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Look for X to be dismissed.0

Please tell me, where in the law you have to do that.

It's not in there, so again, he did nothing wrong.

Now your bias is showing.
Well, he likely did nothing illegal since he didn’t mislead or lie to the cop. His friend and teammate put him in a lousy position, though.
 
If TJD is coming back I predict X will not be dismissed. If TDJ and Race are not coming back he will be dismissed as next year would be rough anyway so Woodson will probably just start over. That is my prediction.
in defense of X....how this situation is handled should have nothing to do with other players' decisions. I understand the logic you're trying to present, but that seems to be rather unfair and not the proper way for CMW to enforce discipline. X's fate should not be in TJD's hands right now.
SOrry just my 2 cents.
 
If in fact he was arrested for doing 90 in a 50 MPH zone, there wouldn't have been any pedestrians. Most of you claim to have been in Btown, tell me where on Walnut there would be pedestrians and a 50 MPH speed limit?
 
Consider the message to the team if he is not removed from the roster. Given the suspension in Chicago...Woodson would owe the team an apology if he is kept on it. Gotta go, period. A "leader on the team" cannot run from the cops and resist arrest.
And this is where Woody earns the big bucks. This situation is far from a dismissible offense...except it is his second.

Had someone asked "who is most likely to get arrested off season"? most of us would have responded "X".

The felony charge will likely be dropped (unless there is more we have not learned) as it would be for almost everyone. The fact remains that X once again let his teammates and coaches down and he is supposed to be a Sr leader.

Can he convince Woody that he will stay out of trouble? CAN he stay out of trouble? Can he do whatever punishment/personal development that Woody prescribes IF he is able to make his case? Will his team mates respect him?

I can see both sides of this. Tough call.
 
If in fact he was arrested for doing 90 in a 50 MPH zone, there wouldn't have been any pedestrians. Most of you claim to have been in Btown, tell me where on Walnut there would be pedestrians and a 50 MPH speed limit?
Where is Walnut 50 mph, except north of the bypass?
 
And this is where Woody earns the big bucks. This situation is far from a dismissible offense...except it is his second.

Had someone asked "who is most likely to get arrested off season"? most of us would have responded "X".

The felony charge will likely be dropped (unless there is more we have not learned) as it would be for almost everyone. The fact remains that X once again let his teammates and coaches down and he is supposed to be a Sr leader.

Can he convince Woody that he will stay out of trouble? CAN he stay out of trouble? Can he do whatever punishment/personal development that Woody prescribes IF he is able to make his case? Will his team mates respect him?

I can see both sides of this. Tough call.
Well said all around. Now just time to wait and see what Woodson decides.
 
Well, he likely did nothing illegal since he didn’t mislead or lie to the cop. His friend and teammate put him in a lousy position, though.

It's like likely... he did nothing illegal. He wasn't arrested.

Don't let facts get in the way though.
 
60 day time out is over just in time for a full trashing of all things IU. His last 60 days on GBI have been a glorious meltdown.
misery doesn't always love company. I've had some reasonable hoops discussions with a few folks on GBI, but I know better than to get near that site after the annual CMP tourney flop. Just let them eat their own, like we do over here.
 
in defense of X....how this situation is handled should have nothing to do with other players' decisions. I understand the logic you're trying to present, but that seems to be rather unfair and not the proper way for CMW to enforce discipline. X's fate should not be in TJD's hands right now.
SOrry just my 2 cents.
I get that but Woodson is going to have a big big decison to make. Whether or not it should have anything to do with TJD is up to him but ther is not doubt if this team is mostly guttet or we lose our top three players once again incredibly patience is probably going to be needed with this program. Be tough to see us being very good next year without X, TJD, and Race imo.
 
It's like likely... he did nothing illegal. He wasn't arrested.

Don't let facts get in the way though.
As far as we know, he did nothing illegal. He didn’t lie, nor did he tell the truth. His friend and teammate didn’t treat him like a friend or teammate. Hope that clarifies the point for you.
 
misery doesn't always love company. I've had some reasonable hoops discussions with a few folks on GBI, but I know better than to get near that site after the annual CMP tourney flop. Just let them eat their own, like we do over here.
His Kern County posts are solid gold bitterness. If he goes back to stalking me or gets in my way, I will link some.
 
Only an idiot who makes stupid predictions thinks that making a stupid prediction is better than remaining quiet.

I'm on vacation this week, waiting for my tee time to get here.
Who tees off in the afternoon? We are on 17 already.
 
Only an idiot who makes stupid predictions thinks that making a stupid prediction is better than remaining quiet.

I'm on vacation this week, waiting for my tee time to get here.
I am next week in the Carolina’s. Can’t wait to break out the clubs. Don’t hit it in the drink!
 
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Consider the message to the team if he is not removed from the roster. Given the suspension in Chicago...Woodson would owe the team an apology if he is kept on it. Gotta go, period. A "leader on the team" cannot run from the cops and resist arrest.
I guess if you're Woodson, you're also considering how X will impact incoming players like JHS, Gunn and Banks. You would hope your senior leaders are going to act in ways that will positively impact the culture of the program for the younger guys. I would think that's a concern for CWM as he's trying to build up the program.

Obviously none of us have any idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I'm guessing that if Woodson really sat those players for the NW game just for breaking curfew, he's trying to build a certain culture within the program. You wonder how much more nonsense he's going to accept from X?
 
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in defense of X....how this situation is handled should have nothing to do with other players' decisions. I understand the logic you're trying to present, but that seems to be rather unfair and not the proper way for CMW to enforce discipline. X's fate should not be in TJD's hands right now.
SOrry just my 2 cents.
I think it all comes down to brand value and that is impacted by who is coming back as well as who we can get from the portal. If we think we can land a transfer portal player with equal/better talent, I'd say be done with X and his inability to make 101 leadership decisions. He's going to be 23. We lost to ~30 to St. Marys. Move forward.
 
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I guess if you're Woodson, you're also considering how X will impact incoming players like JHS, Gunn and Banks. You would hope your senior leaders are going to act in ways that will positively impact the culture of the program for the younger guys. I would think that's a concern for CWM as he's trying to build up the program.

Obviously none of us have any idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I'm guessing that if Woodson really sat those players for the NW game just for breaking curfew, he's trying to build a certain culture within the program. You wonder how much more nonsense he's going to accept from X?
We will soon find out I guess and I hope really soon. If we need another portal player we will need to get on that soon.
 
No, it was a serious question. You obviously are not golfing right now, and odds are you are on the internet gaming.
Just got to the 18th at Hawk’s Landing.

btw, when I play video games it’s on PC 😉
 
Consider the message to the team if he is not removed from the roster. Given the suspension in Chicago...Woodson would owe the team an apology if he is kept on it. Gotta go, period. A "leader on the team" cannot run from the cops and resist arrest.
Woodson owes the team an apology. How so? If the incident in Chicago was as minor as it appeared, and yes I know it cost us the game, but I don’t think the team will not respect Woody if he doesn’t kick X off. Woodson knows the kid and they dynamics of the team. We don’t. I’ll respect whatever decision is made.
 
I think it all comes down to brand value and that is impacted by who is coming back as well as who we can get from the portal. If we think we can land a transfer portal player with equal/better talent, I'd say be done with X and his inability to make 101 leadership decisions. He's going to be 23. We lost to ~30 to St. Marys. Move forward.
Just heard Charlie Miller on the radio. Basically said if you bring him back you will likely have a divide on the team. Also, he would basically have to be on a zero tolerance policy and we all know how those usually turn out. I would have to say he is likely going to get booted.
 
Woodson owes the team an apology. How so? If the incident in Chicago was as minor as it appeared, and yes I know it cost us the game, but I don’t think the team will not respect Woody if he doesn’t kick X off. Woodson knows the kid and they dynamics of the team. We don’t. I’ll respect whatever decision is made.
If the punishment for “simply missing curfew” is a 1 game suspension, what is the equivalent punishment for reckless driving, and resisting law enforcement (a felony)?
 
I would hope Woodson will help him understand that, aside from placing himself, his passengers, and anyone on or near the roadway in obvious danger, he also created a scenario that could’ve gone from bad to worse in a hurry.

Drive in the wee hours through a business / downtown district at an excessive rate of speed. Fail to immediately adhere to law enforcement‘s command to stop the vehicle. Evade the police, even for an instant, running a stop sign. Exit the vehicle in a hurried fashion when you do stop.

That’s an excellent way to have a weapon drawn on you, especially if you’re perceived, in any way, of turning toward LE in a manner that could be seen as aggressive or threatening. Ask any cop and they’ll tell you situations like this can become explosive in an instant. X has an issue with maturity that’s going to bite him hard one day. Losing his spot on the team might be the least of his worries if he doesn’t get his act together soon.
Yep! Was rumered thru Pitt he had locker room issues. Just the idea he is putting himself in this position is rediculous. Hate to lose like everyone but he will be cut loose.
 
Yep! Was rumered thru Pitt he had locker room issues. Just the idea he is putting himself in this position is rediculous. Hate to lose like everyone but he will be cut loose.
A lousy friend and teammate puts people in situations where you get quizzed by a cop or, worse, asks someone else to take the rap for him. The other two were lucky they weren’t kissing the pavement with guns drawn as a result of what XJ did. He put them both in horrible spots, all so he could save himself. That’s not what good friends and teammates do. If he stays, Woody should punish the entire team (the six or so guys left, anyway) for his actions. Wonder how that would be received?
 
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A lousy friend and teammate puts people in situations where you get quizzed by a cop or, worse, asks someone else to take the rap for him. The other two were lucky they weren’t kissing the pavement with guns drawn as a result of what XJ did. He put them both in horrible spots, all so he could save himself. That’s not what good friends and teammates do. If he stays, Woody should punish the entire team (the six or so guys left, anyway) for his actions. Wonder how that would be received?
He endangered LE as well with the high speed chase...not to mention anyone on the road. Felony arrests are no small matter. We talk about whether or not he is removed from the team...but, what about the student code of conduct at the university? Hasn't he violated that with an arrest, to an extent which would face expulsion?
 
He endangered LE as well with the high speed chase...not to mention anyone on the road. Felony arrests are no small matter. We talk about whether or not he is removed from the team...but, what about the student code of conduct at the university? Hasn't he violated that with an arrest, to an extent which would face expulsion?
It could’ve easily been a catastrophe for any other driver, passenger, pedestrian, police officer or him. No idea whether this violates any student code of conduct but, for a program that came perilously close to experiencing the death of a student-athlete due to the irresponsible operation of a motor vehicle, you have to wonder how Woody and Dolson will choose to deal with this matter.
 
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