How can BK be so sure he wasn't at the party if Ford has been so unclear about the actual specifics of the party...except that he attacked her. I thought we have been told that there is NO way that ANYONE can have a clear memory of something that happened DECADES ago. NO WAY!
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How can BK be so sure he wasn't at the party if Ford has been so unclear about the actual specifics of the party...except that he attacked her. I thought we have been told that there is NO way that ANYONE can have a clear memory of something that happened DECADES ago. NO WAY!
I could be wrong, but I don't think he ever made a statement about being or not being at any particular party. The only official statement I've seen is his original one where he states he never engaged in the activity described.
I think the party attendance denial is inaccurate and has become truth by mere repetition. Sort of like how if we'd kept Roth we'd have been NCAA Champs.
You can remember not assaulting someone.
I attended a bunch of parties in my youth. While I cannot remember each and every party, where they were, who all was there, etc. I can unequivocally say that I never attended a party where I assaulted someone.
I believe Orrin Hatch said that to a reporter from a national TV station. Or did Hatch mishear Kavanaugh?
Do you not recognize that people can become intoxicated to the point that they don't remember certain actions? Heck, I've done it before.
These facts have been widely reported, but they undermine the narrative, so they're ignored.
And most women would remember, just as clearly, being assaulted.
At first, we were told that this story was B.S. because it was anonymous.
Then, it was too long ago, and no one can remember anything.
Now, he suddenly has a crystal clear memory.
As I said. DiFi controlls DiFi. She had no choice about the letter from the alleged victims agent. She had total control over her own decisions at the August call, when other Dems were in the loop, and also her decision about releasing the letter.
Orrin Hatch said that yesterday, but he could be having a senior moment considering he's about 142 years old.
And her decision to release the letter happened after it was clear the story was about to break. At that point, what difference did it make? I'm not a fan of hers, but she was in a bad place. If she had released the letter the day she received it, do you really believe Republicans would have a tremendously favorable view of her handling of the letter? I think we'd still be having this discussion.
Hatch is like a billion years old. I'm not sure Hatch saying that Kavanaugh said something ought be taken as gospel. Politicians are rambling old fools. Kavanaugh released an official statement and it didn't include anything about a particular party.
They are using feinsyein to distract from the allegations, which are extremely serious.
He's also a member of the judiciary committee. So basically, you are saying that you don't trust committee members of your own party to carry out their official duties?
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And Ford has yet to commit to testifying:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...nfirmed-shell-testify-at-monday-hearing?amp=1
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...nfirmed-shell-testify-at-monday-hearing?amp=1
I’m concerned about the confirmation process. The Dems made a mockery of the whole thing. I think, based on what we now know, there is a good chance that DiFi calculated this bombshell. At the very least, she should have immediately told the lawyer who wrote the letter to send a copy to the committee chair. instead she decided to make this charge a Democratic weapon instead of a bipartisan search for truth. This whole thing was more Democratic BS because they are consumed with a political SCOTUS.
Why is Chair Grassley going public with this? That's astonishingly unprofessional. Some of these characters are shameless.
First off, I don't really consider the Republican Party in its current form to be My Own Party, and I rarely, if ever, attempt to justify their actions. And this was my attitude before Trump. Just to be clear.
Do I trust Hatch? I don't know. But he's a politician and politicians say and do things for purposes that have nothing to do with the truth. Did Kavanaugh actually tell Hatch he wasn't "at that party." Seems unlikely, since the party has not been identified.
I stick by what I said. Hatch is a rambling political character spouting off whatever he thinks will help. Show me a quote where Kavanaugh talks about a particular party and his alleged attendance and then I'll listen.
And what if the lawyer refuses to send a copy to the chair? The client was wanting anonymity, what part of that sounds like sending it to a GOP committee chair is a good idea. Again, we would still be having this exact same debate. There is no scenario that doesn't lead us to right here.
Yeah, I do. I also know that I have a group of girl and guy friends that would have let me know if I ever did something so atrocious. So I can unequivocally state that I have never done that.
Do you not feel that you could do the same?
Kavanughs buddy was also knocked off his socks. I don't understand why this is so suprising to you.
No, that’s not the standard. If you’ll look at the stats, it very rarely happens that a woman wakes up the next day and claims she was raped. It’s much more likely that she WAS raped and does nothing about it, because she knows she was drunk, knows what will happen to her, etc. You keep focusing on these very rare cases and ignore the facts and statistics that show how rarely something liked this actually happens and how much more often a rape goes unreported.
He had a crystal clear memory from jump. "I never sexually assaulted anyone." That would be my crystal clear memory from jump if the accusation was thrown my way, because I have never sexually assaulted anyone. You could bring up any party you wanted to that I remembered or did not remember and I would still be able to tell you that I have never assaulted anyone.
He has lots of senior moments. He also says the woman is “mixed up” even though he has never met her.
The Democrats are playing with fire here. Republican turnout is currently at complacent levels:
A leaked survey conducted for the Republican National Committee (RNC) found that a majority of President Trump’s supporters don’t believe that Democrats have a chance to win back the House during November’s midterm elections.
That's obviously not the case with Democratic voters. I don't see how Republicans have anything but to gain from keeping the SC empty for the November election. If I were McConnell, I'd cleverly prolong the Senate vote on Kavanaugh till the lame duck session. And milk the proceedings for all their worth in terms of showing great respect for FOrd and her concerns.
Sure. But either way it's not a question that needs to be considered for any length of time, for most of us anyway. I'm not sure why an immediate and unequivocal denial points to guilt.
He's the Chair of an important Senate committee immersed in an extremely consequential SC justice confirmation process. He's not a Hollywood gossip queen. He's showing about as much respect for his office as Trump does for anything traditionally American.
I think it's fairly newsworthy since the entire process has been halted to schedule her testimony....and she's not yet even agreed to testify.
It doesn't. Just the opposite, that's what an innocent person should do. His credibility is dubious in this case because of the company he kept at the time. We'll have to see what he actually says on Monday. He's a proven liar so it won't be hard to see through his lies if he does it again.
Her lawyer immediately and publicly said she'll testify. He's not following Senate decorum talking about this in public. It's not newsworthy. She has plenty of time to accept it before Monday. He's politicking it and that's bullshit. Typical? Yes. Bullshit? Yes. We don't have to accept bullshit just because it's the norm.
It will be curious to hear how Kavanaugh responds. He probably thinks his easiest path is just to deny, deny, deny even if lots of folks conclude that’s somewhat implausible (i.e., they might conclude SOMETHING happened even if it didn’t remotely rise to the level of attempted rape). He’s probably right about that (regardless of what actually happened) but nobody can really know what might come out of a hearing.
Of course that might just be the truth.
I don’t think we’re capable of adult conversation about this, so maybe that deny, deny, deny approach really is the only one available if he wants to be confirmed.
The accuser will have to face questions though. Not to minimize her claim, but she wasn’t raped (fortunately) and she was able to escape (if that’s the appropriate term). Those two fortunate realities can also open up gray area around differing perceptions of what transpired. I’m not making value judgments here (at least not intentionally), but instead predicting where focus might go.
That won’t be pretty in all likelihood, though. Again, we’re not adults to deal with this sort of thing.
I disagree. If all that happens on Monday is she says, "He did it", and he says, "I didn't do it", absent of any other evidence, we are right back to here.
Like someone said earlier, this is not a criminal case, this is a job interview. There is no IUPG standard. It all comes down to, we have to hope, who was more believable. It would be a shame if it comes down to, "what will serve my political goals more?"
What would happen if he is seated on the SC, and 2 years down the line, hard evidence (not sure what) came up that he was in fact lying, and did do this? Would there be consequences? Would the Right say, "Well, punch your T.S. card...you should have proved it when you had the chance"?
On the news this morning I heard it was Hatch that said that after talking to Kavanaugh. They don't know if Kavanaugh really said that or Hatch just misspoke. If Kavanaugh really said that it would be bad for him since Ford says she could remember when or where the party was.
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