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Ha ha I don't know how we would set it up.

Do we freeze all bets and odds before the midterms or after a couple of primary debates? I would say after two initial debates.

It gives you a chance to see all the candidates including the dark horses but it's before the craziest part of the primary campaign.

It's pre-smear season so to speak.

As far as Pete, and he's my guy, I would have bet strongly that he doesn't even consider running until 28 and that would be only if it was an open primary. First off I gotta think he wants to see this infrastructure transformation through as obviously there's an incredible amount positive of political capital with this. Also he's got a lot of work to do for black trust. A lot, and stepping over someone like Harris isn't going to play well (especially for king maker Clyburn).

The SCOTUS fight could change all of that. One it could galvanize the party. Two it plays into his political strengths and support.
Pete is gay. Far left. Stayed home during a crisis virtue signaling. And his job is to spend money. A candidate with an IQ north of 70 could shred Pete. If Dems run a far left candidate Repubs have a great chance. DeSantis would make short work of Pete. If Dems find a moderate they will be in good shape. The country isn't going to suddenly forget their referendum on woke culture
 
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Yeah right. I'm not sure that's a bad thing tho. There's obviously a history of it and re con issues it is impt to get it right. More so than other areas
I didn’t read the whole opinion but I don’t see Alito explaining why it isn’t covered by the 14th amendment in terms of privacy. So you tell me, why doesn’t the 14th amendment cover the woman’s privacy in the first and maybe second trimester?
 
Do we freeze all bets and odds before the midterms or after a couple of primary debates? I would say after two initial debates.
Good question. i would say initial off after midterms with updates after every debate. As long as I don't have to do shit.

As far as Pete, and he's my guy, I would have bet strongly that he doesn't even consider running until 28 and that would be only if it was an open primary. First off I gotta think he wants to see this infrastructure transformation through as obviously there's an incredible amount positive of political capital with this. Also he's got a lot of work to do for black trust. A lot, and stepping over someone like Harris isn't going to play well (especially for king maker Clyburn).

I like Pete. He's got a great opportunity in his current position to grease all kinds of palms over the next year or so. Including the king makers.

Also, I'm not sure Clyburn is sold on Harris. I'd be more worried about Booker if I were Pete. I know he didn't do well during the 2020 cycle and I'm not really a fan either but he could move the needle in a Dem primary.
 
I didn’t read the whole opinion but I don’t see Alito explaining why it isn’t covered by the 14th amendment in terms of privacy. So you tell me, why doesn’t the 14th amendment cover the woman’s privacy in the first and maybe second trimester?

Bc the con says nothing about abortion and no right is implicitly protected by any con provision. That's all I can write for now. Champions....
 
Ha ha I don't know how we would set it up.

Do we freeze all bets and odds before the midterms or after a couple of primary debates? I would say after two initial debates.

It gives you a chance to see all the candidates including the dark horses but it's before the craziest part of the primary campaign.

It's pre-smear season so to speak.

As far as Pete, and he's my guy, I would have bet strongly that he doesn't even consider running until 28 and that would be only if it was an open primary. First off I gotta think he wants to see this infrastructure transformation through as obviously there's an incredible amount positive of political capital with this. Also he's got a lot of work to do for black trust. A lot, and stepping over someone like Harris isn't going to play well (especially for king maker Clyburn).

The SCOTUS fight could change all of that. One it could galvanize the party. Two it plays into his political strengths and support.
My guess is Pete's long term plan involves another bid for the WH in like 12 years at the soonest.
 
He asked for and took a benefit available to no one else in America on a salary of a quarter of a million per year during a crisis that falls under the authority of his agency. Sect of virtue signaling
Paternity leave? My last employer provided six weeks paid paternity leave.

I understand the second part of what you’re saying is the “bulk” of your argument. Made that pretty clear.
 
Paternity leave? My last employer provided six weeks paid paternity leave.

I understand the second part of what you’re saying is the “bulk” of your argument. Made that pretty clear.
Cool story. Has zero to do with Pete's circumstance
 
He asked for and took a benefit available to no one else in America on a salary of a quarter of a million per year during a crisis that falls under the authority of his agency. Sect of virtue signaling

He wouldn't be the first person to take advantage of a benefit that isn't available to everyone. I'm willing to bet that benefit existed for that position prior to Pete taking the job.

Has Pete ever took a stance against everyone having paid paternity leave?

I would wager that it is the GOP that is standing in the way of that. ;) But don't let that get in the way of a good rant, even one that only looks at a small part of the facts.
 
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What benefit did he take that no one else has?
Paid paternity. Earlier than fed ees. Had to specifically ask as a cab member. If you get it it's a perk. Only 5 states mandate. Fed GS ees get it after a certain period. A year I believe but it might be sliding. I don't remember
 
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He wouldn't be the first person to take advantage of a benefit that isn't available to everyone. I'm willing to bet that benefit existed for that position prior to Pete taking the job.

Has Pete ever took a stance against everyone having paid paternity leave?

I would wager that it is the GOP that is standing in the way of that. ;) But don't let that get in the way of a good rant, even one that only looks at a small part of the facts.

Good. Why should an employer pay for you to go have a baby
 
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Pete is gay. Far left. Stayed home during a crisis virtue signaling. And his job is to spend money. A candidate with an IQ north of 70 could shred Pete. If Dems run a far left candidate Repubs have a great chance. DeSantis would make short work of Pete. If Dems find a moderate they will be in good shape. The country isn't going to suddenly forget their referendum on woke culture
Ha ha I think your inner Brian Kilmeade is clouding your vision (wait for it at the end).



Pete has the democratic nuclear code...he's an extremely gifted communicator...Obama level communicator, he's calm and non-temperamental, highly empathetic (he got a huge support from the disabled community, simply because his policies prominently included them). He sees the game (and can communicate it) at a very high level. He won Iowa because he knew exactly where to put his resources and time.

So yeah...young, wicked smart, kind, multilingual, Afghanistan veteran, gay who's main right wing stink is he took leave to take care of his two newborns particularly one that had complications and....yeah I can work with that.

Especially when paid family leave is a huge recruiting carrot for business right now.

Per Lars, Cory Booker checks a lot of those boxes also. I think the only reason why he's not stronger is he came across as a little goofy...but he checks a lot of Dem boxes.
 
Ha ha I think your inner Brian Kilmeade is clouding your vision (wait for it at the end).



Pete has the democratic nuclear code...he's an extremely gifted communicator...Obama level communicator, he's calm and non-temperamental, highly empathetic (he got a huge support from the disabled community, simply because his policies prominently included them). He sees the game (and can communicate it) at a very high level. He won Iowa because he knew exactly where to put his resources and time.

So yeah...young, wicked smart, kind, multilingual, Afghanistan veteran, gay who's main right wing stink is he took leave to take care of his two newborns particularly one that had complications and....yeah I can work with that.

Especially when paid family leave is a huge recruiting carrot for business right now.

Per Lars, Cory Booker checks a lot of those boxes also. I think the only reason why he's not stronger is he came across as a little goofy...but he checks a lot of Dem boxes.
Shorter. Pete's politics, real and perceived, comport with the Squad. Far left. Does the country want a far left president?
 
Ha ha I think your inner Brian Kilmeade is clouding your vision (wait for it at the end).



Pete has the democratic nuclear code...he's an extremely gifted communicator...Obama level communicator, he's calm and non-temperamental, highly empathetic (he got a huge support from the disabled community, simply because his policies prominently included them). He sees the game (and can communicate it) at a very high level. He won Iowa because he knew exactly where to put his resources and time.

So yeah...young, wicked smart, kind, multilingual, Afghanistan veteran, gay who's main right wing stink is he took leave to take care of his two newborns particularly one that had complications and....yeah I can work with that.

Especially when paid family leave is a huge recruiting carrot for business right now.

Per Lars, Cory Booker checks a lot of those boxes also. I think the only reason why he's not stronger is he came across as a little goofy...but he checks a lot of Dem boxes.
Looking forward to a Presidential debate between Trump and Pete. Pete wearing his military uniform. Can’t wait to see the look on Trump’s face after he attacks Pete with some lying idiotic bullshit and Pete simply says, “Bite me.“
 
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I can’t wait for a Presidential debate between Trump and Pete. Can’t wait to see the look on Trump’s face after he attacks Pete with some lying idiotic bullshit and Pete simply says, “Bite me.“
I think it will be DeSantis. Fitting for our polar country
 
Shorter. Pete's politics, real and perceived, comport with the Squad. Far left. Does the country want a far left president?
Actually no and they hate him for it. Call him many names from a rat to a Manchurian candidate to a wall Street puppet.

Mainly because he believes in having both a private and public healthcare system (his dreaded Medicare for all who want it) which basically eliminates the Medicare age requirement while still allowing for people to keep their current healthcare set up. This was much more cost friendly, it still allows for universal healthcare like the rest of the major world countries have and it keeps a competitive nature between the public and private.... challenging both to keep improving and letting the market play out.

A sensible, common sense solution to a complicated issue that is decades behind in need.

Bernie Bros can't stand him because he basically ruined Warren's momentum (when she couldn't explain her numbers even though her campaign is 'I have a plan for that') and he came up with a harder healthcare solution to fight (as Obamacare was pretty easily argued against which was what Biden was pushing).

Anyway, the squad calls him Wall Street Pete.

Pete answers that by emphasizing what they agree on.
 
Bc the con says nothing about abortion and no right is implicitly protected by any con provision. That's all I can write for now. Champions....
You have to explain how it’s not included in the right to privacy which is explicitly enumerated. There are many rights that are not explicitly enumerated as such in the constitution.
 
Pete will never have a chance. You want to talk about galvanizing people. Guy is the epitome of gov garbage. Oh and he's gay. I would stump for Cori Bush as vp and AOC as pres over pete. Other than this board I don't know anyone who can tolerate Pete.
Well that's your opinion and its been noted... several times. And that's ok! Not everyone has to like everyone.

However Pete is well liked still to a degree. His popularity ratings are pretty much the same as Trumps( I know, I know).
 
Looking forward to a Presidential debate between Trump and Pete. Pete wearing his military uniform. Can’t wait to see the look on Trump’s face after he attacks Pete with some lying idiotic bullshit and Pete simply says, “Bite me.“
I think he would say something like 'if we were of the same age, we both wouldn't have served in Vietnam. I wouldn't because I simply would not be allowed back then. You didn't because you had a Dr on your father's payroll and you let someone else serve in your place.

I'm just glad that your bonespurs aren't acting up tonight'.

Lol
 
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Did you cut and paste this or make it up? Roe should be overturned as a matter of law. Then the states can start over and do anything they want. As it should be.
Even when the states go low and implement any and all means to limit access? I think there are instances where states need protection from their worst impulses. Especially in the current climate.
 
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Shorter. Pete's politics, real and perceived, comport with the Squad. Far left. Does the country want a far left president?
What you call far left is just the left. Yes, Bernie and the Squad are far left. Because of mainly of economic ideologies(if they even have a serious one). Most social issues are pretty standard left wing ideologies and have been for 40-50 years. Free education, healthcare, ETC. Those aren't far left if literally everyone on the left is in tune with them.

Economically speaking Pete and the squad are about as similar as the game of basketball and the game of Shoots and Ladders.
 
What you call far left is just the left. Yes, Bernie and the Squad are far left. Because of mainly of economic ideologies(if they even have a serious one). Most social issues are pretty standard left wing ideologies and have been for 40-50 years. Free education, healthcare, ETC. Those aren't far left if literally everyone on the left is in tune with them.

Economically speaking Pete and the squad are about as similar as the game of basketball and the game of Shoots and Ladders.

I have a feeling he thinks anyone left of his right = far left.
 
It's so hard when you're so dumb. Pete's politics, "REAL AND PERCEIVED," not as a gay guy staying home on paternity leave and talking about racist infrastructure how do you think he'll be PERCEIVED
Pete is hardly far left. You're ridiculous.
 
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Agree. The one institution in this land I thought we could depend on not to play politics was SCOTUS. Sotomayor is the suspect in this.

When the riots start will the rioters get put in solitary confinement for insurrection?
You wrote, "The one institution in this land I thought we could depend on not to play politics was SCOTUS." You must not read much history.

We don't even need to look far to rebut this point. Know who this is?
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Pete will never have a chance. You want to talk about galvanizing people. Guy is the epitome of gov garbage. Oh and he's gay. I would stump for Cori Bush as vp and AOC as pres over pete. Other than this board I don't know anyone who can tolerate Pete.
Well, there is that one other guy.......
 
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I have a feeling he thinks anyone left of his right = far left.
Right? It would be like me saying George Bush is extreme right wing. Or more apropos would be to say DeSantis is an extreme right winger.

Pete is in the Clinton, Obama, Biden camp. Pretty firmly. Its why the squad doesn't like him.
 
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You wrote, "The one institution in this land I thought we could depend on not to play politics was SCOTUS." You must not read much history.

We don't even need to look far to rebut this point. Know who this is?
roger-b-taney-21164235-1-402.jpg
Justice Taney.

Wrote Dred Scott.

Horrible but accurate statement of the pre-Civil War Constitution’s protections of slaves. As in “nada.” Solitified the Abolitionist and near-Abolitionist understanding that war and Constitutional amendment was the only way to rid the Union of slavery, because it meant there was no “Constitutional” way to keep slavery out of new territories or states.

But the Dred Scott decision was not a “political” decision in the way you posit.
 
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Leak or not they aren't going to change their stances that's why my money is on a leak from our side. Now I wish they hadn't done it because it's unethical at least and not supposed to happen but that's what I think happened. Its firing up Democrats and we needed to get fired up.
Unethical? Really?

I couldn't count all the trials and Supreme Court arguments I've read about in which a trial judge or Supreme Court justice makes gratuitous statements out loud that clearly tell the world which way he/she is leaning. I'll bet Alito himself already signaled his thoughts last year during arguments on this same case. What purpose do such statements serve other than to influence public opinion behind the immunity given to a judge? Judges already breach their secrecy when it suits them. They shouldn't be the only ones.

I agree with the other posters who object to the blatant lying about their biases that Supreme Court nominees spout in order to get confirmed. I would add more openness, not less.
 
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Justice Taney.

Wrote Dred Scott.

Horrible but accurate statement of the pre-Civil War Constitution’s protections of slaves. As in “nada.” Solitified the Abolitionist and near-Abolitionist understanding that war and Constitutional amendment was the only way to rid the Union of slavery, because it meant there was no “Constitutional” way to keep slavery out of new territories or states.

But the Dred Scott decision was not a “political” decision in the way you posit.
Stoll thanks you for answering his question. Now we'll never know his answer.

And the Dred Scott decision was as political as a ruling could get.
 
I didn’t read the whole opinion but I don’t see Alito explaining why it isn’t covered by the 14th amendment in terms of privacy. So you tell me, why doesn’t the 14th amendment cover the woman’s privacy in the first and maybe second trimester?

According to Alito, the right to privacy is bogus made up bullshit.
 
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