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Let’s Get The Facts out There On Trump’s Russia/Putin Obsession

12 Counties in Wisconsin are seeking to decertify the fraudulent federal election.

Robin Vos is looking at prison time in his not too distant future..

That will be all it will take....one domino..

Dominion has been revealed as accessory to organized, RICO-level felonies in numerous States.

Reckoning is coming.

Have you and Lindell decided on the reinstatement date yet?
 
12 Counties in Wisconsin are seeking to decertify the fraudulent federal election.

Robin Vos is looking at prison time in his not too distant future..

That will be all it will take....one domino..

Dominion has been revealed as accessory to organized, RICO-level felonies in numerous States.

Reckoning is coming.

Are you referring to Robert Johnson?
"Robin Vos is looking at prison time in his not too distant future.."

I think somehow your conspiracy theory/ talking points circuits got short circuited. Vos is the moronic Trumper Assembly Speaker who insisted on using taxpayer funds to soothe Trump's ego with the phony "investigation". He's the one who hired Gableman to run this shit show in the first place...

But I agree, he should be in jail...
 
Yada, yada...

The OP was about President Trump's being only about himself, politically and financially.

The Ag econ question I raised asked to contrast input costs for the '22 growing season, following two years of Biden/Harris bumbling, with the input costs for the '20 season, following 4 years of Trump policies to include fuel, fertilizer, etc..

Your answer talked about the subsidies from taxpayers, policies from decades ago,
and sundry.....

Are you paying 100% more for farm diesel, lp gas, and lubricants than two years ago?
Subsidies from decades ago, how about last year?


EWG’s analysis of records from the Department of Agriculture finds that subsidy payments to farmers ballooned from just over $4 billion in 2017 to more than $20 billion in 2020 – driven largely by ad hoc programs meant to offset the effects of President Trump’s failed trade war.

Not only did the amount of subsidies skyrocket, but the richest farms also increased their share: In 2016, about 17 percent of total subsidies went to the top 1 percent of farms and about 60 percent to the top 10th. In 2019, the richest 1 percent received almost one-fourth of the total, and the top 10th received almost two-thirds.1

The staggering growth of subsidies and the worsening inequity in distribution underscore the urgency for the Biden administration and the new Congress to enact commonsense farm subsidy reforms that will benefit small, struggling farmers and the environment and make up for the mistakes of the Trump years.

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Are the input prices higher this year? Yes, I thought I answered that earlier for you but instead of getting $3.00/bushel for corn at harvest it looks like it will be about $6.00 or greater this year. I contracted some corn for Fall delivery at $6.11/bushel and expect it to go higher.

The cost of inputs is always a factor but unless you are doing something really wrong any grain farmer should have a record harvest this year. BTW, do you think there may be a correlation between better grain prices and higher land values? A farm sold recently for $20,000/acre and no it wasn't for development but strictly for grain production.

Most decent farmland in central Indiana probably would sell for at least 12k/acre. Farmland was trending down even with the absurdly low interest rates a year ago-I wish I would have bought some more then.

No offense but you don't sound like someone that knows much about farming.
 
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"and is the rightful president."
and now 60% of the country is feeling that the election was stolen... so maybe the cult has a valid point.

Or let me rephrase that word Stolen.... maybe not stolen.... but I'll say it like Biden was elected unfairly and a lot of Election Laws in states were broken during the elections.
Link?
 
I really don't give a shit. Like ALOT. Like suck off mazie hirono and her shit ass attitude.
Not impressive. If you continue to use “alot” it will solidify my impression that you choose to be willfully ignorant.

How is Mazie Hirono relevant here?
 
I have noticed a lot of hard core liberals struggle with spelling and basic English as well.
Do you think I’d hesitate to point that out?

I’m happy you used “a lot” instead of “alot,” it seems you have a higher IQ.
 
Well I am Thankful that you are doing great. (That’s a serious comment… I am).

As for my family and I…. We are doing fine. It is costing us more for gas and our energy bills have skyrocketed, but we do all that we can do to help reduce those costs.
We are blessed to be able to pay our bills, but we’ve also cut back on things that bring more enjoyment to our lives.
But that’s the season we are living in at the moment. Hopefully in the future, the seasons will change and allow for that enjoyment to return.
So the extra $30 per months (and I’m being VERY generous) really hurts your family’s budget?

You may need to start thinking about your career path.
 
I know that you may disagree....but it is my belief... that the Covid-19 Virus is a bio-weapon that was produced in the WuHan lab, and funded by USA taxpayer dollars, that Anthony Fauci diverted through 3rd party paths to pay for the Gain of Function research.

Now.... I won't go as far as saying that the Planned Part had anything to do with the election.... but I will say that the planned part of it was to help the Big Pharma and Politcians that had investments in Big Pharma., to have a financial gain in all of this. (this can be backed up by all the patents that Fauci has his name on, dealing with the Sars-Covid-2)
Ok thanks. I’ll be nice and say merely, yes, I disagree.
 
Zeke..... the evidence is there and more and more of it is being exposed all the time.

Sadly......we're never going to agree on any of this topic, when the investigations are done my the very same people that stole the election. Of course their investigations are going to deny the elections were stolen, because they have to cover up their wrong doing.
Um. You do realize that Trump appointed judges, Trump’s attorney general, Trump appointed commissions ALL came up with zero evidence. ZERO. It’s just truly baffling and frightening what people can convince themselves is true these days. I’m just going to tell myself that IU won that game last night. The mainstream media s lying about it and if we don’t make the tourney I’m getting my cronies and raiding NCAA headquarters! Who is with me???
 
Why at the end of the day farmers will make a lot more money this year. I realize running the machinery, fertilizer, herbicide will cost more but the return will be so much higher with the caveat that need good weather but that's why you buy crop insurance if you do have a bad weather. BTW, 2 years ago farmers were getting by because we got all kinds of welfare money from the government, it probably was the biggest welfare program in the history of this country, if they didn't get that many would have gone broke. I think it was wrongfully administered as there was no cap on how much you or a corporate farm could receive. Farm subsidies were originally set-up during the 1930's to keep people from losing there small individual 40 and 80 acres farms not the massive 50,000-acre operations we see in some cases today.
And remember when Trump set the tariffs and then ended up having to pay the farmers? That’s a smooth move. We own farms also and this was our best year, by far.
 
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Do you guys really believe this shit you post day after day after day? Huge ego yes, he lost wealth being President and took no pay. Biden has made his entire fortune out of being a low grade politician 47-48 years of it! How did he get so much money then? Pelosi lets look at her wealth. People like you are so immersed in hatred of a personality that facts escape you. I'm not some huge fan of Trump's personality but it's amazing how it could get so bad in just over a yr under your guy.
He lost wealth. Do you live under a rock?
 
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Subsidies from decades ago, how about last year?


EWG’s analysis of records from the Department of Agriculture finds that subsidy payments to farmers ballooned from just over $4 billion in 2017 to more than $20 billion in 2020 – driven largely by ad hoc programs meant to offset the effects of President Trump’s failed trade war.

Not only did the amount of subsidies skyrocket, but the richest farms also increased their share: In 2016, about 17 percent of total subsidies went to the top 1 percent of farms and about 60 percent to the top 10th. In 2019, the richest 1 percent received almost one-fourth of the total, and the top 10th received almost two-thirds.1

The staggering growth of subsidies and the worsening inequity in distribution underscore the urgency for the Biden administration and the new Congress to enact commonsense farm subsidy reforms that will benefit small, struggling farmers and the environment and make up for the mistakes of the Trump years.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Are the input prices higher this year? Yes, I thought I answered that earlier for you but instead of getting $3.00/bushel for corn at harvest it looks like it will be about $6.00 or greater this year. I contracted some corn for Fall delivery at $6.11/bushel and expect it to go higher.

The cost of inputs is always a factor but unless you are doing something really wrong any grain farmer should have a record harvest this year. BTW, do you think there may be a correlation between better grain prices and higher land values? A farm sold recently for $20,000/acre and no it wasn't for development but strictly for grain production.

Most decent farmland in central Indiana probably would sell for at least 12k/acre. Farmland was trending down even with the absurdly low interest rates a year ago-I wish I would have bought some more then.

No offense but you don't sound like someone that knows much about farming.
Where is your farmland? Ours is Grant County.
 
I have noticed a lot of hard core liberals struggle with spelling and basic English as well.
Generally not in the midst of calling someone else dumb but keep going with false equivalents
 
Point is it's one guys opinion and I really don't care. I've heard a ton of opinions. Look you all can "think" what you want. I was leary of Pence as soon as I found out about he was in bed with Birx and Pepfar, another money laundering device. So was Trump and Pence knew Trump was aware! Judas coin followed by PELOSI elbow bump? Coup complete.
 
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So the extra $30 per months (and I’m being VERY generous) really hurts your family’s budget?

You may need to start thinking about your career path.
Utility cost alone has gone up $60 per month, gasoline at 3.49/gal compared to 2.15. Groceries have gone up as well.

Like I said…. We’re able to handle it at the moment. But there are others out there that can’t.
As far as my career path… I am retired and on a fixed income.
I worked for 50+ years of my life to be able to retire. I feel that I shouldn’t have to be a greeter at Walmart for the rest of my living days, just because the stupid people in our Government (and thats all of them… both D&R) can’t run our country.
 
Where is your farmland? Ours is Grant County.
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EWG….. an environmentalist Group like the tree huggers and all the others.
I guess their views, opinions and facts aren’t going to be skewed???
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EWG….. an environmentalist Group like the tree huggers and all the others.
I guess their views, opinions and facts aren’t going to be skewed???
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Uh what are you talking about? Did you respond to wrong person?
 
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EWG….. an environmentalist Group like the tree huggers and all the others.
I guess their views, opinions and facts aren’t going to be skewed???
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You can do your own search but it's a fact farm subsidies were at an all-time high under Trump as his trade war with China had the unfortunate consequence of ruining the agricultural sector since China was our biggest market.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/trump-farmers-subsidies.html

WASHINGTON — For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.
Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.
The breadth of the payments means that government support will account for about 40 percent of total farm income this year. If not for those subsidies, U.S. farm income would be poised to decline in 2020.
 
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You claimed he lost wealth because he was POTUS. I showed you that is false. And in addition to those "foreign business interests" which you claim he would have enjoyed anyway, there is also the millions he made by charging organizations which he ultimately profited from (like Committee to elect Donald J Trump, for example).

Entities connected to either the GOP in General or Trump in particular have spent over $20,000,000 on services provided by Trump Org Properties/Businesses. By itself the Committee to Elect Donald J Trump has spent over $16,000,000 at properties owned by Donald J Trump. Not sure of the correct technical term, but circular financing comes to mind...

https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/trump-properties

You do understand that they are using money raised to elect Trump, some of which eventually ends up in Trump's pocket at businesses owned by Trump? Eventually all of the proceeds spent at Trump Org properties go back into Trump's pocket.
Another in a long list of flat out lies.

'Eventually all of the proceeds spent at Trump Org properties go back into Trump's pocket'..

Less salaries, wages and other contributions to employees, retirement, health care premiums, etc.

Less property and other taxes.

Less insurance and indemnity costs.

Less property maintenance, upkeep and replacement cost.

Less foodservice and alcohol inventory costs.

Advertising and Marketing..

Security costs are very high.

*FACTS MATTER**
 
He also made it clear he thought they were idiots if they did. It was childish.
He's childish. Or a hothead. Or both
Did you see the look on his face? It looked like he was legit pissed at those kids. I could see him losing an election because he flips out and punches an old lady on camera.
BFD. The kids were props and the masks were theater. Of all those on stage, only the few kids and maybe one adult were with masks. One student who ushured the Governor to the stage wasn’t masked and laughed and another immediately took his mask off then You Tube cut the video.

This whole mask thing is dumb. If people like the Governor don’t say it’s ridiculous who will? Oh, he didn’t call anybody idiots.
 
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BFD. The kids were props and the masks were theater. Of all those on stage, only the few kids and maybe one adult were with masks. One student who ushured the Governor to the stage wasn’t masked and laughed and another immediately took his mask off then You Tube cut the video.

This whole mask thing is dumb. If people like the Governor don’t say it’s ridiculous who will? Oh, he didn’t call anybody idiots.
You're an idiot.
 
@IU_Hickory

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We thought we knew a lot of things at the start of this pandemic about things you can do to prevent a viral outbreak. You know,

1) wash your hands
2) sanitize everything
3) stay 6 feet apart
4) wear some kind of mask

What we know now is that it doesn't spread by large respiratory droplets or even medium droplets. It spreads by aerosols, which are way, way WAY more finely dispersed, hang around in the air for more than 6 feet, stay there for many minutes (or longer), don't live very well on surfaces, likely even including dry hands, and aerosols are only filtered a little bit (but a non-zero amount) by cheap paper and cloth masks (unless they have filters and are like 3-ply or something).

So what we have learned (and nobody will listen) is that during a heavy outbreak,

1) when near others, everyone should wear fitted N95-quality masks, which are designed to impede aerosol transmission, That gives much more protection than anything.

Then, every one of those other things isn't bad, though they each only add a tiny bit of protection.

No N95s or the equivalent, you are left doing a bunch of little things that each only do a little bit of good. Your only real protection is to stay away from crowds and infected people. Though of course being young and in shape helps.

So.... if you have to do one thing (other than being young and in shape) as a sensible person, wear N95s. if you have to do one thing as a politician, make sure that federal resources are marshalled to manufacture and distribute ample N95s to everyone.

We certainly did neither.

Moreover, the pervasive anti-mask hysteria is going to cover up what we learned.

Some day SARS3 will come around and morons will shout "Ain't wearin' no mask, I got muh rights, I'll wash muh hands und take dem dewormers"
 
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