what that would put our net ranking at, I realize there are a lot of moving parts and what other teams do over that stretch will also factor in. but for some of you who understand the NET rankings {I don't} could that possibly get us into the 40s, or would it basically keep us mid 50s
lose to Oregon and win the rest does anyone have any idea
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surprised yesterday's game only moved us +3 in NET.
winning at OR would be a huge Q1 win. Not sure about the others, but OSU is still pretty high in the NET so assuming that is a Q1 game for us even at home?
Losing to PSU or Wash would. be a crushing blow to our chances.
winning at OR would be a huge Q1 win. Not sure about the others, but OSU is still pretty high in the NET so assuming that is a Q1 game for us even at home?
Losing to PSU or Wash would. be a crushing blow to our chances.
It's like I told my kids in school, it's really hard to change your GPA in your senior year. Also hard to change your NET in late February.
Palm now has us as an 11th seed, one of the first four in.
Lundardi has us next 4 out, but I think that was Saturday, before yesterday's game.
Lundardi has us next 4 out, but I think that was Saturday, before yesterday's game.
Just a guess...there are so many moving parts that are impossible to predict...
Current NET 56
Penn State...win...Net stays in the Mid 50's...probably 55.
Washington...win...Net moves a little because its a road win, not much though because they're ranked low...52.
Oregon...loss...net won't move much because of it being a Quad 1 road loss... 53.
OSU...win...net won't move a ton unless they're solidly a quad 1 level team...51-52 ish...
I'd say its unlikely our NET gets in to the 40s, unless we win out.
Current NET 56
Penn State...win...Net stays in the Mid 50's...probably 55.
Washington...win...Net moves a little because its a road win, not much though because they're ranked low...52.
Oregon...loss...net won't move much because of it being a Quad 1 road loss... 53.
OSU...win...net won't move a ton unless they're solidly a quad 1 level team...51-52 ish...
I'd say its unlikely our NET gets in to the 40s, unless we win out.
so, in reality winning at Oregon is the only thing that can help us, dropping one of the other games could really hurt.
OSU win will help some but not as much as the negative impact of a loss.
But yeah, the OR game is our best chance to gain ground, at least until the B1G tourney.
AMS66 is correct...we're trying desperately to improve our grade late in the semester after flunking several exams.
another question, is Reneau's injury a consideration for the committee?
Since all games are constantly being changed, up or down...it must be a reflection of entire season.
Depends on how you look at it. Losing to PSU and/or Washington would cause us to drop...maybe a fair bit.
But at this point, its pretty difficult to actually gain on the other teams ranked similarly to us.
The part that is frustrating, is our NET can move up and down without us playing a game. Generally, the wins and losses the opponents on our record incur, largely offset each other. But if we had a schedule dynamic that might lead to 2-3 key opponents winning a few games in a row, or losing a few games in a row, and moving up or down a Quad level because of that...it could move us more than a spot or two.
In the end...
win all 4 remaining games, we'll be in safely, even if we lose first game of BTT.
Lots of combinations of 3 wins that might get us on the right side of the bubble, but we'd need a win or two in the BTT, I suspect.
No combinations of 2 wins that get us at large consideration, even if we make a run to BTT title game.
All my opinion, obviously.
I don't think that's true, if you mean total wins. 2 more regular season wins, then 2 BTT wins gets us to 20...but almost assuredly would NOT get us in the tournament.
20 regular season wins? You're right for sure.
yeah 20 regular 'should' do it. that means we end on a 5 game streak with maybe 2 more Q1 wins and 'hopefully' go into the B1G tourney in the NET upper 40s and a .500 conf record. That usually means a ticket punched.
I can't think of a situation where that wouldn't do it. Maybe if we got drilled in the BTT by 30 or something?
Indiana has 2-3 good wins. For comparison, Oklahoma has better wins than IU and they are 13th in the SEC.
Indiana would need 'help', even at 10-10.
It will depend on how many upsets in conference tournaments. Most guys doing the bracket stuff right now have IU first four out.
I'm reverting to my old ways here. Any aspirations this team has about dancing in March starts with a win against Penn State at home to close out February. If these guys follow up the Purdue win by coughing up a hairball against the Mountain Kitties then their margin for error is down to nearly zero. Defend the Hall Wednesday and we can go from there.
Full season with no weighting for current performance. You won or lost at start of season the same as winning or losing at the end of the season and still at 56 after yesterday's games. There are nine conference teams above us at this time with Nebraska slightly above us of the nine.
The number of automatic bids that are below us in the rankings (all but one are the tourney champions) impacts how many at large bids will be available for teams above us that are not auto qualifiers. I still say very unlikely but not impossible. If it did come down to us or Nebraska-yikes-the head to head in their favor.
At the same time IU will sell tourney tickets so the committee could say-screw fairness and let’s go with IU ticket sales.
The cement overshoes we fitted ourselves with earlier in the season weigh us down from getting closer to the surface. I don’t think they would put 10 Big10 teams in for another season of embarrassing tourney performances but not impossible. Heck, it’s possible we could win the tourney and be an auto qualifier.
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BUBBA CUNNINGHAM (2025) – North Carolina Athletic Director (Chairperson)
MARK COYLE (2026) – Minnesota Athletic Director
GREG BYRNE (2026) – Alabama Athletic Director
KEITH GILL (2026) – Sun Belt Commissioner (Vice-Chairperson)
LEE REED (2026) – Georgetown Athletic Director
MARTIN NEWTON (2027) – Samford Athletic Director
TOM WISTRCILL (2027) – Big Sky Commissioner
ARTHUR JOHNSON (2028) – Temple Athletic Director
IRMA GARCIA (2029) – Manhattan Athletic Director
STU JACKSON (2029) – West Coast Conference Commissioner
ZACK LASSITER (2029) – Abilene Christian Athletic Director
CHAD WEIBERG (2029) – Oklahoma State Athletic Director
BUBBA CUNNINGHAM (2025) – North Carolina Athletic Director (Chairperson)
MARK COYLE (2026) – Minnesota Athletic Director
GREG BYRNE (2026) – Alabama Athletic Director
KEITH GILL (2026) – Sun Belt Commissioner (Vice-Chairperson)
LEE REED (2026) – Georgetown Athletic Director
MARTIN NEWTON (2027) – Samford Athletic Director
TOM WISTRCILL (2027) – Big Sky Commissioner
ARTHUR JOHNSON (2028) – Temple Athletic Director
IRMA GARCIA (2029) – Manhattan Athletic Director
STU JACKSON (2029) – West Coast Conference Commissioner
ZACK LASSITER (2029) – Abilene Christian Athletic Director
CHAD WEIBERG (2029) – Oklahoma State Athletic Director
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