's repulsive comments on LGBTQ, Jewish people and his own race are part of his record as he launches his bid for governor.www.fayobserver.com
Using the term "Blacks" instead of "black people" or "Black people" is frowned upon. You sound like Trump. Black is an adjective. Using it as a noun is dehumanizing.
Also, it's very privileged and entitled for a white man to be calling out black people for "self-hatred applied to" black people. You don't get to be the arbiter of Uncle Tom status.
Now, I'm going to assume you didn't know these things or weren't thinking about them and intentionally trying to be racist. It'd be nice if you could use the same principle of generosity in interpreting other politicians and posters.
For example, Robinson's quote about black people "owing" had nothing to do with them owing for slavery, he was talking about a debt owed to ancestors who had lived through the worst but came out of it and tried to make a better life for their descendents. His rhetorical point was intentionally and obtusely misread by the critic you cite. Seems Robinson is trying to switch the narrative from victimhood to gratitude.
Not one of the ones I read said definitively that he said it, they say he allegedly said it. The source of it appears to be one journalist who said he said it, but that it meant Scalise shared some of the same conservative policy positions and not Duke’s racism, which is obviously the baggage.
This place could use an honesty enema.
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